Mikeler's Multis

[mrc]

Have any of you noticed a lot of movement with the Micronite? The PPA does not move at all. I am about to start only using PPA becuase the movement is driving me crazy. Using Donnay XDUAL Gold 99 in 16x19 frame and my main string is MSV CO-FOCUS...

Thoughts? Why does the Micornite move all over the place on me?

[Ramon]

Originally Posted by mrc

Have any of you noticed a lot of movement with the Micronite? The PPA does not move at all. I am about to start only using PPA becuase the movement is driving me crazy. Using Donnay XDUAL Gold 99 in 16x19 frame and my main string is MSV CO-FOCUS...

Thoughts? Why does the Micornite move all over the place on me?

I use a Pro Kennex Ki 5x 16x20 100 sq in. On my racquet, both PPA and Discho Microfibre don't move much at all. PPA might be a little more resistant to movement due to its stiffness, but overall, both strings are very good at staying in place compared to most multis. Mikeler says he can't tell the difference between Microfibre and Micronite, so I'm making the assumption that they are the same.

If Micronite moves all over the place for you, maybe it's the tension. You might try going a little tighter.

[mikeler]

Microfibre moves more than PPA. PPA is rough which makes the strings lock in place better.

[Brocolt]

Mikeler. I would like to thank you for turning me onto the Discho multifibre My son and I both have been trying strings for a few years now and we both agree how much we like it.

My question is do you find the PPA to be very low powered and stiff almost closer to a poly than a multi ?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Brocolt

Mikeler. I would like to thank you for turning me onto the Discho multifibre My son and I both have been trying strings for a few years now and we both agree how much we like it.

My question is do you find the PPA to be very low powered and stiff almost closer to a poly than a multi ?

PPA is medium powered and feels nothing like a poly. I had no arm issues whatsoever with it.

[heartattack]

hi mikeler, do you have a playtest on micro fibre 16g.? i only saw 17g.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by heartattack

hi mikeler, do you have a playtest on micro fibre 16g.? i only saw 17g.

Goto post #1 of this thread. It is my number 1 ranked string.

[heartattack]

sorry i thought that was a micronite review. thanks.. youre using an open pattern 16x19 racquet. what can you say about a tight string pattern like 18x19 or 18x20?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by heartattack

sorry i thought that was a micronite review. thanks.. youre using an open pattern 16x19 racquet. what can you say about a tight string pattern like 18x19 or 18x20?

I think Micronite and Microfibre are the same string. The Exos I'm using are actually 16x18. I'm not a fan of 18 main rackets so I can't help you much there.

[heartattack]

thanks mikeler. i will try to put it on cross against black mamba on the main.

[sansaephanh]

Mikeler! hows it going buddy, in light of the RIP control price drop, would it still hold the same place in you reviews?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by sansaephanh

Mikeler! hows it going buddy, in light of the RIP control price drop, would it still hold the same place in you reviews?

RIP Control at least in the 16g is just not for me. It has some very big strengths but also very big weaknesses. Plus, it is a PITA for me to string up.

[heartattack]

hi mikeler. is 55lbs black mamba main and micro fibre cross are okay tension for 95sq.in. racquet? or 59 lbs? thanks in advance.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by heartattack

hi mikeler. is 55lbs black mamba main and micro fibre cross are okay tension for 95sq.in. racquet? or 59 lbs? thanks in advance.

Don't be fooled by my avatar. I have always used 98 inch rackets or higher. I have not tried Black Mamba either so it is hard for me to say.

[mikeler]

The Klip Legend I'm using is going to break soon. I put in a few string savers last night to prolong the life. RacquetTune shows less than 5% tension loss which is pretty darn impressive.

[Ramon]

Originally Posted by mikeler

The Klip Legend I'm using is going to break soon. I put in a few string savers last night to prolong the life. RacquetTune shows less than 5% tension loss which is pretty darn impressive.

You must have done a good job keeping your gut racquet at home when it's wet. Legend lost 18% tension on me, but I noticed that most of the loss happened after playing in damp conditions.

I'm surprised that it hasn't lasted longer. Maybe it's the EXO3 ports doing what they are supposed to do, which is allow the strings to move. There's probably more sawing action with those racquets.

[Ronaldo]

Originally Posted by mikeler

The Klip Legend I'm using is going to break soon. I put in a few string savers last night to prolong the life. RacquetTune shows less than 5% tension loss which is pretty darn impressive.

Is Legend worth the extra cost compared to your top multis?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Ramon

You must have done a good job keeping your gut racquet at home when it's wet. Legend lost 18% tension on me, but I noticed that most of the loss happened after playing in damp conditions.

I'm surprised that it hasn't lasted longer. Maybe it's the EXO3 ports doing what they are supposed to do, which is allow the strings to move. There's probably more sawing action with those racquets.

I have been keeping my rackets in the trunk as little as possible. Luckily, I have not encountered any wet courts...yet.

Every string moves like crazy on me in the Exo. Thank goodness I only have mild OCD. There are 3 severe notches where I put string savers. I think there is another intersection or two that I'll slip them in tonight.

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

Is Legend worth the extra cost compared to your top multis?

Not worth the extra cost or stringing effort IMHO. I hit with the Discho for a game this weekend and used Legend the rest of the time. I prefer the Discho but it was also strung 6 pounds lower. Considering how hard it is to get gut through the blocked holes of the Exo, I think the only gut I'll consider now is full Wilson gut again.

[Ramon]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

Is Legend worth the extra cost compared to your top multis?

I think it's going to depend on several factors including the type of game you play and the racquet you use. On my PK Ki 5x, Legend gave me 2-3 times the playable life of a durable multi like DM or PPA. I didn't notice a big difference in playability, so the durability was the primary advantage of natural gut. Lately, I've been breaking multis prematurely on shanks, and gut is better able to absorb that kind of abuse, so for me that's another advantage of gut. The main drawback for me is keeping gut away from moisture. I'm still using multis as a backup for that reason.

On Mikeler's EXO3 racquet, the strings have more movement. I think friction plays a bigger role in wearing down strings with those racquets. The EXO3's have a reputation for being hard on strings, and I think it may be that gut wears down faster on those racquets because of the friction.

Pacific Classic is softer than Klip Legend, but it's wearing down a bit faster for me. My game has changed and gotten more aggressive, so I'm going to say that I can't compare them on durability, but Classic has shown that it is strong enough to withstand my shanks, so I'm sticking with some kind of natural gut as my go to string for now.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Ramon

I think it's going to depend on several factors including the type of game you play and the racquet you use. On my PK Ki 5x, Legend gave me 2-3 times the playable life of a durable multi like DM or PPA. I didn't notice a big difference in playability, so the durability was the primary advantage of natural gut. Lately, I've been breaking multis prematurely on shanks, and gut is better able to absorb that kind of abuse, so for me that's another advantage of gut. The main drawback for me is keeping gut away from moisture. I'm still using multis as a backup for that reason.

On Mikeler's EXO3 racquet, the strings have more movement. I think friction plays a bigger role in wearing down strings with those racquets. The EXO3's have a reputation for being hard on strings, and I think it may be that gut wears down faster on those racquets because of the friction.

Pacific Classic is softer than Klip Legend, but it's wearing down a bit faster for me. My game has changed and gotten more aggressive, so I'm going to say that I can't compare them on durability, but Classic has shown that it is strong enough to withstand my shanks, so I'm sticking with some kind of natural gut as my go to string for now.

I did not get any extra time from Wilson gut in my PK 7Gs versus Discho or PPA so full beds of gut just don't make sense for my game. I'm guessing heavy spin just eats through gut too quickly.