PV Audio's Playtest Thread

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by mikeler

I'll never stray from 60!

Multis & gut, for sure!

Polys & poly hybrids... 45-52 is a comparable range coming from multi and/or gut at 60-62. This is at least what I've settled around with good results(dense pattern though). (aside from this month-old full Hyperion@57 job I'm currently grooving on... ugh... the string tests never end!!)

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by JT_2eighty

Multis & gut, for sure!

Polys & poly hybrids... 45-52 is a comparable range coming from multi and/or gut at 60-62. This is at least what I've settled around with good results(dense pattern though). (aside from this month-old full Hyperion@57 job I'm currently grooving on... ugh... the string tests never end!!)

True. I forgot about polys...

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

WeissCANNON Silverstring / PerforMAXX WhisperTouch Pro

Originally Posted by pvaudio

WeissCANNON Black5Edge / PerforMAXX WhisperTouch Pro

By the way, awesome pictures there.

[mikeler]

PV,

What do you use to take pictures?

[finalfantasy7]

PV

do you prefer having gut in the crosses over mains?

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by JT_2eighty

By the way, awesome pictures there.

Originally Posted by mikeler

PV,

What do you use to take pictures?

Although photography is a big hobby of mine, those were just taken with one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerSho.../dp/B0012YC7AE

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by finalfantasy7

PV

do you prefer having gut in the crosses over mains?

Crosses, no comparison.

[pvaudio]

WeissCANNON Silverstring / PerforMAXX WhisperTouch Pro





Stringing: The Silverstring is one of the easiest polys to string in the world. Nothing to report there. The WT Pro, however, is a pain to weave. It's not the weaving itself that's a problem, it's pulling the string through. Friction burn is a SERIOUS possibility. Strung 53/55, 10% prestretch on gut.

Groundstrokes: POWAAAAAAAH! Dropping the tension seems to really have opened up Silverstring after having only strung it at much higher tensions. The comfort was top notch. Spin was on par with B5E. But the amount of controllable power is astonishing compared to the B5E. 9/10

Serves: This is a very good setup for serve and volleyers. The action you can get on the ball is incredible, and with the flat power from the gut, you've got a pretty lethal combination. 9/10

Volleys: Here is where this setup shines. The feel at the net is remarkable. Silverstring gives you this crisp feedback whenever you hit a volley that makes any shot your opponent hits at you seem trivial. It's like it absorbs exactly the amount of pace and spin that's thrown at you, and lets you return it with exactly what you want. Touch shots are not as easy, but for a serve and volleyer, you cannot beat this. 10/10

Durability: We're talking about Silverstring. Next! The gut, not amazingly, is pretty frayed and starting to move about. Still, no signs of weakness or premature breakage here. The stringbed looks identical to the Scorpion one that I posted most recently. 10/10

This is actually incredibly academic using this string. Here we have the top 3 strings from WC, and they all perform incredibly well but in their own way. This is a setup for a serve and volleyer. While it is great off either wing, Silverstring is known to not be a huge spin producer. This reaffirms that. However, this is a far more powerful stringbed than the B5E, so if you are a flat hitter, then perhaps this is for you. I personally use a large amount of spin, but do like serve and volleying, so it's still a mixed bag for me.

Overall: 9.5/10

[pvaudio]

WeissCANNON Black5Edge / PerforMAXX WhisperTouch Pro





Stringing: I won't even bother talking about B5E since I've done it already. The black mains though show the light dusting that's on the string to make it easier to weave. You can see that on one of the mains in the close up picture above. Strung 53/55, 10% prestretch on gut.

Groundstrokes: B5E continues to prove itself as the baseliner's string. It does not have the power of Silverstring, but it does have far more spin potential. The only difference between this and the previous B5E/gut setup is that this has more power and a touch more comfort. Beyond that, you can't beat it. 10/10

Serves: The lower powered nature of B5E shows through on your serves. You do not get the amount of action that you expect even though it's incredible off the ground, nor do you get the power that you can from either of the other two WC strings I've been testing. Overall, same as always. 9/10

Volleys: Broken record time, again, nothing special to report here. The uncoated version of the gut doesn't really give you any extra benefit at the net. Perhaps in the mains it would be more noticeable, but it's a cross string here so it's just about the same. 9/10

Durability: Again, I'm just repeating myself. The lack of coating has shredded the gut to the point that the coated gut was at after a few sessions, and this was just some hitting and a 6-4 (WIN!!) set. 10/10

There's nothing here to say that I haven't already about B5E. If you're a baseliner, I can almost bet that this will be your go-to string if you lower the tension enough and cross it with a powerful enough string to give you the extra pop that you need. It's simply fantastic.

Overall: 9.5/10

[pvaudio]

This concludes my playtesting of WeissCANNON poly strings. We do not have a victor here, rather, it's a matter of personal choice. I choose Scorpion. I have a big serve, and I'll attack the net without hesitation if I get a good approach or floater. For me, it gives the overall best combination. The last frame I strung with it still hasn't broken and is still playing like a dream. It's no longer snapping back, but there is no dead feeling whatsoever: so while you may pay, it pays to use natural gut as a cross.

I sum up my WeissCANNON tests as this:

Baseliner: Black5Edge

Serve and Volleyer: Silverstring

All-courter: Scorpion


If you have not already tried PerforMAXX gut, seriously, just get a set. It's less than 25 bucks which is nearly half the price as VS and I'll say it: it plays just as good. It's easier to string and the coated version is simply a work of art. It's flawless. The uncoated version shows off the quality of the gut underneath, and while you may think it's actually a multi because it looks so uniform, you can unravel it as I found out today haha. Now to see what's next to playtest

[hoodjem]

I tried a hybrid of WC SS and X-1.

It was so soft that I could not believe it: it was too soft.

[pvaudio]

It didn't feel mushy at all, it's just got this unique feel that only Silverstring has. If anyone has never tried it in a full bed, I do recommend that as well

[dadozen]

PV, have you tried Performaxx in the mains? I'm wondering if it plays as good as VS when crossed with poly.

[JT_2eighty]

He did, a few pages back. Results not as good as poly/gut for his playstyle.

[dadozen]

Thanks JT, I'll look for it then

[pvaudio]

Yep! Both setups also broke prematurely, but I think that was due to the gut not being ready to be strung up yet since one broke after a few hits and one broke in my bag (which has never happened before).

[COPEY]

Hey pvaudio - great thread you got going here.

My curiosity is peaked with respect to PerforMaxx, but what exactly do you mean when you say "...I think that was due to the gut not being ready to be strung up yet..."?

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by COPEY

Hey pvaudio - great thread you got going here.

My curiosity is peaked with respect to PerforMaxx, but what exactly do you mean when you say "...I think that was due to the gut not being ready to be strung up yet..."?

None of the other sets that I'd tried had ever broken prematurely. I got the WT Pro via a special order I placed with the owner since they hadn't made WT in an uncoated form yet. After hearing and then seeing that the gut had broken prematurely, he thought that perhaps the gut was sent out when it still had too much moisture in it. Subsequently, the replacement set he sent turned out to feel entirely different in the hand (much stiffer), and so I'm betting that his guess was correct.

[pepka]

One final question. I know that Scorpion and B5E are both soft co-polys (You even said that B5E feels like a multi to some degree). Which one is more arm friendly? I used Scorpion and it's soooft, can B5E be even softer?

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by pepka

One final question. I know that Scorpion and B5E are both soft co-polys (You even said that B5E feels like a multi to some degree). Which one is more arm friendly? I used Scorpion and it's soooft, can B5E be even softer?

B5E is a bit lower powered than Scorpion. string it lower in tension and they are comparable in comfort but the softness is different. both are comfortable.