Kuerten with yt Radical MP

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by cnr1guy

vsbabolat- do you know what he's stringing his sticks with?

Luxilon ALU Power 1.25 according to the USRSA logs from the 2010 Sony Ericsson.

[Jonny S&V]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

I dont think so.......................

Seconded. That's a Head-shaped grip for sure (and I'm just looking at it).

[Mdubb23]

Originally Posted by BobFL

That butt-cap must be from the pro-room (no serial number). Also, the grip shape is certainly custom made for Guga. It is more wilson-ish rather than rectangular...

I don't agree. It looks pretty darn Head-like to me.

[big bang]

If its the stock radical why does it have a different buttcap? strange I would say..

[BobFL]

Originally Posted by big bang

If its the stock radical why does it have a different buttcap? strange I would say..

I was waiting for someone to bring this up Good job bb!

[Doubles]

Just curious, what's his grip size? Wasn't it like a 4 1/2 with just two over grips before? It looks like a 4 3/8 or so from those pics...

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by big bang

If its the stock radical why does it have a different buttcap? strange I would say..

That's because that is the butt-cap the pro's get from HEAD's pro room. It is the same as the YouTek butt-cap except the Pro's don't have the hologram over the trap door. The Pro's get a black sticker over the trap door.

[BobFL]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

That's because that is the butt-cap the pro's get from HEAD's pro room. It is the same as the YouTek butt-cap except the Pro's don't have the hologram over the trap door. The Pro's get a black sticker over the trap door.

No serial number. Why?

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by BobFL

No serial number. Why?

When you buy just a YT butt-caps there is no serial number either.


It is the same. Only difference is that the Pro's gett a black sticker with a silver ski tip logo that covers the trap door.

[BobFL]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

When you buy just a YT butt-caps there is no serial number either.


It is the same. Only difference is that the Pro's gett a black sticker with a silver ski tip logo that covers the trap door.

OK, I will try to formulate my question differently: Why does it have AFTERMARKET butt-cap if it is actually a retail frame? Why would they bother to replace them if they only want to inject silicone?

You know very well that the black label is there just because it is more convenient for customizers to do their job (inject silicone through little hole and put that black label over it).

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by BobFL

OK, I will try to formulate my question differently: Why does it have AFTERMARKET butt-cap if it is actually a retail frame? Why would they bother to replace them if they only want to inject silicone?

You know very well that the black label is there just because it is more convenient for customizers to do their job (inject silicone through little hole and put that black label over it).

I will state it again: Guga's racquet came from the Pro Room. That is how it comes from the pro room. TGK260.1 if that makes you feel better. I know the codes are very important to people around here. I just can't simply call it a YT Radical MP.

[dr325i]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

I will state it again: Guga's racquet came from the Pro Room. That is how it comes from the pro room. TGK260.1 if that makes you feel better. I know the codes are very important to people around here. I just can't simply call it a YT Radical MP.

That is because it is assumed to be in the Retail form then, which is not.
The TGK260.1 (Pro Stock) and the YT Rad MP Retail are not identical frames, in fact, very different.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by dr325i

That is because it is assumed to be in the Retail form then, which is not.
The TGK260.1 (Pro Stock) and the YT Rad MP Retail are not identical frames, in fact, very different.

You forgot to add that the code to the retail frame is TGK260.1. Not as different as you think. After all you have trouble feeling the difference bewteen TGK238.1 and TGK238.4.

Originally Posted by ninjatennis

dr325i - since you played with both the TGK238.1 (MG) and the TGK238.4 (YT), is there a difference between the two? the TGK's are supposedly not to have any microgel or youtek but just graphite and resin. therefore, besides the difference in paintjobs the tgk238.1 and tgk238.4 should be identical if they were customized and strung identically right?

Originally Posted by dr325i

Yes, I would think that there is no difference. I don't recall how the 238.1 played, but I believe it was the same...

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...42#post5020042
Don't take this the wrong way but anything you have to say about how a racquet plays. I take with a grain of salt and rely on my own personal experiences with the racquets.

[dgoran]

This thread is starting to take a different turn than what I had imagined.

Lets put to rest this tgk vs retail.
Its like conspiracy theory stuff I am sure that even if you remove a handle of a retail YT Radical and compare it to Guga's people would still not believe in fact I am not sure what would take one to believe.

Probably the only way to really know the difference is to compare angle of pre baked layers of sheets of raw graphite which is impossible for us to do here on TT thus this will never be resolved and I am sure even if Austrian factory worker provides us with step by step pictorial of the above process I am willing to bet a dollar that folks would still claim conspiracy.

In fact I was hoping for some more of the HI rez photo goodness that vs always magically pulls out of his hat. Anyone else has any large photos of this event or Goran Ivanisevic with YT radical MP.

[BobFL]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

I will state it again: Guga's racquet came from the Pro Room. That is how it comes from the pro room. TGK260.1 if that makes you feel better. I know the codes are very important to people around here. I just can't simply call it a YT Radical MP.

You finally managed to answer implicitly so the answer is: NO. Guga is not using a retail frame. Is not about what makes me feel batter it is about being accurate. Many people read this and I don't want them to think that they can buy Guga's racquet online because they cannot.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by dgoran

This thread is starting to take a different turn than what I had imagined.

Lets put to rest this tgk vs retail.
Its like conspiracy theory stuff I am sure that even if you remove a handle of a retail YT Radical and compare it to Guga's people would still not believe in fact I am not sure what would take one to believe.

Probably the only way to really know the difference is to compare angle of pre baked layers of sheets of raw graphite which is impossible for us to do here on TT thus this will never be resolved and I am sure even if Austrian factory worker provides us with step by step pictorial of the above process I am willing to bet a dollar that folks would still claim conspiracy.

In fact I was hoping for some more of the HI rez photo goodness that vs always magically pulls out of his hat. Anyone else has any large photos of this event or Goran Ivanisevic with YT radical MP.

Just so you know all of the Frames have a TGK number that includes retail and it is no coincidence that some of the codes match the retail.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by BobFL

You finally managed to answer implicitly so the answer is: NO. Guga is not using a retail frame. Is not about what makes me feel batter it is about being accurate. Many people read this and I don't want them to think that they can buy Guga's racquet online because they cannot.

Sure they can. They can go out and buy a YT Radical MP and if they know Guga's spec customize it to match his frame.

[BobFL]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Sure they can. They can go out and buy a YT Radical MP and if they know Guga's spec customize it to match his frame.

Textbook example of a fallacy. I am not sure you are aware of your words and their meaning...

[jmverdugo]

TGK260.1 is the code for the YT Radical MP racquet, it doesn't matter where you buy it or get it if you ask for for a YT Radical MP racquet you will get a racquet with a TGK260.1 code written some where and it always will have the same specifications unless you ask for customization. That is the whole point of the code, a code doesnt mean it comes from the pro room is just like a part number.

More simply put, if you buy a racquet from "The Pro Room" with the code TGK260.1 you will get a racquet with the same specifications of a retail YT Radical MP, because the TGK260.1 code is for the YT Radical MP regardless where you buy it.

[dgoran]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Just so you know all of the Frames have a TGK number that includes retail and it is no coincidence that some of the codes match the retail.

Oh I know I was posting with some irony since we have all seen this thread:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...stige+TGK+code

I definitely believe that in most cases (Custom one-off stick for certain pros do not apply) you can buy retail equivalent and modify it (if you know pro's exact specs) and you are good to go.

Performance on court with that stick MIGHT not translate to result but t least you can pretend hahaha

Also hope this closes but cap discussion:http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...5&postcount=49