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Old 02-26-2011, 01:11 AM   #1
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Hi every1,

I'm still looking for a college tennis team. Here is a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zANpOU1uvc
My playing level is like 400-500 german single ranking or 1/6 or 2/6 french classement.
Does some1 know something about Mount Olive college?

Thank you for your help, Edgar
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:57 AM   #2
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Mid DII school most likely
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:01 AM   #3
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hmm so nothing special there...

btw, I like ur profile pic
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:43 PM   #4
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:03 AM   #5
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You should check out Edinboro. New program with a coach that was posting on here looking for players. D-2, and I believe scholarship money is available.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:11 PM   #6
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Edgar, I coach tennis at Drew University in Madison, NJ. We are a strong academic and athletic program located near NYC. Your tennis level fits pretty close to the level of our team. We have several international as well as American tennis players on the team. If you would like more information check out www.drewrangers.com
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Just out of curiosity, how long has Drew University existed and what does it specialize in? How far is it from NYC and how do the academics and tennis team compare to NYU? Thanks
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Drew University has been around for well over 100 years. Its a small private liberal arts college located about 30 miles from NYC (although we do have a business program with internships available on Wall Street and the U.N.). It is a strong academic school although probably ranked below NYU. We play them during the regular season. They have a very good coach, but no wheres near the amount of court time that we have since we have 4 indoor courts right on campus and practice all of February in preparation for the season. If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
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It is a strong academic school although probably ranked below NYU.
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Well it depends on the source you look at. We were ranked 63 in the nation according to Forbes Magazine college rankings, which is significantly higher than NYU. But each ranking publication looks for something different. Here is the link:

http://bestcollegerankings.org/popul...lege-rankings/
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Based on tennisjon's statements the school seems to be very enticing. My only concern with the Drew University program is whether or not the school has enough funds to support the program. Also, does anybody know whether NYU has available indoor courts that can be used since it gets so cold during the winter?
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Drew University has a sports equity model. All sports are equally funded per player. Because of this in comparison to most other tennis programs at our level, we are funded more. As for NYU, they rent courts in Manhattan but only a few times a week. They had outdoor courts on top of a building, but they don't play there any more. All of their matches are played away from campus. They come to us each year. Last year, we barely lost, but we were without a couple of starters. This year, NYU should be stronger, but so are we.
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Does Drew give any scholarships or can the coach find a way to give merit scholarship? Geez...it sounds like NYU has very limited court time it would suck to have to practice outside during winter and fall.
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:22 PM   #14
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Is it really that competitive out there? I thought he'd make at least low DI or high DII, assuming he plays that way all the time.
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:20 AM   #15
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I coach at a D3 program. He probably wouldn't be top 2 on my team, but probably would be an impact player. We aren't currently ranked, but we have won our conference 10 straight years and go to nationals, where we made the 2nd round the past two times, losing to schools in the top 10 in the country.

We don't give athletic, but we give a ton of need and academic aid. Obviously, being D3, the aid part is separate from the athletic department, but if you qualify, school can be cheap. We have had players who paid less than $10,000 to go to school, but that is a rare exception. Typical packages are in the $10-25,000 range.

As for NYU, they practice indoors in the winter and play some of their "home" matches at the national tennis center. Other colleges use those as their home courts so we play matches there too.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:33 AM   #16
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Hi Jon,

thank you for your post. I wrote an e-mail to Jeff Brandes. If you want, I can send the exact e-mail to you.
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Well it depends on the source you look at. We were ranked 63 in the nation according to Forbes Magazine college rankings, which is significantly higher than NYU. But each ranking publication looks for something different. Here is the link:

http://bestcollegerankings.org/popul...lege-rankings/
LOL. nobody uses those rankings and they are biased towards smaller universities(Michigan, one of the top public schools at 92, behind drew? haha). us news is pretty accurate if op is interested.
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Sure, send me a copy of the email. tennisjon@yahoo.com

As for the rankings, the ones by Forbes look at different criteria. For example, they emphasize the average amount of debt kids graduate with and the employment rate upon graduation. These are important stats, but, of course, do not tell the entire story. All I was saying is that we are around the same level academically and tennis-wise. Is NYU ranked higher, yes, but many of our students cross-shop Drew and NYU for a reason.
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LOL. nobody uses those rankings and they are biased towards smaller universities(Michigan, one of the top public schools at 92, behind drew? haha). us news is pretty accurate if op is interested.
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As for the rankings, the ones by Forbes look at different criteria. For example, they emphasize the average amount of debt kids graduate with and the employment rate upon graduation. These are important stats, but, of course, do not tell the entire story. All I was saying is that we are around the same level academically and tennis-wise. Is NYU ranked higher, yes, but many of our students cross-shop Drew and NYU for a reason.
US News and World Report rankings are based on inputs (how big is the endowment fund per student, what is the faculty/student ratio, what percentage of applicants are selected, etc.) The assumption is that these will influence the educational outcomes.

Rankings like the Forbes rankings look more at outputs than inputs. Job placement, debt load at graduation are examples of outputs.

The US News approach is based on the idea that you cannot measure outputs very well so you have to measure inputs. Very questionable. Measuring inputs is rampant throughout American education, e.g. a certain state spends more per pupil on education so it must be better than another state. That is one of the reasons we have poor outcomes per dollar spent in K-12 education in this country: We measure inputs too much.

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As someone who works at NYU, I can tell you that they receive an insane amount of applications each year. And it seems that each year eclipses last year's.

As for the indoor/outdoor practice scenario, the above posts are correct. There used to be rooftop courts at their gym, but it's undergoing a "transformation". So they play at the USTA NTC, which a lot of other schools do too.

Here's a recent article, in case you're interested:
Men's tennis wins third straight, women still winlessby

Sanchay Jain
Published April 3, 2011

The NYU men's tennis team finally pulled even on the season (4-4) yesterday, defeating Wilkes University 8-1 for its third straight victory. The women, however, remained winless (0-7), falling to the Crusaders 8-1.

"I think we're getting some more balance in the line-up," head coach Horace Choy said of the men's team. "We're getting some strong play out of the back half of the line up, but in the beginning it was the top four singles players who were earning points. Now anyone can get a win, and it's showing."

In doubles play, seniors Raphael Namias and Alex Stoler won 8-6 at No. 2, and senior Matt Gross and freshman Bowen Xu won 8-4 at slot No. 3.

The Violet men also performed well in singles, sweeping Wilkes in all six matches. Freshman Daniel Penaranda, Tim Wu and Daniel Kil won their matches, as Penaranda won 6-1, 6-2, Wu cruised with a 6-1, 7-5 victory and Kil won 6-2, 6-1. Sophomore Connor Witty won 6-1, 6-3, while Bowen Wu prevailed with a 6-4, 6-4 win. Namias also took his singles match, 6-0, 6-1.

The women's team continued to struggle, as the Violets posted only three singles victories and lost all of their doubles matches.

In the No. 1 slot, senior Elizabeth Stachtiaris won her singles match 7-5, 6-2, and fellow senior Liz Feldman prevailed 3-6, 6-2, 6-4, at the No. 2 slot. Lisa Mijovic, also a senior, won her No. 3 match 6-3, 6-3.

But Feldman and Mijovic lost their doubles match by a score of 8-5 in the No. 1 slot, while freshman Ramya Pokala and senior Sara Joo lost 9-7 in second doubles. NYU also forfeited the No. 6 singles and No. 3 doubles matches against Wilkes because it had a shortage of players.

Both teams return to action this Wednesday, April 6, when they host the Stevens Institute of Technology at the National Tennis Center in Flushing, N.Y. First serve is set for 3:30 p.m.

A version of this article appeared in the Monday, April 4 print edition. Sanchay Jain is a staff writer. Email him at sports@nyunews.com.
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