Is it cruel to boil lobsters alive?

[Steady Eddy]

Is it cruel to boil lobsters alive?

[Cooper_Tecnifibre4]

Yes.

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[accidental]

probably. Someone will post lobster sashimi in this thread i just know it

[Bartelby]

I think you're supposed to chill them, skewer and then boil so yes it's inhumane.

[Bartelby]

... that means your poll options are too limited.

[juanparty]

Definitely not! i think they like it!! Imagine you are boiling alive, what a nice experience, good way to die.


im sure they enjoy.

[Steady Eddy]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

I think you're supposed to chill them, skewer and then boil so yes it's inhumane.

So why isn't the 1st choice good enough?

[Kobble]

I love lobster, but I find it cruel. I haven't eaten lobster in a while. You can always buy the raw tails and stuff and cook them.

[PCXL-Fan]

Yes. Though I inject them inject them with 80-110ml of morphine. Then read them passages from the bible as I turn up the heat.
Plus I only eat the bad ones who deserved it.

[Bartelby]

The chill sends them to sleep so you can kill them humanely with a needle and then cook immediately, so you can boil them and eat them if prepared humanely and that's not what option 1 states - 'and don't eat lobster'.

Originally Posted by Steady Eddy

So why isn't the 1st choice good enough?

[jmverdugo]

I think it is cruel, I can't tell how the lobster feels and it can't tell us either but I have heard that it doesn't make any difference in taste if you kill it just before you put it in the boiling water so maybe doing that is a good idea. Same thing with the earth turtles, in some countries they cook it the same way, put them alive in boling water, but in this case the animal does scream and you can hear it is in pain, it is really sad to watch.

I also heard that there is another way to kill them that is put them while the water is just warm and increase the temperature little by little this way the animal doesn't even realized it is being boiled.

In the end these are just ways to ease our concience and make us feel like we are good people. I beleive for animal is the same, the result is the same, it is going to be death anyway.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by PCXL-Fan

Yes. Though I inject them inject them with 80-110ml of morphine. Then read them passages from the bible as I turn up the heat.
Plus I only eat the bad ones who deserved it.

I love some of your posts. However, seriously, it may be a rather good idea to read passages of the Bible to an animal before killing it, and before injecting them with morphine (i presume they won't be conscious when you read the Bible to them after morphine). I would also recommend playing it Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor just in case it does not have religious inclinations.

If you must kill anyone, human, animal, insect etc, let it be an instant painless death, and not a slow lingering or painful one.

[rommil]

Just read to the lobster any post by suresh and the lobster will be begging to jump into the boiling water.

[Caloi]

Lobsters do not feel pain:

A recent scientific report from Norway has added fuel to this long-simmering debate. The study, funded by the Norwegian government, finds that animals like lobsters have nervous systems that are too simple to process what we call "pain."

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/PainMan...=722163&page=1


This debate has been brought up in regards to people that practice catch and release fishing (mainly fly fishing). Their nervous systems are not complex enough to feel what we consider pain.

Don't let the bleeding hearts take away your enjoyment of a freshly boiled lobster.

[10ACE]

In another universe- Lobsters are boiling humans, wondering the same thing.

I mean some chop the line down their "heads" and I do not see steaming them to be a better option- I think lobster is right behind stone crab when it comes to seafood- MMMMM MMMMM good!

[ollinger]

I'd also be surprised if they felt pain, certainly not pain caused by heat. Lobsters evolved in the ocean which is a relatively stable temperature environment, so they wouldn't need to evolve receptors for heat discomfort, of the type we have in our dermal layers.

[origmarm]

This has been done to death in the foodie vs animal rights discussions for a while now. It's generally accepted that:

- They die instantly on immersion from shock
- If they are cold enough first they are asleep before they die instantly
- Their nervous system contains no identifiable pain receptors, similar to mainy other crustaceans

So they probably don't even know what's happened.

That said it's still debateable just from an ethical standpoint whether you should throw them into boiling water alive, or eat them at all for that matter but it's generally accepted as just that, an ethical, philosophical discussion.

Off for my lobster lunch now...

Orig

[Manus Domini]

Would you want to be boiled alive?

[chrischris]

Originally Posted by Steady Eddy

Is it cruel to boil lobsters alive?

No its not.
Why ? Coz doing it after you are dead isnt an option.

[ollinger]

The analogy escapes me....I have pain receptors. Perhaps the only ethical solution is to annhilate all life on earth, as the planet is filled with predators, and killing everyone in one step would eliminated the daily cycle of cruelty wherein most creatures eat their pray while it's still alive. What say you, Saint Manus?