Has anyone on the board learned to hit 130mph serves? - Page 5

NinjaKiwi · 03-21-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBad

You're 5'11" at most and your serve is no more than 70mph (5'9" and 60mph, respectively, in Florida/SoCal).

I think I could come up with the formula for your analysis. Please correct me if I am wrong. PS. What's your speed?

5"11 --> 70mph
5"10 --> 65mph
5"9 --> 60mph
5"8 --> 55mph
5"7 --> 50mph
5"6 --> 45mph (My speed)
5"5 --> 40mph
5"4 --> 35mph
5"3 --> 30mph
5"2 --> 25 mph
5"1 --> 20 mph
5"0 --> 15 mph

So, 15(1+5X)= per inch

tennisnoob3 · 03-21-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaKiwi

I think I could come up with the formula for your analysis. Please correct me if I am wrong. PS. What's your speed?

5"11 --> 70mph
5"10 --> 65mph
5"9 --> 60mph
5"8 --> 55mph
5"7 --> 50mph
5"6 --> 45mph (My speed)
5"5 --> 40mph
5"4 --> 35mph
5"3 --> 30mph
5"2 --> 25 mph
5"1 --> 20 mph
5"0 --> 15 mph

So, 15(1+5X)= per inch

he was joking. the idea is that florida/so cal are so insanely "superior" that everything is elevated there and therefore everywhere else is inferior and less than actual value. ex a 4.0 in ny would barely be a 3.0 in florida.

gameboy · 03-21-2011, 07:31 PM

If hitting 130 mph serve was all about technique then every pro on the tour/challenger/college would be hitting it.

It would be like how everybody can hit 300 yard drives in golf and throw 95 mph fastball in baseball.

Somethings are not about technique but about god given talent. You need gobs and gobs of fast, twitchy muscles, with effecient skeleton structure. Not everybody has it.

Shooting for 100mph+ is a good goal to have. Shooting for 130 mph is quixotic for 99.9% of the people out there, no matter how good your technique is.

SoBad · 03-21-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaKiwi

I think I could come up with the formula for your analysis. Please correct me if I am wrong. PS. What's your speed?

5"11 --> 70mph
5"10 --> 65mph
5"9 --> 60mph
5"8 --> 55mph
5"7 --> 50mph
5"6 --> 45mph (My speed)
5"5 --> 40mph
5"4 --> 35mph
5"3 --> 30mph
5"2 --> 25 mph
5"1 --> 20 mph
5"0 --> 15 mph

So, 15(1+5X)= per inch

Your linear regression analysis technique is nothing short of perfection. It's kind of sad that someone 4'8" tall serves at -5mph, but that's the reality.

Larrysümmers · 03-21-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBad

Your linear regression analysis technique is nothing short of perfection. It's kind of sad that someone 4'8" tall serves at -5mph, but that's the reality.

poor fella. his serve goes backwards. lucky for me, i am 7 foot 6

RoddickAce · 03-21-2011, 08:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZod9KZmtuM

This is my newest serve video. I have been clocked at 104mph at the Rogers Cup before, with a horrible racquet and no warm-up. So my estimate is that my fastest serves are around 110mph and average around 90-105 mph on first serves.

From what I've seen, serves that are 120mph+ have this different sound and the player seems very stable AND loose at the same time.

SoBad · 03-21-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Larrysümmers

poor fella. his serve goes backwards. lucky for me, i am 7 foot 6

165mph is decent only if you can place it well with tons of spin. Otherwise the returner will take it early, use the pace against you, and hit an easy return winner every time, especially in Florida.

cdubdub · 03-21-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RoddickAce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZod9KZmtuM

From what I've seen, serves that are 120mph+ have this different sound and the player seems very stable AND loose at the same time.

+1 this. watching my single #1 player and his opponents hit serves, i can tell when its 120 or more because of the sound it makes. i also note the fuzz coming off the ball once they hit the return off of these serves.

tennis_balla · 03-21-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dozu

yo balla, stop it... he is my friend.

Yes Ma'am!

kiteboard · 03-21-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdubdub

ive been able to hit multiple 110-115 mph serves, but 130? no wayy. im 6 ft and only weigh 145. my motion definitely has a few flaws, as well. heres a video from october..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fursMw9G1S8

Try bending backwards, with your chest towards the back fence, bent over at the waist.

dr325i · 03-21-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cdubdub

ive been able to hit multiple 110-115 mph serves, but 130? no wayy. im 6 ft and only weigh 145. my motion definitely has a few flaws, as well. heres a video from october..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fursMw9G1S8

The form shown here is FAR, FAR from 130 or 120 or much slower I'd say...

kiteboard · 03-21-2011, 10:29 PM

Looks like about 90mph. Nice touch, using a generator to run the camera.

kiteboard · 03-21-2011, 10:30 PM

Looks like about 90mph. Nice touch, using a generator to run the camera. Only one guy posting claims a believable 130, and that's for his son, who may be Ryan Harrison for all we know.

LeeD · 03-22-2011, 09:48 AM

That cdub vid shows a 85 mph max serve. Barely reachs backboard, on a warm night. Finish is wrong side of body, no swingspeed.
Sure, my first flats start to drop right past the baseline, but it doesn't drop down to bottom of backboard, instead staying waist high at impact. And I serve in 57 degree weather, when most of you guys need sweatshirts and pants to play. And I use DunlopGPHD balls, the heaviest and knappiest for concrete courts.

mightyrick · 03-22-2011, 10:00 AM

I'm with kiteboard. Looks like about 90mph. 95mph tops on one of those, maybe.

Maybe it was the angle of the video, but it seemed to me that OP is holding with a more extreme grip and hitting that serve with a tad bit of slice... which is going to slow the ball down a little bit.

Holding the racquet in a little more eastern direction (pure conti) will probably add 10mph easily onto that serve. I thought the motion was really good.

LeeD · 03-22-2011, 10:05 AM

Motion is OK, with finish on wrong side, no movement into court, tentative swing.
Notice ball is dropping heavily when it reaches backboard. That on a warm night. Now if OP used flat balls, that MIGHT happen, but most guys with serves using flat balls can still make it go horizontal much more at the backboard.

SuperDuy · 03-22-2011, 10:36 AM

What would yall estimate my serve to be?

LeeD · 03-22-2011, 10:47 AM

Don't know how to search your serve motion, but if I recall correctly, you have a basically good motion, fast arm speed, but not too much body into court, don't always swing fast enough for a truly fast serve, and tend to get lazy on some of your serves, so it's hard to tell which ones are your normal serves, and which are your fast serves. Also, you tend to spin most of your serves, whether some have more spin or not, still spun.
Try hitting a few when warmed up, see how the flats bounce, tell us temps and balls used, court fast (skids ball low) or abrasive (impressively I often bounce first flats up around upper chest high), and time of day.
Also, when there are tennis players around, you practicing serves, do they tend to stop play and watch you? Or do they gather around your court and watch you serve?
They almost always do when I hit my faster serves, because they can hear it from 4 courts away, and wonder why someone can pop it that loud....compared even to 4.5 level adjoining courts.

LeeD · 03-22-2011, 10:51 AM

Oh, and I still claim "110 to 115" mph on my best first flats.
That's not fast enough to bother anyone USED to seeing and returning my serves. Not at my level, anyways.

FedererBestTennis · 03-22-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisnoob3

too bad it isnt true.

Last summer, I was clocked at 94 mph and my coach said my serves have got 4-5 mph more on them. You don't have to be such a jerk.

03-21-2011, 08:04 PM	#86
RoddickAce Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,166	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZod9KZmtuM This is my newest serve video. I have been clocked at 104mph at the Rogers Cup before, with a horrible racquet and no warm-up. So my estimate is that my fastest serves are around 110mph and average around 90-105 mph on first serves. From what I've seen, serves that are 120mph+ have this different sound and the player seems very stable AND loose at the same time. __________________ Jumping one-handed topspin backhand drive volley short angle cross court passing shot on the run-->One of the longest names for a tennis shot Last edited by RoddickAce : 03-21-2011 at 08:06 PM.

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