Do multi's have more control then natural gut?

[newyorkstadium]

Looking at TWU, multi's have more spin, less power and higher stiffness. The same is true for syn gut.

All these attributes are related to control.

I know Natural gut has more feel and touch. That may be related to control, although I haven't researched it.

[mikeler]

It all depends on tension really. In general, gut has more power and spin while multis have more control.

[Ramon]

Multis generally don't have more spin than gut. Some have about as much spin as gut and most have less. The feel and touch of gut definitely adds to the control. I was surprised by the advantage in durability gut has over synthetic multis. For me, that makes up for the price difference.

[NLBwell]

Gut is naturally more powerful than multis and so must be strung at a higher tension to get the same control. If you get the tension right, you should be able to get more power and spin with the same control.

[Rabbit]

I think the biggest difference between gut and mutli is their lifespan. While you can look at the numbers and make an initial deduction, once you start using a multi, it degrades in performance much more than a good natural gut. In summary, versus a high end multi, natural gut is often a less expensive option given its long play life.

[netguy]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

I think the biggest difference between gut and mutli is their lifespan. While you can look at the numbers and make an initial deduction, once you start using a multi, it degrades in performance much more than a good natural gut. In summary, versus a high end multi, natural gut is often a less expensive option given its long play life.

I agree with this one, the price/performance of a gut is better in the long run...
I can get good control for about 7- 8 hours in a multi ($15) and I'm done with it, however using a gut ($30) I get 25 plus hours. The price difference is for a reason.

[Readers]

No, I found gut has more control than most multi.

[Veninga]

if gut has more power and just a bit less control, why are we paying so much for multi's? even comfort is the same.

what is the main reason?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Veninga

if gut has more power and just a bit less control, why are we paying so much for multi's? even comfort is the same.

what is the main reason?

Gut costs a lot of money.

[netguy]

Originally Posted by mikeler

Gut costs a lot of money.

I desagree.
In the long run, guts has better price/performance than multis when you compare a $30 or so gut with a $15 or so multi. The price difference is for a reason.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by netguy

I desagree.
In the long run, guts has better price/performance than multis you compare you compare a $30 or so gut with a $15 or so multi. The price difference is for a reason.

My current multi costs just over $8/set when I buy it in the reel form. Since I typically break gut as quickly as multis, I don't see the advantage. Gut is also harder for me to string up.

[BlxTennis]

Originally Posted by netguy

I desagree.
In the long run, guts has better price/performance than multis you compare you compare a $30 or so gut with a $15 or so multi. The price difference is for a reason.

I agreed. I started by trying over at least 15 types of Multi and they cost somewhere $10 - $18 a set. Multi lasts me about 2 weeks if I play twice a week for 2hrs - 3hrs each time. However, the same 1/2 set of gut(supra) lasts me for 4 months and counting. I am sticking with natural gut instead of multi for economic, comfort and feel reason.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by mikeler

My current multi costs just over $8/set when I buy it in the reel form. Since I typically break gut as quickly as multis, I don't see the advantage. Gut is also harder for me to string up.

What multi are you using?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

What multi are you using?

Discho Microfibre 16

[netguy]

Originally Posted by mikeler

My current multi costs just over $8/set when I buy it in the reel form. Since I typically break gut as quickly as multis, I don't see the advantage. Gut is also harder for me to string up.

Hard to believe. You are the first person who I've seen who reports this....Only VS ($43 a set) could breaks as fast as a multi does..... However, as I said before, $30 guts like Pacific Classic (I heard the same from Babolat Tonic $32) have way more playability duration (over 25 hours) than any multi (8 hours) I have playtested in the past, making the switch for me a no brainer.

I understand you are a full bed multi string advocate as I was in the past, but I'm happy not to be anymore....After tons of playtesting, silverstring/classic, classic/silverstring, silverstring/power fiber or full bed classic is the way to go for me.

[Rabbit]

Originally Posted by netguy

Hard to believe. You are the first person who I've seen who reports this....Only VS ($43 a set) could breaks as fast as a multi does..... However, as I said before, $30 guts like Pacific Classic (I heard the same from Babolat Tonic $32) have way more playability duration (over 25 hours) than any multi (8 hours) I have playtested in the past, making the switch for me a no brainer.

I understand you are a full bed multi string advocate as I was in the past, but I'm happy not to be anymore....After tons of playtesting, silverstring/classic, classic/silverstring, silverstring/power fiber or full bed classic is the way to go for me.

Just to add, if you're seriously frugal, string savers will extend the life of natural gut as well by a considerable amount. You just have to pay attention to your stringbed.

[JT_2eighty]

I think Mikeler is playing mostly on har-tru, which also takes a toll on gut & durability.

For the majority of those that play on hard courts, that aren't string breakers, and that want either a multi or gut due to arm health; then yes, I agree they should be using Pacific gut. It is more durable than Babolat gut, it is playable until it breaks, and price/performance per hour, it will be more economical than any multi. (again, only if you don't break strings fast, and are trying to choose between a multi or gut).

Honestly I get better control with gut over multi. Gut has reliable, consistent playability over time. Multi degrades and changes in playability, then breaks. Multi thus requires more restringing to maintain consistent playability. Gut plays soft at high tensions, so you can tension wherever you need it (60+ lbs) to maintain the control you want. Gut is a win-win (unless you play a lot on clay, or break it in under 10 hours, etc). Pacific classic 16 at $30 is a great deal, and Pacific Tough 16 at $38 is the best durability gut you can find.

[robbo1970]

What's the general view on Dunlop Silk?

I've never broken a string before, so wouldn't consider myself a hard hitting string breaker.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by JT_2eighty

I think Mikeler is playing mostly on har-tru, which also takes a toll on gut & durability.

For the majority of those that play on hard courts, that aren't string breakers, and that want either a multi or gut due to arm health; then yes, I agree they should be using Pacific gut. It is more durable than Babolat gut, it is playable until it breaks, and price/performance per hour, it will be more economical than any multi. (again, only if you don't break strings fast, and are trying to choose between a multi or gut).

Honestly I get better control with gut over multi. Gut has reliable, consistent playability over time. Multi degrades and changes in playability, then breaks. Multi thus requires more restringing to maintain consistent playability. Gut plays soft at high tensions, so you can tension wherever you need it (60+ lbs) to maintain the control you want. Gut is a win-win (unless you play a lot on clay, or break it in under 10 hours, etc). Pacific classic 16 at $30 is a great deal, and Pacific Tough 16 at $38 is the best durability gut you can find.

I do play almost exclusively on Har-Tru. Wilson gut lasted me about 10-12 hours of match play the one time I used it this year when I was using the PK 7G. Contrast that with Discho Microfibre in the same frame. The only time I broke DM was about 10 hours in on a shank. Every other time I've cut it out.

I've got Klip Legend full bed in one of my Exos [16 x 18] right now. After 2 sets, it looks pretty beat up. My Discho still looks good after about 6 hours of match play on it. Maybe it is the perfect string for me or the combination of my game and the surface, but I don't play any better with the Klip. So I'm not going to pay more and take more time to string with gut if it does not even last as long.

Originally Posted by robbo1970

What's the general view on Dunlop Silk?

I've never broken a string before, so wouldn't consider myself a hard hitting string breaker.

Just my opinion after a few minutes of hitting with Silk, but it felt stiff and did not have any redeeming qualities that I could see.

[netguy]

Originally Posted by JT_2eighty

I think Mikeler is playing mostly on har-tru, which also takes a toll on gut & durability.

For the majority of those that play on hard courts, that aren't string breakers, and that want either a multi or gut due to arm health; then yes, I agree they should be using Pacific gut. It is more durable than Babolat gut, it is playable until it breaks, and price/performance per hour, it will be more economical than any multi. (again, only if you don't break strings fast, and are trying to choose between a multi or gut).

Honestly I get better control with gut over multi. Gut has reliable, consistent playability over time. Multi degrades and changes in playability, then breaks. Multi thus requires more restringing to maintain consistent playability. Gut plays soft at high tensions, so you can tension wherever you need it (60+ lbs) to maintain the control you want. Gut is a win-win (unless you play a lot on clay, or break it in under 10 hours, etc). Pacific classic 16 at $30 is a great deal, and Pacific Tough 16 at $38 is the best durability gut you can find.

Exactly! The same experience here.... You couldn't put it more clearly! Your last paragraph says it all.