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Old 10-12-2011, 12:29 AM   #1
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Default Disagreement how score is said by receiver/returner?

Scenario:

Four points have been played in the first game of the match
The Server won 1 point
The Returner won 3 points

How would the Server say the score?
How would Returner say the score?
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:37 AM   #2
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15-40
15-40

Is this a trick question? If I got it wrong, my excuse is I have't had my coffee yet--uh, no, it was the wind,...
uh, the sun was in my eyes,...

I reserve the right to change my answer after I'm fully awake, I think this is a trick question...I want to see the Shot-Spot Replay...I'm filing an official protest...I'm changing my answer...40-15, 15-40...I can't remember...I WANT MY MOMMY!
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:57 AM   #3
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Server's score comes first no matter who is saying it.

The only time it gets confusing is during a changeover and someone verifies the number of games won so far in the set. The previous game has ended and the next hasn't begun, so who comes first? I usually say "it will be 3 serving 2" or whatever to be clear as to who has 3 games and who has 2.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:42 AM   #4
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If people aren't sure, I always point to the person whose score I'm saying. So if I were the returner, I would point to the server and say 15, then point to me and say 40.

Sometimes it's the easiest way to stop the madness.

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Old 10-12-2011, 06:46 AM   #5
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Server's score comes first no matter who is saying it.

The only time it gets confusing is during a changeover and someone verifies the number of games won so far in the set. The previous game has ended and the next hasn't begun, so who comes first? I usually say "it will be 3 serving 2" or whatever to be clear as to who has 3 games and who has 2.
This is how I do it. Sometimes I'll say 15 serving 40 also just to make things extra clear (if necessary).
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:52 AM   #6
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I have always played (and heard) that the server's score comes first....So...
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So you're playing with an EXO3 tour and have another racquet strung with natty gut and you don't know that the server's score is always called out first?
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Server: "F'ing double-break point"
Returner: "Double-break point"
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So you're playing with an EXO3 tour and have another racquet strung with natty gut and you don't know that the server's score is always called out first?
I played I guy who kept saying his score first no matter what. Anyone have a section or link to the USTA rules so I can show him next time I see him that it's customary to always say the server's score first?
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I played I guy who kept saying his score first no matter what. Anyone have a section or link to the USTA rules so I can show him next time I see him that it's customary to always say the server's score first?
http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/USTA...c_13_16051.pdf

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... I always thought you said your score first. So,

Server: 15-40
Returner: 40-15

If I play this sport for another 5 years I might just learn some of the rules.
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:15 AM   #12
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... I always thought you said your score first. So,

Server: 15-40
Returner: 40-15

If I play this sport for another 5 years I might just learn some of the rules.
You never watch a match on tv? Just once doing that would show you that the servers score is ALWAYS said first.
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:22 AM   #13
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... I always thought you said your score first. So,

Server: 15-40
Returner: 40-15

If I play this sport for another 5 years I might just learn some of the rules.
That would be way too confusing. As the rule says, the server's score first.

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... I always thought you said your score first. So,

Server: 15-40
Returner: 40-15

If I play this sport for another 5 years I might just learn some of the rules.
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You never watch a match on tv? Just once doing that would show you that the servers score is ALWAYS said first.
Watching a match on TV wouldn't help someone who learned to announce the score incorrectly. The players do not announce their score on TV. The announcers or umpire will announce the score.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:08 PM   #15
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It happened to me once. Well, what can I say?! Only complete %#^^&#%@@& can call the score from "their perspective". That was his official explanation in my case ("I'm calling the score from my perspective"). So, I serve and he calls "ad out" which actually was game point for me. How idiotic is that?
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:12 PM   #16
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I played I guy who kept saying his score first no matter what. Anyone have a section or link to the USTA rules so I can show him next time I see him that it's customary to always say the server's score first?
Why would the returner ever be saying the score anyway?
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Watching a match on TV wouldn't help someone who learned to announce the score incorrectly. The players do not announce their score on TV. The announcers or umpire will announce the score.


So hearing the servers score said first every single time by the announcer would just come across as a coincidence then?
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Why would the returner ever be saying the score anyway?
it happens quite often in USTA junior tournaments, especially in the 12s/14s. "what's the score?"
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:14 PM   #19
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So hearing the servers score said first every single time by the announcer would just come across as a coincidence then?
Nope.

If "Joe" incorrectly thinks that the score should be called from one's perspective when playing, then hearing an announcer announce the score as opposed to the players announcing the score will not necessarily teach Joe to call out the score correctly.

Joe may conclude that a third party always calls out the servers score first and can incorrectly continue to think that a player calls out the scores from his perspective.

Therefore, the best way to inform Joe of the correct way to call out the score is to point Joe to the rules as opposed to telling Joe to watch a match on TV. Simple, no biggie.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:39 PM   #20
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Really ... 19 replies to say always call the severs score first.
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