Will Federer End 2011 as No. 4? - Page 2

AM95 · 11-13-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3kk

Wait...doesn't Federer have to defend his points there? I mean, he won last year, so he can only go down, right? Do WTF points get added on or something? O_O

yea does he have to go undefeated to not lose any points (because last year he got a 500 point bonus since he didn't lose a single match)?

Starfury · 11-13-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AM95

yea does he have to go undefeated to not lose any points (because last year he got a 500 point bonus since he didn't lose a single match)?

WTF points:
200 per round robin win (so up to 600 for the RR)
400 for semifinal win
500 for final win

So depending on how he does in the RR, the WTF champion can get 1100, 1300 or 1500 points.

11-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Ah, I see now. Thanks :P

Allez Federer~

AM95 · 11-13-2011, 02:40 PM

has rafa even clinched 2 yet? does murray have a chance of finishing above nadal?

Eternity · 11-13-2011, 02:49 PM

No, Rafa secured YE#2 after Murray lost to Berdych.

Love Game · 11-26-2011, 04:58 AM

" . . . A Federer semi-final victory would resonate on a number of levels. Firstly, he would become the third player to reach the final here seven or more times (Ivan Lendl reached nine finals here, Boris Becker reached eight). Secondly, he would have his 806th career match win, tying him with Stefan Edberg for sixth all-time in the Open Era (only Jimmy Connors, Lendl, Guillermo Vilas, John McEnroe and Andre Agassi have more). Thirdly, he would be the fifth player to reach 100 career tour-level finals in the Open Era (only Connors, Lendl, McEnroe and Vilas have more). Finally, and perhaps most relevant to his current situation, a win would move Federer past Andy Murray and to No. 3 on the year-end rankings - his ninth straight Top 3 year-end ranking. . . ."

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Briefing.aspx

joeri888 · 11-26-2011, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Game

" . . . A Federer semi-final victory would resonate on a number of levels. Firstly, he would become the third player to reach the final here seven or more times (Ivan Lendl reached nine finals here, Boris Becker reached eight). Secondly, he would have his 806th career match win, tying him with Stefan Edberg for sixth all-time in the Open Era (only Jimmy Connors, Lendl, Guillermo Vilas, John McEnroe and Andre Agassi have more). Thirdly, he would be the fifth player to reach 100 career tour-level finals in the Open Era (only Connors, Lendl, McEnroe and Vilas have more). Finally, and perhaps most relevant to his current situation, a win would move Federer past Andy Murray and to No. 3 on the year-end rankings - his ninth straight Top 3 year-end ranking. . . ."

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Briefing.aspx

A top 3 finish could be big. I see him ending there next year as well maybe. I think Rafa's wheels COULD come off, and so could Novak's. The gap with no. 5 is gigantic still.

tennis_pro · 11-26-2011, 05:31 AM

If Federer wins the tournament, not only he finishes at no 3 in the world but would also be only 1400 points behind Nadal

Ico · 11-26-2011, 06:46 AM

Guess not.

tennis_pro · 11-26-2011, 06:46 AM

Top 4 at the end of season:

1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray

Who would've backed Federer to end the year in the top 3 before Basel with Murray having a 2000+ ranking points lead at the time?

Mainad · 11-26-2011, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

Top 4 at the end of season:

1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray

Who would've backed Federer to end the year in the top 3 before Basel with Murray having a 2000+ ranking points lead at the time?

I had a strong feeling he would. After skipping the Asian swing, I just knew Fed would be well rested and fresh as a daisy for the year end tournaments. He usually is. The other 3 had either picked up injuries or were tired and jaded or both!

Sentinel · 11-26-2011, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

If Federer wins the tournament, not only he finishes at no 3 in the world but would also be only 1400 points behind Nadal

Rafa better pull up his socks.

Thx for the info, LG.

joeri888 · 11-26-2011, 08:10 AM

What is the record for straight top 3 finishes? Connors in 5?

Also, I don't really see Federer regaining no. 2 behind Nadal. In order to do so, he'll probably need to win the AO, which will most likely consist of either beating Nadal in a Slam, or Djokovic and then Murray back to back. That is unlikely to happen, so unless he finds himself in a half with Ferrer or someone beating the other of the big 4, it seems unlikely. Win 1 match against them out of 5 sets, yes. But two in a row? Not likely anymore.

flyinghippos101 · 11-26-2011, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joeri888

What is the record for straight top 3 finishes? Connors in 5?

Also, I don't really see Federer regaining no. 2 behind Nadal. In order to do so, he'll probably need to win the AO, which will most likely consist of either beating Nadal in a Slam, or Djokovic and then Murray back to back. That is unlikely to happen, so unless he finds himself in a half with Ferrer or someone beating the other of the big 4, it seems unlikely. Win 1 match against them out of 5 sets, yes. But two in a row? Not likely anymore.

Best case scenario is him drawing Djokovic in his half and then Murray in the finals. Ironically, Fed's chances of beating Djok in a slam are a great deal higher than beating Nadal, at any slam. It's not like Muzza ever puts up a fight at slam finals and has shown little in the way of progress at the big stages. Once again, it's the same thing it has been the past 3 years, he CANNOT afford to face Nadal.

TMF · 11-26-2011, 09:33 AM

Since Basel, Roger has accumulated 2,500 points up to now. And can add 500 more if he win on Sunday, that's a total of 3,000. Pretty good for an indoor season.

Homeboy Hotel · 11-26-2011, 09:53 AM

OP title Question: Will Federer End 2011 as No. 4?

Answer:

No.

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11-26-2011, 04:58 AM	#26
Love Game Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 26,336	Barclays ATP World Tour Finals Saturday Briefing " . . . A Federer semi-final victory would resonate on a number of levels. Firstly, he would become the third player to reach the final here seven or more times (Ivan Lendl reached nine finals here, Boris Becker reached eight). Secondly, he would have his 806th career match win, tying him with Stefan Edberg for sixth all-time in the Open Era (only Jimmy Connors, Lendl, Guillermo Vilas, John McEnroe and Andre Agassi have more). Thirdly, he would be the fifth player to reach 100 career tour-level finals in the Open Era (only Connors, Lendl, McEnroe and Vilas have more). Finally, and perhaps most relevant to his current situation, a win would move Federer past Andy Murray and to No. 3 on the year-end rankings - his ninth straight Top 3 year-end ranking. . . ." http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Briefing.aspx

11-26-2011, 05:31 AM	#28
tennis_pro G.O.A.T. Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11,974	If Federer wins the tournament, not only he finishes at no 3 in the world but would also be only 1400 points behind Nadal __________________ "By the Nalbandian logic, I could beat Federer when I'm "in form". Nalbandian is only a threat to linesmen." - pvaudio

11-26-2011, 06:46 AM	#30
tennis_pro G.O.A.T. Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11,974	Top 4 at the end of season: 1. Djokovic 2. Nadal 3. Federer 4. Murray Who would've backed Federer to end the year in the top 3 before Basel with Murray having a 2000+ ranking points lead at the time? __________________ "By the Nalbandian logic, I could beat Federer when I'm "in form". Nalbandian is only a threat to linesmen." - pvaudio

11-26-2011, 09:33 AM	#35
TMF G.O.A.T. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 13,937	Since Basel, Roger has accumulated 2,500 points up to now. And can add 500 more if he win on Sunday, that's a total of 3,000. Pretty good for an indoor season. __________________ NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon

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