Tourna Big Hitter Black 7

[sansaephanh]

Originally Posted by CDestroyer

This string has excellent directional control, much better than the BHBR. You will want to have a long fast stroke to utilize this string.

I would say that I like hitting flat and top from the baseline. Especially the really big ****ers that explode off the court. I hit the biggest kicks I have ever hit with these strings.

Felt confident returning kick serves with aggressive slices and hitting lasso returns as my buddy was hitting 8 foot serves over my head.

Feel is very good for a poly but I imagine depth control will take some time to dial in.

This company really has outdone itself with this string.

I agree with most of this.

So played this in a speed MP@53 for about 2.5 hours tonight. It didn't hurt my wrist! Comfortable in stiff racket for sure. It did have pretty good spin, but my technique was all over the place tonight, so I couldn't reap in very well. Where I DID notice the difference was my serves. The stiff racket+that string was comfortable with a ton of power in the sweet spot. I would have strung it higher, but it wasn't my racket lol. My penetrating serve was really moving, but I was hitting long quite often. My angles were pretty amazing with the ones i really tried to focus on spin with. I was hitting all sorts of lines. The most aces i've had in a while.

Ton of directional control
Really good spin if you have strokes that compliment it (i hit flat so I had a little trouble)
A bit too much pop for me, but I believe that was a tension problem. I'd love it @ 57.
Really comfortable
Though I'm not sure how tension maintenance is as I only played for 2.5 hours.

[DrewRafter8]

Tried it yesterday in a Black Drive+ @ 52/50. It's a really solid string but I'm not sure whether I'd make it my main string choice yet. It's the softest poly I've personally played with. I found great pop on serves and a solid directional control. I need another outing with it to really get a solid feel for it. It does have a lot of power and I wasn't able to really swing out the way I can with a fresh set of stiffer poly. Perhaps as noted by the poster above, I should have strung it higher. It's a very unique string but I'm not sure whether it will be what I buy a reel of. It's competing with some other strings as I try to nail down what plays best in my BD.

[P99]

Opinions please...


How much softer is bhb7 in 16 vs 17? The bhb7 in 17g I played with were good but if the 16s are a ton softer I'll definitely order those instead.

Black magic is another poly I use and the 16 gauge is a TON softer than the 17 in my opinion.

Thanks in advance.

[tennisnut09]

Originally Posted by P99

Opinions please...


How much softer is bhb7 in 16 vs 17? The bhb7 in 17g I played with were good but if the 16s are a ton softer I'll definitely order those instead.

Black magic is another poly I use and the 16 gauge is a TON softer than the 17 in my opinion.

Thanks in advance.

I am interested in this as well. Anyone help out please. Thx!

[.40S&W]

Originally Posted by P99

Opinions please...


How much softer is bhb7 in 16 vs 17? The bhb7 in 17g I played with were good but if the 16s are a ton softer I'll definitely order those instead.

Black magic is another poly I use and the 16 gauge is a TON softer than the 17 in my opinion.

Thanks in advance.

anyone?

[CDestroyer]

Originally Posted by P99

Opinions please...


How much softer is bhb7 in 16 vs 17? The bhb7 in 17g I played with were good but if the 16s are a ton softer I'll definitely order those instead.

Black magic is another poly I use and the 16 gauge is a TON softer than the 17 in my opinion.

Thanks in advance.

Right. Also the 16 gauge Kevlar is softer than the 17 gauge VS Gut.

Tool.

[P99]

Originally Posted by CDestroyer

Right. Also the 16 gauge Kevlar is softer than the 17 gauge VS Gut.

Tool.

Looks like someone is TRYING TO BE FUNNY. Thinner gauge strings are normally stiffer and made stronger versus the same strings in thicker gauges to compensate for durability. That is not to say a thinner gauge will be more durable. It is adjusted just so it won't break as fast with the same constructed material. The stiffness varies per string that's why I wanted to know this from people who tried BOTH.

[fgs]

p99,
who told you that thinner strings are adjusted to be stiffer and hence more durable?
thinner strings are more lively and maybe more "crisp" due to this, but definitely not stiffer. basically it is the same material, so there is no adjustment except for the smaller diameter, which means for instance between 1.20 and 1.25mm a sectional difference of about 20%!

[Bmr]

IMHO, playing the BHB7 in 17 is not smart. You will break those things quick. The 16 is pretty much a 17 already. I can't comment on the softness, but I would go 16 for sure due to durability.

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by fgs

p99,
who told you that thinner strings are adjusted to be stiffer and hence more durable?
thinner strings are more lively and maybe more "crisp" due to this, but definitely not stiffer. basically it is the same material, so there is no adjustment except for the smaller diameter, which means for instance between 1.20 and 1.25mm a sectional difference of about 20%!

In general....If you inverstigate the RSI numbers, 16G have higher stiffness ratings than a 17G of the same string. NOTE.. I stated in general. NOTE: #2... THe RSI numbers do not always translate well to real world results..

[fgs]

steve I,
p99 was stating exactly the opposite, that the thinner string (17ga) is stiffer than the thicker one (16ga), which in my opinion is not the case and the physical measurements (both rsi and twu) don't back up that theory as well.

[fortun8son]

If you take two strings of the same length but different diameters and place them under the same tension, the thinner string will vibrate faster(higher pitch) when struck or plucked.
Thinner string also weighs less, making the racquet a bit more head-light.
Perhaps this is contributing to the 'stiffness' that you are feeling.

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by fgs

steve I,
p99 was stating exactly the opposite, that the thinner string (17ga) is stiffer than the thicker one (16ga), which in my opinion is not the case and the physical measurements (both rsi and twu) don't back up that theory as well.

Yes.. he is wrong in general terms. I am not sure where he got his theory..??

[Torres]

Originally Posted by P99

Thinner gauge strings are normally stiffer and made stronger versus the same strings in thicker gauges to compensate for durability.

No. A thinner gauge of the same string will be less durable and less stiff. Just a matter of simple physics.

[arche3]

Originally Posted by Torres

No. A thinner gauge of the same string will be less durable and less stiff. Just a matter of simple physics.

I believe the point is with the same string but different gauge, a 17 will string up tighter than a 16. So it will have a higher string bed stiffness. A thinner string stretches more under the same tension than a thicker one. Just a matter of simple physics.

[Torres]

Originally Posted by arche3

I believe the point is with the same string but different gauge, a 17 will string up tighter than a 16. So it will have a higher string bed stiffness. A thinner string stretches more under the same tension than a thicker one. Just a matter of simple physics.

You clearly don't any clue what you're talking about (which isn't surpsingly given the rest of your posts).

Go string a 16 and 17 on an eCP machine and take some DT measurements.

Then come back post again, and tell the world that you were wrong. Again.

[arche3]

Originally Posted by Torres

You clearly don't any clue what you're talking about (which isn't surpsingly given the rest of your posts).

Go string a 16 and 17 on an eCP machine and take some DT measurements.

Then come back post again, and tell the world that you were wrong. Again.

maybe a pro stringer can chime in. I'm not about to do something that is obvious.

[fgs]

i'm not a pro stringer, but i've been stringing for quite a while now. when i want the same feel of the stringbed, i usually go down 1kg if i string a 1.25mm as opposed to a 1.20mm in order to obtain what i feel would be the same touch off the stringbed.

maybe i'm wrong and my "feel" is weird, but that's not only what i do, but what a lot of people i am in contact with and who string do as well.

scientifically we might be wrong and i also await the much sought after expert expertise.

[Bobo96]

Hey, anyone with one of those string tension measuring tools ever measure the tension on this string from start to the time it breaks??

[duffman]

Originally Posted by Bobo96

Hey, anyone with one of those string tension measuring tools ever measure the tension on this string from start to the time it breaks??

I string my full bhb7 bed at 48 lbs on my string way. This measures at 50 lbs right off the machine and after the initial tension drop it loses about 5% down to 47 lb range. After the first hit it loses another 3-4 lbs and stays at this range for a few hours of hitting. It then drops a second time to around 40 lbs and while it still feels pretty good to hit with, it's in this range where it is about to pop. My racquet is a babalot pure storm tour.