youtube request of young kids brushing up on mini/touch tennis (not QS)

[Pro_Tour_630]

Hello I created this thread to find youtube videos of 3-8 year old kids brushing up softly on their strokes using mini tennis or touch tennis with NEW regulation balls. We can tell by the bounce if the yellow regulation ball is flat.

I would like to see proper strokes and sustained rallies ie more than 12 shots, not few shots with few proper strokes, from both players.

Ok this is the exercise, search and post away........and please don't include kids that are elite 9 or over........... we know they can do this drill.

I need to present this to USTA player development in the know that these 3-8 kids are capable of doing this drill and prove them wrong.

[Dadof10s]

I am sorry if I did not make my other post more clear but my nephew's coach used other kinds of balls for the kids. My nephew was using a spongy looking ball when he first had his lessons and then as he got better he began to use different balls. I am a little confused but I thought the other coaches said you can use different kinds of balls and that he was using yellow regular balls but you did not have to and that the idea was the same even if the children used these other balls?

[TennisCoachFLA]

Wow, had to come out of 'retirement' for one last post.

Who said anything about kid's rallying? Who said a thing about sustained rallies? Who said you had to only use new regulation balls? Who said Billie Jean King was wrong?

1. Billie Jean King and the UK tennis dad are not disagreeing. They are talking about 2 different things. King never said touch tennis was not used. She was only addressing the Quickstart part. How many kids has she developed from start to finish? Zero. She pops into the clinics before WTT matches and poses for pictures and hits some balls. She is not an in the trenches coach nor does she claim to be, want to be, or need to be.

2. The mini touch tennis is a coach run lesson. The coach hits balls while instructing the kids. It has zero to do with kids hitting to each other.

3. No one mentioned sustained rallies. The coach feeds balls and instructs. At first 1 ball may come back, then 2 in a row, eventually the coach and kids have brush up rallies.

4. New yellow balls? I said several times that you can use foam balls or any balls. Depends on the talents of the coach and kids.

I will give you the last word, go for it. In fact, have 10000 last words, I'm out. Got my own kid and students to worry about and thats enough tennis for me to handle.

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by Dadof10s

I am sorry if I did not make my other post more clear but my nephew's coach used other kinds of balls for the kids. My nephew was using a spongy looking ball when he first had his lessons and then as he got better he began to use different balls. I am a little confused but I thought the other coaches said you can use different kinds of balls and that he was using yellow regular balls but you did not have to and that the idea was the same even if the children used these other balls?

if sponge , red ,orange, green balls are used then isn't that part of quickstart tennis the minute you introduce new Yellow balls at any stage it is not QS tennis anymore.

below are direct quotes from what TCF was saying, he is saying a yellow ball is used on his 3 year old daughter, then he back peddles and includes soft balls, "IF NEEDED AT FIRST". Well of course it is going to be needed because not many are well trained teachers and elite jr players.

TCF wants to merge the two together yet they are opposite and different. But I am willing to listen and learn and change my mind if I see it with my own eyes,,,,,,hence this thread. Show me several 3-8 year olds doing this drill using new yellow balls and I will concede. I have seen many using the slow balls but I have not seen them using new yellow balls.

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

So these pros were taught touch tennis from the service lines using yellow balls, just like my daughter and I have done at times since age 3. This means to me the USTA and LTA have completely misread this thing.

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

Mini tennis means 2 very different things. In one, touch tennis, a yellow ball is used, a well trained coach teaches kids to touch and brush up on the ball using a full stroke in slow motion. The coach gradually moves the kids side to side, FH to FH and BH to BH. Proper yet very quick foot movement and text book strokes are promoted. And yes, softer low compression ball can be used at first if needed which is what those pros meant.

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

Wow, had to come out of 'retirement' for one last post.

Who said anything about kid's rallying? Who said a thing about sustained rallies? Who said you had to only use new regulation balls? Who said Billie Jean King was wrong?

1. Billie Jean King and the UK tennis dad are not disagreeing. They are talking about 2 different things. King never said touch tennis was not used. She was only addressing the Quickstart part. How many kids has she developed from start to finish? Zero. She pops into the clinics before WTT matches and poses for pictures and hits some balls. She is not an in the trenches coach nor does she claim to be, want to be, or need to be.

2. The mini touch tennis is a coach run lesson. The coach hits balls while instructing the kids. It has zero to do with kids hitting to each other.

3. No one mentioned sustained rallies. The coach feeds balls and instructs. At first 1 ball may come back, then 2 in a row, eventually the coach and kids have brush up rallies.

4. New yellow balls? I said several times that you can use foam balls or any balls. Depends on the talents of the coach and kids.

I will give you the last word, go for it. In fact, have 10000 last words, I'm out. Got my own kid and students to worry about and thats enough tennis for me to handle.

back again, could not resist welcome back......... "eventually the coach and the kid have brush up rallies" with proper strokes moving side to side is the achieve goal here using yellow balls, please post a video of this brush up rallies using yellow balls by 3-8 year old kids, we would like to see their rare talent . We are waiting.

[ga tennis]

Dont go T.C.F!!!! Hey my baby just turned 10 and starting to look like a little pro.She is moving so much better.I just wish I could make her love it as much as I do.Its gotta come from within no matter how much I want it.

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

Dont go T.C.F!!!! Hey my baby just turned 10 and starting to look like a little pro.She is moving so much better.I just wish I could make her love it as much as I do.Its gotta come from within no matter how much I want it.

Ga can we have a video of your kid doing this drill using NEW yellow balls, with you not with a pro like Macci. I know she is advanced and 10, which is stretching this exercise. And I know she has fine skills but can you honestly tell this forum that it is very hard and challenging for the two of you to do when she was say 3-8, thank you,.

[ga tennis]

at3,4,5,6 she would have not been that good at this drill.She could rally from the baseline good at 7 Now she can brush and keep the ball in the service box 1000 times in a row.

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

at3,4,5,6 she would have not been that good at this drill.She could rally from the baseline good at 7 Now she can brush and keep the ball in the service box 1000 times in a row.

thank you, by 10 she could do this drill effectively and reached her goal and she is a boarder line elite player with a dad who was #1 in GA.

can you imagine an average parent with average kid going through this drill, the level of frustration............!!!!!

[slice bh compliment]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

...boarder line elite player with a dad who was #1 in GA. ...

#1 in Georgia. Cool. I bet the dad knew Alex Metreveli. Or if he is younger, maybe he knows Irakli Labadze. Both from Georgia. Small tennis community, so I bet they are all pretty close.

[arche3]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

Hello I created this thread to find youtube videos of 3-8 year old kids brushing up softly on their strokes using mini tennis or touch tennis with NEW regulation balls. We can tell by the bounce if the yellow regulation ball is flat.

I would like to see proper strokes and sustained rallies ie more than 12 shots, not few shots with few proper strokes, from both players.

Ok this is the exercise, search and post away........and please don't include kids that are elite 9 or over........... we know they can do this drill.

I need to present this to USTA player development in the know that these 3-8 kids are capable of doing this drill and prove them wrong.

my kid is now 10 but he could do this at 8. mini tennis with a lot of control. I would imagine most kids can do it hitting softly. My son is tall though. He is 5ft 2 inches at 10 years old now. So he was tall at 8. we always used regular balls.

not sure what this proves or disproves though. He is a great listener and very coachable so that's probably why he was able to do it.

[Pro_Tour_630]

arch, your kid wears size 9 mens shoe at 8/9 years old, your kid is a football player who moves quick and listens and is coachable, meaning at age 5-8 he acts and moves like an average 10 year old, big difference( because after 10 the USTA does not care if you use yellow, they do not want kids under 10 using yellow), he is a rare talent, tall fast great listener/coachable, not your average 5-7 year old has these characteristics.

But since you brought it up please show us some video of your son at 8, I think I have seen a youtube of your stroke? can't remember.

[Pro_Tour_630]

this is just an example of an adult and a pro at a serious academy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZfCF...eature=related

notice all the errors ( net balls and bad form) until they get their groove kind of in the end, and we expect to do this with 3 year old?

and what bothers me the most are the ladies 2.5-3.5 doubles hacks, first thing they do is come to the service line and do mini tennis with the worst form and all wrong, for what? I have no idea, some pro out there told them to do this and it has gotten out of control, no pun intended !?!?!?!?!?!

[arche3]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

arch, your kid wears size 9 mens shoe at 8/9 years old, your kid is a football player who moves quick and listens and is coachable, meaning at age 5-8 he acts and moves like an average 10 year old, big difference( because after 10 the USTA does not care if you use yellow, they do not want kids under 10 using yellow), he is a rare talent, tall fast great listener/coachable, not your average 5-7 year old has these characteristic.

But since you brought it up please show us some video of your son at 8, I think I have seen a few of you on youtube? can't remember.

I don't have any video of my kid. I have posted a video of myself before though. Just against a wall as I have not had the nerve to ask someone if I can video us.

My son is actually normal. He is just big and fast. Not anymore coordinated over other kids that play a lot of tennis. His strength is he really listens. He is not rarely talented in terms of coordination.

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by arche3

my kid is now 10 ... He is 5ft 2 inches at 10 years old now.

I was still only 5' 3" at 15 years old. Should I have been using a
quickstart-sized court and sponge balls?

[arche3]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

I was still only 5' 3" at 15 years old. Should I have been using a
quickstart-sized court and sponge balls?

LMAO...

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