Can one point change the match result ?

Nostradamus · 01-29-2012, 07:15 PM

That backhand passing shot miss by Nadal pretty much changed the end result of the match. Had Nadal made that pass, he would have most likely held and go ahead by 5-2 score. and match would have been his. If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.

Lsmkenpo · 01-29-2012, 07:37 PM

Yes, one point could have also given Djokovic the first set, and the match would have been over in 3 sets. It would have than been one of the worst major finals played in the open era.

One point can not only change a match but it can completely change public perception, and tennis history.

30fifteen · 01-29-2012, 08:22 PM

A point can change any match result. The line between winning and losing is very thin between two evenly matched opponents.

Nostradamus · 01-29-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 30fifteen

A point can change any match result. The line between winning and losing is very thin between two evenly matched opponents.

i think that one point could change history as well. If Novak wins the Grand slam this year, history would have been made.

gregor.b · 01-29-2012, 08:31 PM

Ask Novak about THAT return of serve against Fed at the US Open last year. See what he thinks.

ledwix · 01-29-2012, 08:31 PM

Yes, every single point of course has an effect on the score and the match in general. It's not like that single point decided it. It was a combination of everything. If Djokovic took advantage of his 5-3 lead while serving in the tiebreak, he would have wrapped it up in 4. He also had the 0-40 on Nadal's serve. etc.

purge · 01-29-2012, 08:56 PM

weve seen it happen countless of times

Lsmkenpo · 01-29-2012, 09:13 PM

Not only can one point change a match, but many points can become insignificant as a result of one.

A player can win more points and games than his opponent but still lose the match.

Sentinel · 01-29-2012, 09:23 PM

Wasn't there one point that changed Murray's match with someone last year. Pretty big match.

And one dropshot that changed Roger's match (RG final first set i think). Lots of such examples. Nice alternate universe of one-point-that-changed.

Roger also admitted one point against Haas changed his match at 2009 RG.

wimble10 · 01-29-2012, 10:39 PM

I think it's much worse when the point is decided by an incorrect line call. Happened a few times in this tournament. eg. Berdych/Nadal, Isner/Nalbandian match.

Hood_Man · 02-02-2012, 04:57 PM

Davydenko may well have lost the 2010 Australian Open with that wild forehand in the second set, when he had a break point for a double break against Federer in the quarter final.

fundrazer · 02-02-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lsmkenpo

Yes, one point could have also given Djokovic the first set, and the match would have been over in 3 sets. It would have than been one of the worst major finals played in the open era.

One point can not only change a match but it can completely change public perception, and tennis history.

No, it cannot change the match in the way you are thinking. I made this same point to MichaelNadal. You change one point, the whole rest of the match following that point follows a different path.

But yes, one point can turn around a match.

Xizel · 02-02-2012, 05:27 PM

Federer's first set against Karlovic this Aussie. Luckiest net cord (I think) ever. Having a set point on Karlovic's serve and winning it with sheer luck.

OddJack · 02-02-2012, 05:52 PM

Yes sure can.

People need to remind themselves that at 5-3 Djoker went for a FH winner that was missed for same number of millimeters that Nadal missed that BH. While the passing shot would have given Nadal a 40-15 lead, the FH would give Djoker 3 match points.

ATP100 · 02-02-2012, 06:03 PM

Easy Answer: NO

In peoples minds....yes

Tammo · 02-02-2012, 06:35 PM

Roddick could have won Wimbledon 2009 if he had made that volley in the 2nd set TB.

romeo8880 · 02-02-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus

If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.

There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening.

wintintu · 02-03-2012, 07:34 AM

The answer is yes - it can:

Murray missed chance at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Rafa's serve at Wimbledon 2011

Rafa missed backhand at 2-2 4-2 30-15 against Novak at Australian Open 2012

Djokovic return at 2-2 4-5 15-40 on Federer's serve at US Open 2011

They are the ones that jump out at me! Murray's against Rafa in particular - once he hit that shot I knew in my head he would lose

Vamos Rafa · 02-03-2012, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

Wasn't there one point that changed Murray's match with someone last year. Pretty big match.

And one dropshot that changed Roger's match (RG final first set i think). Lots of such examples. Nice alternate universe of one-point-that-changed.

Roger also admitted one point against Haas changed his match at 2009 RG.

That would be the Wimby semi against Rafa. Looked like he would win before missing a simple forehand.

winstonplum · 02-03-2012, 02:19 PM

Can anybody find some video of that shot? I can't find the highlight anywhere?

01-29-2012, 07:15 PM	#1
Nostradamus Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In the future Posts: 4,519	Can one point change the match result ? That backhand passing shot miss by Nadal pretty much changed the end result of the match. Had Nadal made that pass, he would have most likely held and go ahead by 5-2 score. and match would have been his. If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point. __________________ Babolat Pure drive 2012, 55 lbs, Kirschbaum Proline X / X-1 biphase. Nalbandian backhand and Nadal forehand.

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Lsmkenpo Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,914	Yes, one point could have also given Djokovic the first set, and the match would have been over in 3 sets. It would have than been one of the worst major finals played in the open era. One point can not only change a match but it can completely change public perception, and tennis history. Last edited by Lsmkenpo : 01-29-2012 at 07:43 PM.

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Sentinel Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 23,492	Wasn't there one point that changed Murray's match with someone last year. Pretty big match. And one dropshot that changed Roger's match (RG final first set i think). Lots of such examples. Nice alternate universe of one-point-that-changed. Roger also admitted one point against Haas changed his match at 2009 RG. __________________ "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."

02-03-2012, 07:34 AM	#18
wintintu Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,107	The answer is yes - it can: Murray missed chance at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Rafa's serve at Wimbledon 2011 Rafa missed backhand at 2-2 4-2 30-15 against Novak at Australian Open 2012 Djokovic return at 2-2 4-5 15-40 on Federer's serve at US Open 2011 They are the ones that jump out at me! Murray's against Rafa in particular - once he hit that shot I knew in my head he would lose __________________ No blog links in sigs - DD