Can one point change the match result ? - Page 2

Don Felder · 02-03-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gregor.b

Ask Novak about THAT return of serve against Fed at the US Open last year. See what he thinks.

Stole my post. No kidding. That return was a total, resigned tank "smash as hard as I can" shot... and it changed the match!

Ledigs · 02-03-2012, 04:39 PM

With Djokovic and Nadal, yes. With other pairings probably not so much.

The Gentleman's Sport · 02-09-2012, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by romeo8880

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus

If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.

There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening.

You've been wrong about Djokovic in the past...

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Originally Posted by romeo8880 re: Djoko Murray semi

I will be hoping for Murray if he wins this but the truth is Nadal is going to crush either of these guys.

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Originally Posted by romeo8880 pre AO Final

Indeed. The big 2 are Federer and Nadal. Djokovic's fluke 2011 will soon be forgotten after he wins nothing this year.

He also wasn't going to win the USO according to you. (We're now at 5 slams btw)

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Originally Posted by romeo8880 re: Fed Nadal semi

lol, both would have beat Djokovic in straight sets. Nadal is going to destroy whoever is in the final.

Nadal can't do anything, and you think Fed's ever gonna beat Djokovic again?

Castiel · 02-09-2012, 06:34 AM

Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0...eature=related
point starts right after federer misses the forehand

The Gentleman's Sport · 02-09-2012, 07:09 AM

The answer to the question is yes. Look no further than The Shot™ from the Djokovic/Fed USO 2011 semi as Gregor mentioned.

But if we're really talking about Nadal's error, the answer is no. It wouldn't have made a difference. It wasn't a crucial moment or a special shot and there were plenty of chances Djokovic missed earlier in the match which would've wrapped it up nicely in his favour.

Hood_Man · 02-09-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Castiel

Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0...eature=related
point starts right after federer misses the forehand

Probably the scariest match I've ever seen.

Castiel · 02-09-2012, 02:14 PM

My heart rate in this match was higher than Nadal's top spin rate.

sdont · 02-09-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Castiel

Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0...eature=related
point starts right after federer misses the forehand

If there is only one point I remember from my life as a tennis fan, it would be this one. Just after he hit this IO FH, French commentators were already saying "if Federer goes on to win the FO this year, this FH will be remembered." How right they were!

jackson vile · 02-09-2012, 03:11 PM

Worked for Novak USO 2011, that one point turned around the whole match. Otherwise Nadal would have defeated Federer in the final.

Hitman · 02-10-2012, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jackson vile

Worked for Novak USO 2011, that one point turned around the whole match. Otherwise Nadal would have defeated Federer in the final.

Yeah, you're right. That one point ensured that Nadal was not going to defend USO. The winner of the event had been decided by that one shot.

westside · 02-10-2012, 05:30 AM

As mentioned earlier, Roddick missing THAT volley denied him of his first Wimbledon (imo).

Federer netting a tweener on MP against Safin in the 2005 AO SF. After the shot, you could see in his face that he knew it was an unnecessary shot.

Roddick v Hewitt 2001 USO QF. This call; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sr3A10qZkE

Beryl · 02-10-2012, 09:39 AM

The literal answer is no. You have to win by 2 points to take any game, including tiebreakers, so two points to take any match. Two points can change the result, one is insufficient. The easy example is when it's 6-6 in a 3rd set tiebreaker: whoever wins the next two points wins the match.

However, mentally, one point can definitely shift the match. Most obvious examples is the missed easy putaway forehand sitter by Murray Wimbledon semi 2011 at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Nadal's serve.

02-09-2012, 03:11 PM	#29
jackson vile Legend Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,560	Worked for Novak USO 2011, that one point turned around the whole match. Otherwise Nadal would have defeated Federer in the final. __________________ GOAT = Novak > Fedal

02-10-2012, 05:30 AM	#31
westside Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,557	As mentioned earlier, Roddick missing THAT volley denied him of his first Wimbledon (imo). Federer netting a tweener on MP against Safin in the 2005 AO SF. After the shot, you could see in his face that he knew it was an unnecessary shot. Roddick v Hewitt 2001 USO QF. This call; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sr3A10qZkE __________________ Yonex Vcore 97. Last edited by westside : 02-10-2012 at 05:34 AM.

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