Wrestling Discussion Thread

[hollywood9826]

Maybe they have him play the moster heel as Tensai, then turn on his manger and claim he is tired of the stupid tensai crap and wants to grow his back hair back out and be A-Train again. Thus completing the face turn

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

Didnt see RAW, but I can understand why they would use Brock in that capacity. Maybe when my buddy told me they are setting up Brock vs Rock WM for the title he isnt that far off.

But that Diverticulitis really affected him. He lost way too much muscle mass and doesnt have that same beast appeal. Id say Batista at this point probably would have been better to come in and take the monster heel role.

Did they do anythign with Tensai on RAW? I still got 4 more weeks of bowling so I usually catch the replays on Universal HD later in the week.

You can usually find the full shows of Raw/Smackdown on youtube within a day of when they're over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf370k6v-6A

The opening segment was awesome. Batista's a dbag, I hope he never comes back. I don't care how much Brock's lost, he's still a bigger draw and more interesting than Batista ever was and ever will be.

[maverick66]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

There are certain people that are going to cheer Brock NO MATTER WHAT. Of course he's a heel now since he sided with Ace. The Cena feud is just to get him over as a heel with the kids and Cena fans (yes there are some, not everyone hates the guy). Then he can move onto Orton and get even more heel heat, then beat Punk for the title and get mega heat from the internet/smarky crowd. The crowd reaction will change in due time, that's not a big deal right now. But they're pushing him to be a mega heel, that much is clear.

I understand the Cena feud but i just dont see it happening. I do agree if they have him destroy Punk then he will get heal heat. Having him destroy Bryan would work as well as the internet smarks loves his work rate. I just think your gonna see him destroy guy after guy and still get cheered for it.

They havnt seen a real monster heel in a long time. Henry was so close but got injured then jobbed out which was a shame. Kane at this point isnt as scary as he was. So the monster heels have been lacking and Brock brings that. So people are gonna cheer him as everyone loves a monster that can actually move.

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

Heard those Albert chants again Monday.

Had me dying laughing. I am not sure if they really believed people wouldnt remember who he was.

[hollywood9826]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

You can usually find the full shows of Raw/Smackdown on youtube within a day of when they're over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf370k6v-6A

The opening segment was awesome. Batista's a dbag, I hope he never comes back. I don't care how much Brock's lost, he's still a bigger draw and more interesting than Batista ever was and ever will be.

I guess if I had a bigger monitor it wouldnt be so bad. But I like the Universal HD replays and dont mind already knowing what is going to happen. I usually turn it on go take a crap and when a divas segmant comes on ill fast forward through that. Thank god for the divas or I wouldnt get to drop a duece in the middle of RAW or SD

I know brock will get more love than Batista. I was just trying to say Batistas physique is better at this point than Brocks. Brock still does habe the crazy looking eyes though. I liked Batista in Evolution but once he was main eventing I felt he couldnt hold his own very well. Very Goldbergesque.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

I guess if I had a bigger monitor it wouldnt be so bad. But I like the Universal HD replays and dont mind already knowing what is going to happen. I usually turn it on go take a crap and when a divas segmant comes on ill fast forward through that. Thank god for the divas or I wouldnt get to drop a duece in the middle of RAW or SD

I know brock will get more love than Batista. I was just trying to say Batistas physique is better at this point than Brocks. Brock still does habe the crazy looking eyes though. I liked Batista in Evolution but once he was main eventing I felt he couldnt hold his own very well. Very Goldbergesque.

Batista dropped some weight after he left WWE. He was in Miami for a triathalon last weekend.



Still big, but not as big as he was during the Evolution days. And if you want to talk about mic work then bring up Batista? Basketballs don't hold grudges Batista?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCt-HUn0AAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CybIK...feature=relmfu

They already did the monster thing with Batista as heel going after Cena 2 years ago, it was pretty good but would feel like too much of a retread now. Meanwhile Brock has been away for so long and has the reputation as a legit UFC Champ to fall back on, even if his physique isn't what it once was.

Originally Posted by maverick66

I understand the Cena feud but i just dont see it happening. I do agree if they have him destroy Punk then he will get heal heat. Having him destroy Bryan would work as well as the internet smarks loves his work rate. I just think your gonna see him destroy guy after guy and still get cheered for it.

They havnt seen a real monster heel in a long time. Henry was so close but got injured then jobbed out which was a shame. Kane at this point isnt as scary as he was. So the monster heels have been lacking and Brock brings that. So people are gonna cheer him as everyone loves a monster that can actually move.

I don't think it matters how they push him if certain people are still going to cheer him. The crowd chants 'YES' for Bryan but he's not turning face anytime soon, at least I don't think. The crowd's booed Cena for years and he doesn't turn heel. Kane gets cheered even though he's a heel. So I'm sure they can live with some people still cheering Lesnar even though he's booked as a heel.

[hollywood9826]

Its obvious Batista needs to get back on the roids

I guess maybe Sheffiled/Ryback (I hate that name) has potential to fill that muscle role. but Mason Ryan is pretty jacked as well.

Forget I mentioned Batista

People love Brock and will always love Brock.

They should Bring back Buff Bagwell and Scott Norton as Viscous and Delicious. Then have the Dudleys come back and 3-D them through like 15 tables

[maverick66]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyCwJ10QrHA

Hes buff and hes the stuff?

I am not gonna lie I do get a little marky when the old timers come out. Its a child hood nostalgia thing. Sometimes it makes me feel like I am getting old though remembering Rowdy Roddy Piper when he was wrestling.

[hollywood9826]

When they mentioned Piper on that special Smackdown I was hoping they were gonna have him crush a cocunut over Snukas head for old times sake.

Or if Snuka is too old and didnt want to do it have Piper smash it over Taminas head.

Pretty much every big fued back in the day would get started on Pipers Pit.

Edge had the Cutting Edge and Jericho had his deal, and brother love. But they never had the Piper edge to them.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

When they mentioned Piper on that special Smackdown I was hoping they were gonna have him crush a cocunut over Snukas head for old times sake.

Or if Snuka is too old and didnt want to do it have Piper smash it over Taminas head.

Pretty much every big fued back in the day would get started on Pipers Pit.

Edge had the Cutting Edge and Jericho had his deal, and brother love. But they never had the Piper edge to them.

Piper's still damn good on the mic. No, great. His segment last year with Cena trying to get him to turn heel was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BUpf59SfDQ

[maverick66]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Piper's still damn good on the mic. No, great. His segment last year with Cena trying to get him to turn heel was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BUpf59SfDQ

One thing I noticed with old timers over the younger guys is the character development was much better. It seems like gimmicks are no longer over the top characters but more reality based which I get was what they wanted but I wish they would have held on to some of the character as I feel it really shined through with some of the guys.

Some guys like a CM Punk are great being themselves but others work a gimmick so well when its a character and not just im the bad guy gimmick.

[jamesblakefan#1]

What did y'all think of Brock's promo last night? I get what yall are saying about Brock having a girly voice, but still think he delivers well and with conviction.

[maverick66]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

What did y'all think of Brock's promo last night? I get what yall are saying about Brock having a girly voice, but still think he delivers well and with conviction.

He still is a monster no matter his voice. He brings legit fear with him into a ring. alot of these guys you look and only see a performer and think ya right like he could really beat that guy but with Brock that never happens. He is huge and strong so works as an intimidating monster.

Kinda like how Kane was before he got older and they tried to make him a good guy.

I was happy to see Mark Henry in a big match last night but they just dont do him justice. They have him lose to Punk which is ok but I dont know I feel like they show him as weak for some reason. I just loved his scary monster side and I just dont feel it anymore from him.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by maverick66

I was happy to see Mark Henry in a big match last night but they just dont do him justice. They have him lose to Punk which is ok but I dont know I feel like they show him as weak for some reason. I just loved his scary monster side and I just dont feel it anymore from him.

Monster heels generally don't have long pushes because once they lose, it's over, the aura is gone and they fall back to the midcard. I'm sure Henry's not complaining, he got a hell of a push last year, went over Sheamus, Orton, Show. But it's unreal to think he'd stay that strong forever.

[maverick66]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Monster heels generally don't have long pushes because once they lose, it's over, the aura is gone and they fall back to the midcard. I'm sure Henry's not complaining, he got a hell of a push last year, went over Sheamus, Orton, Show. But it's unreal to think he'd stay that strong forever.

I like the guy and he has been around forever and finally got his push. Even though he had the hand moment which was classic bad WWF moment. I just wish he had kept momentum instead of being jobbed out a little. Shame to see him go that way when you know he isnt gonna be going for much longer.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by maverick66

I like the guy and he has been around forever and finally got his push. Even though he had the hand moment which was classic bad WWF moment. I just wish he had kept momentum instead of being jobbed out a little. Shame to see him go that way when you know he isnt gonna be going for much longer.

He had a pretty strong run nonetheless. Beat Orton clean at 2 straight PPVs. Bad *** run. Still he was going to drop the belt eventually, and losing to Show with a clear injury isn't exactly getting 'jobbed' out. Ask Bryan what getting jobbed out is for a heel. I'm sure he'll have another main event run, a feud with him and Sheamus for the belt would be fun.

[maverick66]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

He had a pretty strong run nonetheless. Beat Orton clean at 2 straight PPVs. Bad *** run. Still he was going to drop the belt eventually, and losing to Show with a clear injury isn't exactly getting 'jobbed' out. Ask Bryan what getting jobbed out is for a heel. I'm sure he'll have another main event run, a feud with him and Sheamus for the belt would be fun.

He did have a good run and it was good to see after all the years of him being a company man he finally got rewarded. Just kinda disappointed to see it end but such is wrestling. On to the next guy or HHH vs HBK vs Undertaker once for the last time again.

Bryan cracks me up. He is degrading this girl so bad and yet people are cheering for it. Just no heel heat at all. The yes chants have the feeling of the what chants. Not sure I am gonna be a fan of that.

Jobbing out Bryan to Sheamus seems to have hurt Sheamus alot more. Just not a great way to exchange a belt at Wrestlemania at all. Not sure if they where punishing Bryan or just shitty writing again. when I saw it happen I figured someone must have been hurt but that isnt the case.

[r2473]

Don't forget, Olympic trials are this weekend. You can watch them (tape delayed) on NBC Sports Network (Versus) Saturday and Sunday:

http://thegazette.com/2012/04/04/tv-...stling-trials/

[hollywood9826]

Originally Posted by maverick66

He did have a good run and it was good to see after all the years of him being a company man he finally got rewarded. Just kinda disappointed to see it end but such is wrestling. On to the next guy or HHH vs HBK vs Undertaker once for the last time again.

Bryan cracks me up. He is degrading this girl so bad and yet people are cheering for it. Just no heel heat at all. The yes chants have the feeling of the what chants. Not sure I am gonna be a fan of that.

Jobbing out Bryan to Sheamus seems to have hurt Sheamus alot more. Just not a great way to exchange a belt at Wrestlemania at all. Not sure if they where punishing Bryan or just shitty writing again. when I saw it happen I figured someone must have been hurt but that isnt the case.

Im not a fan of the yes chants. That what chants are pretty lame. But when R-Truth did the

"Dont what Me."

[Pause}

"OK what me"

it was kinda funny.

Originally Posted by r2473

Don't forget, Olympic trials are this weekend. You can watch them (tape delayed) on NBC Sports Network (Versus) Saturday and Sunday:

http://thegazette.com/2012/04/04/tv-...stling-trials/

Thanks for the info I will be sure not to watch that as nobody can powerbomb anybody or do anythign remotly entertaining.

[Ronaldo]

The match-up for Brock will be the Undertaker with Stone Cold as the ref. Especially if Brock's wifey gets involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za-Vw...feature=relmfu

[hollywood9826]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

The match-up for Brock will be the Undertaker with Stone Cold as the ref. Especially if Brock's wifey gets involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za-Vw...feature=relmfu

It should be Brock and Sable (naked) vs Undertaker and Michelle McCool (Naked)

And Mean Marc Mero ahould be the ref.