If Djoker wouldve had the same rest for the AO finals as Nadal....

[zacinnc78]

.....it wouldve been another demolition job .People,dont fool yourselves into thinking Nadal has Djoker"figured out".Djoker was alot more tired and still managed to win over his new pigeon.

[MichaelNadal]

Lol hilarity. He wasn't anymore tired than he would have been with 50 days of rest.

[Nathaniel_Near]

Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Lol hilarity. He wasn't anymore tired than he would have been with 50 days of rest.

Lol. Djokovic would have definitely been fresher, he needed a set to get his legs going and to mug it up towards the end of set 4 just for Nadal to fall to his knees in glory and pride, after which Djokovic prolonged his agony before taking him to clutch school.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Lol hilarity. He wasn't anymore tired than he would have been with 50 days of rest.

Exactly. Don't you have an MJ gif that you can use to describe this pathetic thread? Lol.

[cknobman]

Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Lol hilarity. He wasn't anymore tired than he would have been with 50 days of rest.

Disagree, watching the match you could definitely tell in the early going that Novak was still feeling his short rest from the semis. Of course he still had plenty in the tank and once he warmed up, loosened the muscles, and had a little adrenaline pumping it was pretty much all even.

Id dont think it would have been a demolition if Novak had the same rest but Novak may have won that first set.

[Nathaniel_Near]

Originally Posted by cknobman

Disagree, watching the match you could definitely tell in the early going that Novak was still feeling his short rest from the semis. Of course he still had plenty in the tank and once he warmed up, loosened the muscles, and had a little adrenaline pumping it was pretty much all even.

Id dont think it would have been a demolition if Novak had the same rest but Novak may have won that first set.

I think that's right, actually. Novak had a hard time getting his legs moving and his shorter rest and more grueling semi certainly affected him quite negatively in the final. Despite not being in his best physical condition and playing significantly below his top form, he was able to get the job done -- albeit, he was on the ropes in the 5th. Still though, it was a wonderful triumph of heart and will and his outstanding superior mental strength in the match-up did pay some dividends in the end. It reminds me of Nadal vs Fed but Nadal is more willing to fight.

[Nathaniel_Near]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Exactly. Don't you have an MJ gif that you can use to describe this pathetic thread? Lol.

LOL. You're so cool.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel_Near

Lol. Djokovic would have definitely been fresher, he needed a set to get his legs going and to mug it up towards the end of set 4 just for Nadal to fall to his knees in glory and pride, after which Djokovic prolonged his agony before taking him to clutch school.

Do you also believe that Nadal was exhausted in the Madrid final in 2009 after his gruelling semi that he played the day before? I have a feeling that your tune is going to change when it comes to that match.

And FrankenCvac was not tired. If that excuse doesn't fly for Nadal,it does not fly for FrankenCvac.

[Nathaniel_Near]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Do you also believe that Nadal was exhausted in the Madrid final in 2009 after his gruelling semi that he played the day before? I have a feeling that your tune is going to change when it comes to that match.

And FrankenCvac was not tired. If that excuse doesn't fly for Nadal,it does not fly for FrankenCvac.

I would certainly have to agree, Nadal was tired after his Madrid 2009 semi and he could have certainly arrived to the final in better condition!

Nole was in a similar spot to him, Nadal put him through hell but Nole came out the other side a winner. Kudos to both warriors. Nadal needs to go back to clutch school though, preferably in Serbia.

Yours sincerely,

Captain Objective

[Netzroller]

Originally Posted by zacinnc78

.....it wouldve been another demolition job .People,dont fool yourselves into thinking Nadal has Djoker"figured out".Djoker was alot more tired and still managed to win over his new pigeon.

Yeah, the last time Nole went very well rested into a top match he played Federer at the FO and lost. Then apparently it was he was too rested and had lost his rythm...

But now we even have to find excuses after he matches he won

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel_Near

I would certainly have to agree, Nadal was tired after his Madrid 2009 semi and he could have certainly arrived to the final in better condition!

Nole was in a similar spot to him, Nadal put him through hell but Nole came out the other side a winner. Kudos to both warriors. Nadal needs to go back to clutch school though, preferably in Serbia.

Yours sincerely,

Captain Objective

haha well done, you showed Doomsday Cassandra Nostradamus Clarky who is so defensive so assumes everyone is biased against nadal. I also think nadal was tired in the Madrid match, although still proud that Federer did not find a way choke the match

Nadal was likely a bit tired in the AO 2009 Final as well, but playing against Federer tired is better than playing against Nadal tired like Djokovic had to, because Federer is not going to engage you in 30+ shot rallies. In Madrid nadal didn't look up for it, in Australia he knew a slam final is a different matter and that tiredness didn't effct him. Novak didn't look effected once he lost the first set and he had been warmed up and then shocked into action. From then on his mind ignored what his body was feeling, and apart from a laspse in the end of the 4th set/beginning of the 5th, he was solid. But I'm sure he was effected by the long semi a bit.

[MichaelNadal]

Originally Posted by Netzroller

Yeah, the last time Nole went very well rested into a top match he played Federer at the FO and lost. Then apparently it was he was too rested and had lost his rythm...

But now we even have to find excuses after he matches he won

[OddJack]

At 5-3 on the fourth that match shouldve been ended.

Now that its a 6 hr match people say..ahhhh Nadal is getting closer...

Novak knows this too, I bet he cant wait for a str8 set in IW if they meet again.

[devila]

lololololololol

[devila]

daddy federer needed a hushing after he said djoker was "unimpressive" and being lucky again.

master djoker was trying to save match points as he did against federer. we've realized that federer and nadal don't win 5 setters when they face match points.

bow down to the goat djoker....

[kishnabe]

Djokovic would have lost in straights.....being too much rested would throw his digestive system to haywire. Reason why he lost at RG last year.

[achokshi99]

I agree, the real final was the Murray/Djoker match, I think either would have beaten Nadal. But Murray came away with a great AO and I think he's got Djoker's number soon this year.

Originally Posted by zacinnc78

.....it wouldve been another demolition job .People,dont fool yourselves into thinking Nadal has Djoker"figured out".Djoker was alot more tired and still managed to win over his new pigeon.

[achokshi99]

No Fabio resulted in 4 days off last year, big difference.

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Djokovic would have lost in straights.....being too much rested would throw his digestive system to haywire. Reason why he lost at RG last year.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by zacinnc78

.....it wouldve been another demolition job .People,dont fool yourselves into thinking Nadal has Djoker"figured out".Djoker was alot more tired and still managed to win over his new pigeon.

Neither Djokovic or Nadal were tired. They both have "aids" to help them recover more quickly. Know what I mean?

[DjokovicForTheWin]

Originally Posted by zacinnc78

.....it wouldve been another demolition job .People,dont fool yourselves into thinking Nadal has Djoker"figured out".Djoker was alot more tired and still managed to win over his new pigeon.

Quoted for truth. This is what I've been saying all along. Nadal is delusional if he thinks he's figured anything out. Fresh Djoker would have destroyed Nadal. If anything, the beating are going to be worse than 2011.

LOL, it's amazing how history repeats itself. Federer at one point says he's figured out Nadal and the beatings just got worse. The difference was Fed was no longer prime after that. Nadal is still peak it's only downhill from here.