Llodra fined.

[lbjames23]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

The remarks that the Chinese agency quotes Llodra as saying have been partially denied by him.

His words were, according to him, as follows:

Je suis allé présenter mes excuses aux Chinois par l'intermédiaire de ce journaliste, mais on s'est mal compris tous les deux. Je ne lui ai pas dit ce qu'il a rapporté. Je lui ai dit: "Qu'est ce qu'il faut que je fasse pour vous prouver que je ne suis pas raciste? Il faut que je fasse l'amour à une Chinoise?" Ce n'était pas péjoratif, c'était une forme de respect."

His obviously annoyed response to a question as to whether or not he was a racist was:

What do I have to do to prove to you I am not a racist?


Make love to a Chinese woman!

This was what the Chinese agency has him saying:

"I love Chinese — I can totally make love with a Chinese girl."

On the face of it, Llodra's account sounds more plausible. The Llodra incident demonstrates the perils of kangaroo courts based on partial and inaccurate reporting.

is it me or his apology makes it even worse. and he don stand a chance for getting an Asian woman. yeah, but sure thing he s gonna be boooed like crazy if he ever goes to that shanghai master 1000 again.

[Bartelby]

Llodra doesn't want any kind of woman other than his wife.

[lbjames23]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

Llodra doesn't want any kind of woman other than his wife.

you have no idea about french do you.

[jackson vile]

Some of these French people seem to be extremely angry and eager to blame everything and anything on someone.

[Bartelby]

You're the one who has demonstrated no idea of French.

I'm open to an alternative understanding of what he claims to have said.

Until you produce one you're not worth the time of day.

Originally Posted by lbjames23

you have no idea about french do you.

[rommil]

Originally Posted by jackson vile

Some of these French people seem to be extremely angry and eager to blame everything and anything on someone.

That makes you one then

[tlm]

Who cares he did not say anything that bad, you ever notice it is only racism when a white guy says something like this.

[lbjames23]

no you are the one.
and who do you think you are to be "open to an alternative understanding of what he claims to have said" ?? you think anyone d care ?
you r just a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Bartelby

You're the one who has demonstrated no idea of French.

I'm open to an alternative understanding of what he claims to have said.

Until you produce one you're not worth the time of day.

[Bartelby]

There's another translation in the thread on Llodra's apology so you best consult it in order to write in an informed manner.

Originally Posted by lbjames23

no you are the one.
and who do you think you are to be "open to an alternative understanding of what he claims to have said" ?? you think anyone d care ?
you r just a waste of time.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

1. Ferocity is the right word given the minor nature of the offence.

It was racism. Not exactly a minor thing. Oh, and sexism too. But no big deal, who cares, right?.

2. The sum was around 20% of his earnings which is reasonable.

3. You've completely missed the misogynistic nature of his remarks as has everyone who has commented.

4. I did not say what he said is ok. I said there were more serious issues of racism in the world to tackle.

And I answered to that already. Look above.

5. I don't believe in zero tolerance policing as it is racist in practice.

How?.

6. It's best to keep politics and sport separate, which is not an opinion people talking endlessly about the Llodra outrage share.

"Politics". Nice PC language. I guess all racism and sexism should just be tolerated then, since we shouldn't mix sports and politics...

[lbjames23]

So you do not understand french (well, it s ok), but your main problem is that you pretend to not understand ENGLISH !!!
You can put all the big words in your bag now. people like you have no shame.

Originally Posted by Bartelby

Being Jewish or American has nothing to do with race.

Llodra said nothing equivalent to the expression you quote.

Indeed, we have little certain evidence of what he did say.

What little 'evidence' there is indicates misogyny.

[lbjames23]

Originally Posted by Cindysphinx

+1.

I am amazed that folks have so much difficulty with this concept. If you drag a person's race/ethnicity into a dispute having nothing to do with race in an effort to put them down, you are being racist.

Honestly. Do you think you can get into a dispute with somebody and toss out something like "Dirty Jew" and not have a problem?

It is not a defense that the person is actually the race or ethnicity that you selected. It's that you are bringing it up to disparage the person.

Here s a candid explaination we be been looking for. I know I d not feel right if I m called "w*ite tr***" by any body.

[lbjames23]

Originally Posted by rommil

That makes you one then

oh please dont make me one of em, no one wants to be french and u no it.

[Princeofwails]

What really gets me is how self-centered someone and others like him can be. I would consider it a blessing to be able to enjoy the pro life and make cash while having all that fun. Let him struggle to find a real job and he'll see real fast what a gift he has and is crapping all of it and everyone in his way.

[Terre Battu]

I'm not sure what the circumstances were but any fan acting like a jack ***, no matter what color they are deserve verbal abuse.

[lbjames23]

Originally Posted by Terre Battu

I'm not sure what the circumstances were but any fan acting like a jack ***, no matter what color they are deserve verbal abuse.

if you r not sure what went on during that match, then you should not put your pointless comments here.