Biomimetic Max 200G

[TexasTennisbum]

Tried asking the following in an original thread, but maybe posting here will do the trick...
Hello all,
I am giving up my year love affair with the Head Prestige Pro, I played 6 days straight last week and it began to dominate my arm.

These rackets I've tested and dismissed as not a good replacement for me:
1. Prestige MP
2. Radical Pro

The Dunlop BMax 200g and Wilson BLX 6.1 95 two I am considering, any other suggestions on demos?

Dunlop BMax 200g likes:
a. Serve placement
b. one handed backhand comfort and control
c. volleys
d. arm

Wilson BLX 6.1 95 likes:
a. Serve power
b. Similar forehand plow as the prestige

Specs for both:
Strung:
Wilson 11.5 oz, Dunlop: 11.7 oz
Wilson SW: 306 Dunlop: 318
Wilson: 7 pts. HL Dunlop: 5 pts.
Stiffness: Wilson 62 Dunlop 65

I think I like the Dunlop more for maneuverability, even though looking at the specs that doesn't make sense, maybe I am ignorant of something.

Any suggested demos based on this feedback? Thanks in advance

[ccmtennis]

have you tried the donnay pro ones in either string pattern? It is definitely more user friendly than the 6-1 series and great plow for a OHBH, serves and volleys. Has a different feel overall but most folks seem to like it

[Doc Hollidae]

Has anyone customized their 200 Max to increase the stability and pop?

Debating between the PDR 2012 and customizing the Max 200.

[Doc Hollidae]

Double Post

[counterpuncher]

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

Has anyone customized their 200 Max to increase the stability and pop?

I tried about 2g at 12 and it felt better but too sluggish for my liking. I have now taken that off and have added about 2 grams lead at each of 10 and 2 and am eagerly awaiting my next hit.

[Doc Hollidae]

Originally Posted by counterpuncher

I tried about 2g at 12 and it felt better but too sluggish for my liking. I have now taken that off and have added about 2 grams lead at each of 10 and 2 and am eagerly awaiting my next hit.

If I go with the Max 200, my plan is to remove the leather grip and then lead up the stick to 6 pts. HL, 11.9 oz, and a SW under 330 hopefully. I'm wondering if that will give me pop comparable to the PDR 2012.

[counterpuncher]

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

If I go with the Max 200, my plan is to remove the leather grip and then lead up the stick to 6 pts. HL, 11.9 oz, and a SW under 330 hopefully. I'm wondering if that will give me pop comparable to the PDR 2012.

I have gone down a similar path. Starting with a weight of 330g and an estimated sw of 325, judging from my other sticks. I then replaced the leather grip with a synth grip and overgrip plus 2g of lead at 12. This resulted in 328g and an estimated sw of 330.

Now I have lead at 10 and 2, a weight of 330g, and the sw feels slightly less. I expect this to play better for me, but I don't think the power level will be quite up to a PDR, unless i use a livelier string (multi) or string my PLII lower than my current 52/49 setup.

[Doc Hollidae]

Originally Posted by counterpuncher

I have gone down a similar path. Starting with a weight of 330g and an estimated sw of 325, judging from my other sticks. I then replaced the leather grip with a synth grip and overgrip plus 2g of lead at 12. This resulted in 328g and an estimated sw of 330.

Now I have lead at 10 and 2, a weight of 330g, and the sw feels slightly less. I expect this to play better for me, but I don't think the power level will be quite up to a PDR, unless i use a livelier string (multi) or string my PLII lower than my current 52/49 setup.

By chance do you know what the specs are stock, with a synthetic grip instead of the leather?

I realize I won't get actual PDR power, but I'd like something close to it. I guess a better comparison would be power/pop close to the Donnay Pro One or Head IG Radical Pro.

[TennisCJC]

Originally Posted by TexasTennisbum

Tried asking the following in an original thread, but maybe posting here will do the trick...
Hello all,
I am giving up my year love affair with the Head Prestige Pro, I played 6 days straight last week and it began to dominate my arm.

These rackets I've tested and dismissed as not a good replacement for me:
1. Prestige MP
2. Radical Pro

The Dunlop BMax 200g and Wilson BLX 6.1 95 two I am considering, any other suggestions on demos?

Dunlop BMax 200g likes:
a. Serve placement
b. one handed backhand comfort and control
c. volleys
d. arm

Wilson BLX 6.1 95 likes:
a. Serve power
b. Similar forehand plow as the prestige

Specs for both:
Strung:
Wilson 11.5 oz, Dunlop: 11.7 oz
Wilson SW: 306 Dunlop: 318
Wilson: 7 pts. HL Dunlop: 5 pts.
Stiffness: Wilson 62 Dunlop 65

I think I like the Dunlop more for maneuverability, even though looking at the specs that doesn't make sense, maybe I am ignorant of something.

Any suggested demos based on this feedback? Thanks in advance

I think you are refering to the blx ps 6.1 95 based on the SW of 306.

If you like thin beam rackets in this weight range, maybe try a volkl org 10 325 or 295. Also, the Dunlop bio 300 should be similar to the max 200g.

Also add 5-6 grams of lead to the head of the wilson blx ps 6.1 95 to get the SW up near the dunlop max 200g.

I play volkl 0rg 10 295 leaded to 12.1 oz, 335 SW, 6HL. I would demo pretty much what you are trying for my next racket - dunlop max 200g, dunlop 300, wilson ps 6.1 95. I would customized to get SW 330-335 and balance 6 HL.

The volkls are real easy on the arm and quite frankly hit the most solid ball of the bunch. the dunlop 300 has good pop due to the elongated head shape - longer mains. The wilson ps 6.1 95 is just cool - solid feel, super thin beam, flexy (feels like you can hold the ball on the stringbed) and nice paint job, but underpowered and needs stability.

All of these are top notch if you like thin beamed feel and relatively low power. But, honestly, if you get the swingweight up a bit and/or lower tension, they have plenty of power too.

[Murrayalmagrofan]

Originally Posted by TexasTennisbum

Tried asking the following in an original thread, but maybe posting here will do the trick...
Hello all,
I am giving up my year love affair with the Head Prestige Pro, I played 6 days straight last week and it began to dominate my arm.

These rackets I've tested and dismissed as not a good replacement for me:
1. Prestige MP
2. Radical Pro

The Dunlop BMax 200g and Wilson BLX 6.1 95 two I am considering, any other suggestions on demos?

Dunlop BMax 200g likes:
a. Serve placement
b. one handed backhand comfort and control
c. volleys
d. arm

Wilson BLX 6.1 95 likes:
a. Serve power
b. Similar forehand plow as the prestige

Specs for both:
Strung:
Wilson 11.5 oz, Dunlop: 11.7 oz
Wilson SW: 306 Dunlop: 318
Wilson: 7 pts. HL Dunlop: 5 pts.
Stiffness: Wilson 62 Dunlop 65

I think I like the Dunlop more for maneuverability, even though looking at the specs that doesn't make sense, maybe I am ignorant of something.

Any suggested demos based on this feedback? Thanks in advance

I would highly recommend the Slazenger Pro Braided. It's a true player's racquet and weighs 11.5oz strung. I wouldn't let the swingweight of 330 scare you off. The 3 racquets I have and 2 I demo'd are closer to 310 in swingweight. This racquet is very manueverable and I love it for my all-court style of play.

[Shangri La]

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

If I go with the Max 200, my plan is to remove the leather grip and then lead up the stick to 6 pts. HL, 11.9 oz, and a SW under 330 hopefully. I'm wondering if that will give me pop comparable to the PDR 2012.

My Max 200G is at 11.8 oz a bit under 325 sw 5 pts hl and my Pro one is 11.9 oz about 325 sw 6.~ hl. I dont think 5 extra sw on the 200G will have power level of the Pro One. It's plenty stable though.

[counterpuncher]

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

By chance do you know what the specs are stock, with a synthetic grip instead of the leather?

I realize I won't get actual PDR power, but I'd like something close to it. I guess a better comparison would be power/pop close to the Donnay Pro One or Head IG Radical Pro.

With swapping the leather for synthetic mine was 320g (strung with PLII 1.15) with a swingweight of about 320.

I also have a IG Rad Pro and the power level of that is higher. But if you add lead to the hoop of the 200G to bring the swingweight up to about 330, it would be fairly close.

[keepurpowderdry]

Originally Posted by Shangri La

My Max 200G is at 11.8 oz a bit under 325 sw 5 pts hl and my Pro one is 11.9 oz about 325 sw 6.~ hl. I dont think 5 extra sw on the 200G will have power level of the Pro One. It's plenty stable though.

About you saying the Max is plenty stable,

What type of hitters do you play with? I think knowing that would tremendously help me with my decision to purchasing the Max?

I hit 70% of the time with fast paced heavy hitters.My yonex 001 mid's (did not get pushed around. But just recently my 001 mids where stolen. Also My eye's are not what they used to be so I am looking for a bigger head size. Thanks for your time,

Tony

[Shangri La]

Originally Posted by keepurpowderdry

About you saying the Max is plenty stable,

What type of hitters do you play with? I think knowing that would tremendously help me with my decision to purchasing the Max?

I hit 70% of the time with fast paced heavy hitters.My yonex 001 mid's (did not get pushed around. But just recently my 001 mids where stolen. Also My eye's are not what they used to be so I am looking for a bigger head size. Thanks for your time,

Tony

Stability is one of the primary characteristics for me when picking a racquet, especially after stepping down from 12+oz. I dont usually hit with uber hard hitters, but the Max is very stable in its weight class, even compared to 12 oz racquets. TW also gave it good rating in stability. That said, I probably wouldn't expect the same level of mid frames.

[keepurpowderdry]

Originally Posted by Shangri La

Stability is one of the primary characteristics for me when picking a racquet, especially after stepping down from 12+oz. I dont usually hit with uber hard hitters, but the Max is very stable in its weight class, even compared to 12 oz racquets. TW also gave it good rating in stability. That said, I probably wouldn't expect the same level of mid frames.

Thanks..

I think I am going to get the Max for doubles and go ahead and get the Donnay Pro 1

for singles. I don't play that much singles in match play.

Tony

[Cup8489]

So I read through several pages of this thread.. what is the consensus overall on the frame? The specs look nice, does it have decent feel?

I was really considering picking one or two up with gut, but I don't want to get it if I'm gonna struggle with lack of power. That's the main concern, as I can handle the weight without issue.

Also, how does the grip compare to a Head extreme grip? As in, size and shape; I use a 4 3/8, but was thinking about going up a grip size.

[counterpuncher]

IMO the power level is fine for its spec. It is not Pure Drive/Extreme type power, but equivalent to say a Pure Storm or Radical. I can't imagine you having an issue if you are planning to use Natural Gut.

As for the grip, with the leather I find it runs true to size.

[Cup8489]

Originally Posted by counterpuncher

IMO the power level is fine for its spec. It is not Pure Drive/Extreme type power, but equivalent to say a Pure Storm or Radical. I can't imagine you having an issue if you are planning to use Natural Gut.

As for the grip, with the leather I find it runs true to size.

thanks, sounds like I need to get myself one

[ccmtennis]

Originally Posted by Murrayalmagrofan

I would highly recommend the Slazenger Pro Braided. It's a true player's racquet and weighs 11.5oz strung. I wouldn't let the swingweight of 330 scare you off. The 3 racquets I have and 2 I demo'd are closer to 310 in swingweight. This racquet is very manueverable and I love it for my all-court style of play.

How is the comfort like? I stayed away from it due to the stiffness index

[Shangri La]

Originally Posted by keepurpowderdry

Thanks..

I think I am going to get the Max for doubles and go ahead and get the Donnay Pro 1

for singles. I don't play that much singles in match play.

Tony

No problem.. for reference I took my Max 200G to my local pro shop to measure the sw, 330! So it will be a bit more stable than TW's average of 318 sw.