Juice 100 VS Pure Drive 2012?

[BigM]

Hey guys,

All of this talk for lighter more powerful frames has got me thinking about maybe trying a spin stick. I'm interested in peoples thoughts regarding the Juice 100 Blx vs the Pure Drive 2012. I have hit with both frames and enjoyed them both. I haven't had much experience so any input would be of a great help to me.

BigM

[roundiesee]

Strangely, this was my dilemma when I went to my local tennis store about 2 weeks ago; I ended up getting the Juice because I was advised that the PD was too stiff. The Juice played much softer than the published specs, and was not harsh on the arm at all. But I think if you are looking for more power, the Bab may be the better choice. Good luck!

[BigM]

The butt capp is kind of annoying on the Juice. How did you find it?

[darklore009]

I did tried the new pure drives. (my whole team has it cuz of coach) it is powef and stiff. But I still need to try out the juice 100. Will report back after I'm done playtesting the juice 100.

[BigM]

Originally Posted by darklore009

I did tried the new pure drives. (my whole team has it cuz of coach) it is powef and stiff. But I still need to try out the juice 100. Will report back after I'm done playtesting the juice 100.

Awesome thanks!

[NetNinja68]

Originally Posted by BigM

Hey guys,

All of this talk for lighter more powerful frames has got me thinking about maybe trying a spin stick. I'm interested in peoples thoughts regarding the Juice 100 Blx vs the Pure Drive 2012. I have hit with both frames and enjoyed them both. I haven't had much experience so any input would be of a great help to me.

BigM

A buddy of mine demoed both rackets and found them very similar as well and ended up going with the Juice as he found both racquets to similar power but the Juice was more comfortable. If you really like them both then either way you go you'll be happy.

[darklore009]

Finished playtesting the juice 100. Results is in. The pure drive and the juice is powerful. Control wise, goes to pure drive. For comfort and spin, goes to juice. Both are forgiving. So, I prefer the juice cuz of it's comfort.

[roundiesee]

Originally Posted by BigM

The butt capp is kind of annoying on the Juice. How did you find it?

No issues at all; I'm fine with it.

[BC1]

Demoed the juice tonight and was surprisingly pleased. Very powerful yet a surprising amount of control. Serves and overheads and groundstrokes where strongpoints. Volleys and touch shots not so much. Forgiveness and the ability to make good returns out of nothing surpassed the pure drive - which i didn't think was possible. It is a super stiff racquet but very muted and super stable. The tw reviewers said it was unstable against heavy shots, i totally disagree. I wouldnt call it comfortable, however my demo had super stiff and super old poly (babolat ballistic) strung at 61. An elbow destroyer for sure, but with different strings it should be fine. The feel is totally different then the pure drive. I believe the pd is a little less muted and actually feels more flexible. You dont hear that often about the pd.

After reading the mixed and so-so reviews i wasn't expecting much, but I actually liked the juice a lot and the performance was as good if not better then the pd or any other power tweener. The weight was perfect, around 11.4 and it seemed a lttle more headlight then the pd. Control was also better, except for touch volleyss and drop shots. I played a league match with the Juice (doubles, and won 6-0, 6-0, so that helps with my positive opinion right now for sure), and then demoed it and the pd 2012 side by side by playing singles. I'm not going to pick a winner out of the two, both are great. I will say imo the juice deserves a lot more respect and attenton then what it's getting, and if I had to pick one based on tonight alone, it would be the juice. However, i can see how it wouldnt be for everyone, you will definitely have to demo.

As far as the butt cap goes. I loved it! But i like big butts (on racquets) and this was probably the best butt cap ive seen. It allows you to grip lightly yet still have contol of the racquet without it slipping. I also found myself using a more western grip and putting more topspin on the ball with ease and success and i can only attribute this to the grip and balance of the racquet.

It seems like with the Juice, the new pd, the new warrior, and the pro open, there are some fantastic options out there, and all as good as the next. Just personal preferences.

[BigM]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the awesome feedback! I really enjoyed the Juice but I went with the Pure drive. Just something off the string bed gave me a bit more spin and that blasted massive butt Capp. Both are very easy frames to use and supply the user with awesome power and spin.

BigM

[ArliHawk]

Quick question (and I don't mean to hijack the threat): what is the difference betwen the Pro Open 2012 and Juice 100?

I am looking at something from Wilson to demo with the Pure Drive, so any information would be helpful.

[BC1]

^^^ I havent played with the pro open enough to give you a valuable comparison, but as far as specs go, the Pro Open is more flexible then the Juice (68 compared to a 72). I think that will be the biggest difference. The weight distribution is also slightly different, and the juice has a 16x18 pattern and the pro open a 16x19. You "should" get a little more control out of the Pro Open. Power wise I think they will be about the same. I also am interested in a direct comparison of these two.

[Prostaffer]

My friend switched had the pro open and liked the juice a lot. Said it had better spin and volleys than her pro open. She ended up with the steam ha.

I was town between the pure drive and juice also. I had a roddick GT that was just too stiff.

The juice hands with heavy balls just fine. I liked the way it worked with a one handed backhand better than the PD. Lopez style haha. I'm torn between my old two hander and the one hander i've had the past few years. What better way to frustrate myself than play a racquet that works for both right?

[BC1]

I'm torn between three - the PD, the Juice, and the Warrior. If I played with the Pro Open some more I'm sure I could add that to the list. I think all four of these will work equally well, and they can all be altered to suite anyone's game by changing the string set-up to whatever is needed - more power, more comfort, or more control.

[BigM]

The PD for me felt very refined as in it had no rough edges at all. It plays very smooth considering it's stiffness. The Juice is dynamite at net but overall I found the PD to feel much more stable and allowed me to have more control against the big hitters.

[BC1]

Originally Posted by BigM

The PD for me felt very refined as in it had no rough edges at all. It plays very smooth considering it's stiffness. The Juice is dynamite at net but overall I found the PD to feel much more stable and allowed me to have more control against the big hitters.

I agree 100% about being refined and contollable. However i found my shots more powerful and i had more winners with the juice, for some reason i was playing more aggressively and therefore better with the juice. I played tonight with the pd again, and it felt very good and i played well. I cant decide between the two. My goal is to pick one and then have a runoff with warrior.

[keithfival]

Originally Posted by BigM

The PD for me felt very refined as in it had no rough edges at all. It plays very smooth considering it's stiffness. The Juice is dynamite at net but overall I found the PD to feel much more stable and allowed me to have more control against the big hitters.

I hit them both tonight, PD strung with poly, Juice strung with syn gut (so that could be a factor in how they played), but that said, I preferred the PD in every way except that it felt stiffer. I agree with the above about the PD, it felt perfectly calibrated, I felt like I could have played a match right away and not missed a beat. Amazing control, perfect feeling weight/balance, effortless serving, I was going for broke right away and not missing. It also has an amazing sensation when you blast a flat ball in the sweetspot, I can't quite describe it. I'm sure I could play my best tennis with it but I would be scared of the stiffness as I already have issues with that. It has a very solid and dampened feel but I would still be scared.

The Juice 100 was basically the exact opposite for me. Again, it could have been crappy syn gut strings but nothing felt good about it, I was spraying FHs, not getting any first serves in (PD almost all first serves in with no warm up), couldn't tell if I was hitting the sweet spot or where the ball would go. I kept looking at it thinking, what would anyone like about this?

In sum, if you don't mind a stiff racket and like to be aggressive I don't think you can beat the new PD. (Never tried the previous ones.)

[BC1]

^^^^ i just posted a reply on the other thread about the juice. Dont rule it out until you try it with poly like you did with the pd. It changes the racquet all the way around. Much better in every way and no flyers. I had the same experience you did with syn gut in it.

[Power Player]

Keith..use the pure drive with a softer string like rip control instead of full poly - problem solved.

any stick that needs full poly is potentially a trade in if you get injured anyway.

[BC1]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Keith..use the pure drive with a softer string like rip control instead of full poly - problem solved.

any stick that needs full poly is potentially a trade in if you get injured anyway.

PP, good point, and something I hadn't considered. You're winning me over with all your love for the PD and Rip Control. I have nothing against the PD. It has been my primary racquet for over two years, I have just been testing the waters with others to see if something may be better. The problem I am having with the new pd (2012) demo may be string related. It is strung with Prince xx spin at around 60. Control is good, comfort is ok, and it's solid, but doesn't seem to have the pop that my older pd had. I usually use alu power rough at a lower tension and I had been assuming that since the demo has a syn gut that it would be even more powerful, but that is not the case. I had thoght the seemingly lower power of the pd was due to the lower SW, but maybe with a different string set-up everything would be perfect. How is the power level with Rip?