Johnny Mac : the big four should fear Isner

[interjim]

Originally Posted by DjokovicForTheWin

Interesting, McEnroe just implied Sampras' ground game sucks.

Mac doesn't imply things. He says what's on his mind.

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by interjim

Mac doesn't imply things. He says what's on his mind.

Awesome statement!! Bravo.

[Marius_Hancu]

Anyway, just getting in IW in the SF is a great thing for him. Dangerous, yes.

[jgrushing]

Originally Posted by VOLLEY KING

Why isn't Isner a real serve and volleyer? He serves and then volleys.....am I dreaming?

Today's match against joker should be really interesting.....

Greatest serve on ATP vs greatest return on the ATP .

Isner only serves and volleys occasionally; his normal pattern is a serve and forehand. I think that's what he's seeking most of the time. I watched John since his college days at UGA.

He's certainly not a SV player in the mold of Edberg, Rafter, McEnroe, etc. I agree that he works toward shortening points but serve/put away forehand is his MO.

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by jgrushing

Isner only serves and volleys occasionally; his normal pattern is a serve and forehand. I think that's what he's seeking most of the time. I watched John since his college days at UGA.

He's certainly not a SV player in the mold of Edberg, Rafter, McEnroe, etc. I agree that he works toward shortening points but serve/put away forehand is his MO.

I'm sort of discovering him now ..... But every YouTube video ive seen him on he is at the net ..... Do you have any video substantiating your claim?

[Wilander Fan]

Originally Posted by VOLLEY KING

I'm sort of discovering him now ..... But every YouTube video ive seen him on he is at the net ..... Do you have any video substantiating your claim?

I would say Isner has a very similar game to Raonic.

[Paul Murphy]

Big serve and big forehand ticks two boxes for me but his movement is still an issue.
That win over Federer on clay was a shock and he's capable of more upsets like that but I just don't see him winning against the elite regularly enough.

[VOLLEY KING]

I think we are. Both right. He is a mix of both


From wikipedia:

Isner has a powerful serve, thanks in part to his 6-ft, 9-in (206cm) height he get a good angle, only Ivo Karlovic is taller among the current players.[38] Commentators[who?] have also praised his composure; in five consecutive third-set tiebreaker wins in Washington, he delivered huge serves when it mattered most.[39] Isner also has a very powerful forehand as well. On serve, Isner often goes for one-two points, a big serve followed up by a big forehand. He is also known to back up his serves with approaches to the net, though he does not strictly serve-and-volley. Isner's movement around the court is hampered by his body, and he is hurt by players who move him around the court. Isner's fitness has improved considerably over the years, and he displayed this during his win in the longest tennis match ever at Wimbledon against Nicolas Mahut.

[cellofaan]

He does often back his serve up by coming to the net, but from what I have seen, he usually doesn't do it by playing serve volly, but follows his second shot (often the forehand) to the net.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzlZnlpm7o

[cknobman]

Johnny Mac "All aboard!!!!"

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by cellofaan

He does often back his serve up by coming to the net, but from what I have seen, he usually doesn't do it by playing serve volly, but follows his second shot (often the forehand) to the net.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzlZnlpm7o

that was years ago. He serves and volleys now :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIR8...eature=related

[Jonny S&V]

Originally Posted by VOLLEY KING

that was years ago. He serves and volleys now :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIR8...eature=related

That's his strategy against one player, and a smart one on that. I mean, Isner's forehand is good, but it's not better than Nadal's groundies overall, so how do you take out a guy with amazing groundstrokes who likes to stay 10 feet back (on clay)? Take the angles away and make him come up.

Overall, Isner is NOT a S&Ver (coming from someone who dabbles in S&V), but I would consider him and all-courter (and the fact that you cited Wikipedia in a previous post does not help your legitimacy...).

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by Jonny S&V

That's his strategy against one player, and a smart one on that. I mean, Isner's forehand is good, but it's not better than Nadal's groundies overall, so how do you take out a guy with amazing groundstrokes who likes to stay 10 feet back (on clay)? Take the angles away and make him come up.

Overall, Isner is NOT a S&Ver (coming from someone who dabbles in S&V), but I would consider him and all-courter (and the fact that you cited Wikipedia in a previous post does not help your legitimacy...).

well ive shown a video...heres another....and an amazing one at that!!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpM3UTu3nGo

[Jonny S&V]

Originally Posted by VOLLEY KING

well ive shown a video...heres another....and an amazing one at that!!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpM3UTu3nGo

Not really amazing for that level. Ball hit right at them, they're gonna get it back (not necessarily for a winner like he did, but still).

You've been watching too many highlight reels. Try watching full matches. Then you'll see that he's not a S&Ver (he's great at mixing it up).

hilarious. the 5 star tennis analysts here say John Isner "only" has a serve. I guess forgetting that he beat Fed on clay over five sets and took Nadal to 5 at FO. Not bad for a guy who "only" has a serve. lol.

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by Jonny S&V

Not really amazing for that level. Ball hit right at them, they're gonna get it back (not necessarily for a winner like he did, but still).

You've been watching too many highlight reels. Try watching full matches. Then you'll see that he's not a S&Ver (he's great at mixing it up).

did you notice the commentator say "yet another serve and volley"?

[Jonny S&V]

Originally Posted by VOLLEY KING

did you notice the commentator say "yet another serve and volley"?

...you do know that all-courters S&V right? Or are you that dense?

[BeHappy]

His volleys aren't good enough to play that game. Especially on today's slow courts.

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by BeHappy

His volleys aren't good enough to play that game. Especially on today's slow courts.

it was good enough against Roger Federer on red clay and five tough sets against Nadal on red clay.....isner did better against Nadal than Fed.

[VOLLEY KING]

Originally Posted by Jonny S&V

...you do know that all-courters S&V right? Or are you that dense?

no need for the dense comment.

Of course I know that...Im a serve and volleyer.

Its a tough dostinction to make.

For example was Pete Sampras a serve and volleyer or an all courter?