Djokovic, Grieving and French Open

[tennis_pro]

I'll try to put this relatively straightforward:

Djokovic:


Grieving:


The French Open:

[jackson vile]

Originally Posted by nadal_slam_king

For there to be a 'next time' there had to be a first time. I don't even count tendintis as an injury by the way. It's a condition that Nadal constantly has. You won't ever find me using that as an 'excuse'. Tendinitis is part of who Nadal is. It is a constant.

Reality is that everyone has some kind of injury during the year, it is part of being a top player. A lot of the ****s try to ignore all of Federer's excuses but he is rather consistent with them, or he just takes his frustrations out on that player with a verbal attack.

[sportsfan1]

Nicely illustrated!

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

I'll try to put this relatively straightforward:

Djokovic:
http://www.tennisearth.com/photos/20..._Djokovic7.jpg

Grieving:
http://www.thehealthculture.com/wp/w...g/grieving.jpg

The French Open:
http://media.tenisziemny.info/news/org/306.jpg

[nadal_slam_king]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

I'll try to put this relatively straightforward:

Djokovic:


Grieving:


The French Open:

LOL you sound like a Federer fan hyping up a fantasy of Federer winning Wimbledon last year or the Australian Open this year. Djokovic had his year, but he is not on Nadal's level in the grand scheme of things. Nadal has a career of greatness. Djokovic only has a year of greatness.

[Numenor]

Originally Posted by jackson vile

Reality is that everyone has some kind of injury during the year, it is part of being a top player. A lot of the ****s try to ignore all of Federer's excuses but he is rather consistent with them, or he just takes his frustrations out on that player with a verbal attack.

I'm just curious, I have a question for you. Until you brought it up, this thread had nothing to do with Federer. Why do you bring him up in literally every post of yours? Is he your favorite player? It sure seems like it.

On topic, how a person deals with grief varies. Ultimately Djoker will come to terms with it, and I think he'll be a stronger player as a result.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by nadal_slam_king

For there to be a 'next time' there had to be a first time. I don't even count tendintis as an injury by the way. It's a condition that Nadal constantly has. You won't ever find me using that as an 'excuse'. Tendinitis is part of who Nadal is. It is a constant.

"Tendinitis is part of who Nadal is."

Quoted for truth.

Actually, I could add one or two other things but I hope Rommil will do the honours.

[nadal_slam_king]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

"Tendinitis is part of who Nadal is."

Quoted for truth.

Actually, I could add one or two other things but I hope Rommil will do the honours.

Hey DOG, I'm not pointing out anything new. Tendinitis is a constant, and has been with Nadal from the start. Tendinitis has also been with Roddick from the start. And Venus, and Serena. Constant. Part of who they are.

[Clay lover]

uhhhh yeah we know but no need to start a thread about it

[Readers]

Originally Posted by billnepill

Yeah, not as serious as parents splitting up

In a family like Nadal's, parents splitting is a bigger issue than death of a grandparent. Worse yet is it's an on going issue.

[namelessone]

Great, now we have *** on the boards again.

Makes me wish Nadal never won MC.

[oneness]

Originally Posted by namelessone

Great, now we have *** on the boards again.

Makes me wish Nadal never won MC.

So true.
I have him on IGNORE, I wish he doesn't get quoted too often .

[Sentinel]

In a family like Nadal's, parents splitting is a bigger issue than death of a grandparent. Worse yet is it's an on going issue.

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by oneness

So true.
I have him on IGNORE, I wish he doesn't get quoted too often .

Lawl, I've really worked him up now.

[Slice&Smash]

Originally Posted by nadal_slam_king

Hey DOG, I'm not pointing out anything new. Tendinitis is a constant, and has been with Nadal from the start. Tendinitis has also been with Roddick from the start. And Venus, and Serena. Constant. Part of who they are.

Hey Senti, he just called you a dog!!!!

You gonna let him get away with it??? What's this world coming to???

[Paul Murphy]

Originally Posted by fps

OK guys seriously, excuse? The guy just lost his grandfather can we talk like human beings with a modicum of respect for a sportsman who has to grieve while in the public eye?

Totally agree. What also should be remembered is how close he was to his grandfather.
Some people are just the pits.

[FlamEnemY]

Originally Posted by Readers

In a family like Nadal's, parents splitting is a bigger issue than death of a grandparent. Worse yet is it's an on going issue.

How do you know that?

[Gorecki]

Originally Posted by Readers

In a family like Nadal's, parents splitting is a bigger issue than death of a grandparent. Worse yet is it's an on going issue.

Things i Learned with the Nadal Fans :

• Divorce is Worse than death

[nadal_slam_king]

LOL nobody is criticizing Djokovic for grieving, rather the way he is speaking as if the final was all about his grandfather.

"I definitely don't want to take anything away from Rafa's win. He was a better player," Djokovic said. "But it's a fact that I just didn't have any emotional energy left in me."

"I've never been caught up in this kind of emotional situation before," Djokovic admitted. "I'm just happy to reach the finals really under these circumstances. It's been a very difficult week for me to go through mentally."

Calling Djokovic a douc*e-bucket has nothing to do with his grieving. Compare that to Nadal's parents divorcing, Nadal didn't even mention it to the media until months later. Not saying Djokovic shouldn't mention the funeral etc., but why go on about it? It's personal. Why not stick to talking about tennis the way Nadal always has? Especially after a defeat. Bringing the side-issues into it is rather lame.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by Slice&Smash

Hey Senti, he just called you a dog!!!!

You gonna let him get away with it??? What's this world coming to???

For me that's the biggest compliments. (Sends a huge hug to ***)

Gorecki/FlamEnemy, we are comparing death of a grandparent to parent's divorce.

Usually a parent's divorce is preceded with a lot of fighting and tension, and this itself is known to affect children adversely. There are enough cases of divorce and parental conflict for us to know the impact.

otoh, we don't know how close Joker was to this grandpa. I've been asking my family here if they know anyone close to their grandparents and how they were affected by the loss. I've not really come up with any examples of being affected for more than a couple of days. Certainly not the kind of damage that divorce can do.

my dear NSK, a divorce in the family is not something you want to publicize, so don't expect Nadal to immediately declare it. Whereas news of Nole's GP's demise came to him on-court (IIRC). It was already known before he talked of it in the presser, so people would ask him how he was affected.

I don't think we should be comparing the two cases and the reactions, etc.

[Fedex]

Originally Posted by 5555

French Open starts in 5 weeks

"What are the stages of grief?
When people talk about the stages of grief, they most often are talking about the 5 stages of grief identified by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross...
...How long does grief last?
You'll probably start to feel better in 6 to 8 weeks."
http://familydoctor.org/familydoctor...er-losses.html

One of the best ways of coping with grief is distraction.
He might throiw himself all the more into tennis and become better than he already is.
He did manage to get to the final beating Dolgo, Haase and Berdych!
Distraction seems to be helping.

[Fedex]

Originally Posted by billnepill

Yeah, not as serious as parents splitting up

Originally Posted by Readers

In a family like Nadal's, parents splitting is a bigger issue than death of a grandparent. Worse yet is it's an on going issue.

Originally Posted by Gorecki

Things i Learned with the Nadal Fans :

• Divorce is Worse than death

I've experienced both divorce and death of close family member, and I can tell you, from personal experience, that divorce was right up there.
In a way it was even more traumatic and destructive.
When someone close is dying it brings the whole family and all your friends together.
Divorce can split all that assunder.
Divorce with kids involved is horrendous.
If the 'kids' aren't kids though but adults, I believe the pain is not as bad.