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Old 05-02-2012, 07:47 AM   #21
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Dominic Inglot, England, played at UVA now 141 in doubles playing with Treat Huey, Philipines and also from UVA, currently 44 in doubles.

For what it's worth, Huey is as American as they come, from Alexandria, Va.

His mother is from the Philippines. He's listed as Philippines now, so that he can play Davis Cup. Plus, their federation helps out with some expenses.

Another Philippines Davis Cupper is Ruben Gonzales, a small town Indiana kid who played at Illinois. He's been playing mostly futures this year.
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For what it's worth, Huey is as American as they come, from Alexandria, Va.

His mother is from the Philippines. He's listed as Philippines now, so that he can play Davis Cup. Plus, their federation helps out with some expenses.

Another Philippines Davis Cupper is Ruben Gonzales, a small town Indiana kid who played at Illinois. He's been playing mostly futures this year.
great idea for players with foreign heritage to play Davis Cup for parent's home country ,they would never get a chance to do otherwise.. play a few more years after college,make some contacts,get ready for real life down the road..
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One of the worst decisions ever! Sad thing is he was happy and doing well in school. He was pushed to turn pro by his family.
I agree. He was always fun to watch and seemed like he was really enjoying it there.

Most people don't know that Sekou is a scratch golfer and could easily get a golf scholarship.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:07 AM   #24
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James Cluskey, Ireland went to LSU and is currently top 300 in doubles.
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For what it's worth, Huey is as American as they come, from Alexandria, Va.

His mother is from the Philippines. He's listed as Philippines now, so that he can play Davis Cup. Plus, their federation helps out with some expenses.

Another Philippines Davis Cupper is Ruben Gonzales, a small town Indiana kid who played at Illinois. He's been playing mostly futures this year.
Thanks and smiling at "as American as they come". Lots of mileage there haha
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:44 AM   #26
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great idea for players with foreign heritage to play Davis Cup for parent's home country ,they would never get a chance to do otherwise.. play a few more years after college,make some contacts,get ready for real life down the road..
It may be good for the players, however I don't really like the idea of players playing for a country that they did not grow up in, they don't currently live there, did not train there and the only connection that they have is one of their parents is from that country.
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It may be good for the players, however I don't really like the idea of players playing for a country that they did not grow up in, they don't currently live there, did not train there and the only connection that they have is one of their parents is from that country.
Why not? The U.S. college system gives scholarships to international students to play tennis. For some low ranked kid who has no chance of cracking his DC team, what the difference will it make?

Alex Bogomolov U.S. citizen recently decided to play DC for Russia. The USTA made him repay them for the support they provided him. I believe the amount was $75,000.
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It may be good for the players, however I don't really like the idea of players playing for a country that they did not grow up in, they don't currently live there, did not train there and the only connection that they have is one of their parents is from that country.
real life .. you take what ever is given to you... if other countries are so hard up to give you a free ride on DC team why not.. it's not like these players have a real chance to beat the USA team,if they were really that good ,I'm sure they would rather play for team USA .. this is professional sports ..it's just mere entertainment... extending your sports life expectancy to entertain people who would support you,I see nothing wrong with that ,,it's not like they are expected to save the free world..
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Why not? The U.S. college system gives scholarships to international students to play tennis. For some low ranked kid who has no chance of cracking his DC team, what the difference will it make?

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What is the purpose of DC? It is an international competition of tennis between countries. Someone who is not a citizen, did not grow up in a country and does not currently reside there IMO should not be a representative of that country in international competitions. True it may not make any difference in the big picture" of outcomes since these are usually weak tennis countries, but it violates the spirit of the competition. If Indonesia plays a DC match against the Phillipines and their opponents are all US citizens that are basically Americans, that only show up in the Phillipines when there is a match, did Indonesia really play the Phillipines or a low level American squad? Is that really a match between 2 countries or a match between one country and basically foreign mercenaries?

US college competition is between colleges. Citizenship is irrelevant. International students have been in the US basically for its entire history. I don't see how having foreign students on scholarship is any way related.

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It may be good for the players, however I don't really like the idea of players playing for a country that they did not grow up in, they don't currently live there, did not train there and the only connection that they have is one of their parents is from that country.
Robert Farah...Canadian born played US College Tennis for SC, now represents Colombia in DC

This happens in the olympic too..didnt we(The US) take Bernard Lagat from Kenya, who was born an raised in Kenya, I believed competed for Kenya? If its allowed to happen at the olympic level and the olympic committee is okay with it...
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Robert Farah...Canadian born played US College Tennis for SC, now represents Colombia in DC

This happens in the olympic too..didnt we(The US) take Bernard Lagat from Kenya, who was born an raised in Kenya, I believed competed for Kenya? If its allowed to happen at the olympic level and the olympic committee is okay with it...
Barnard Lagat came to the US in 1998, lives here and has been a naturalized citizen since 2004. He started competing for the US after that. I am completely ok with this. If somebody moves to another country, resides there and becomes a citizen there is no problem in my view.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:32 AM   #32
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Barnard Lagat came to the US in 1998, lives here and has been a naturalized citizen since 2004. He started competing for the US after that. I am completely ok with this. If somebody moves to another country, resides there and becomes a citizen there is no problem in my view.
It is all over though man..i feel you...I mean we have tons of people come to the US to train and compete for their country of origin, Sharapova i believe was a bollettieri kid? Not exactly sure if she's a naturalized citizen but I do remember her playing Russian Fedcup previously..Nishikori was a bollettieri kid also, or to my knowledge trains there...playing for Japan
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Liezel Huber switched from S Africa to US
Martina Navratilova Czech to US
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:43 PM   #34
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It is all over though man..i feel you...I mean we have tons of people come to the US to train and compete for their country of origin, Sharapova i believe was a bollettieri kid? Not exactly sure if she's a naturalized citizen but I do remember her playing Russian Fedcup previously..Nishikori was a bollettieri kid also, or to my knowledge trains there...playing for Japan
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Not the same thing. If you come to this country and train and then go play for your home country. That is fine.

Martina and Huber both are US citizens and have live here for a long time. If you move to another country, become a citizen there, you have the right to represent it.

If you are born here and raised here, you do not reside in the country you are representing and are not a citizen there then why are you representing them?
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Dimitar Kutrovsky, recent UT grad, is up to 351 on the computer, I think he won a round at the SAP open earlier this year....
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:08 PM   #36
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...Nishikori was a bollettieri kid also, or to my knowledge trains there...playing for Japan
I like your logic.
I would like it even more for a kid like Maria Sharapova or Tommy Haas, whose nationalities are Russian and German, but let's be honest, they've been Florida kids for most of their lives.

Nishikori, too, but I feel he is Japanese. He still has the accent. I think accent governs it all, !
I can fake a French accent really well. Unfortunately, I would never have made their Davis Cup team. Maybe Martinique or Tahiti, haha.

Well, to each his own. As a college player who played some circuits, I totally see why they just want to play SOME Davis Cup or Olympics.

I also feel it's odd how one country's foreigners are better than another's haha. Or one college's European and South American players are better than another's European and South American players.
It's like the Dominican dudes on one MLB team are better than the Dominican dudes on the other. Different, of course...that's not nationalities, that's a professional league based in the US.

But that doesn't stop me from thinking it's funny. Like when a corporate softball team has a 'shippin' clerk who played AAA baseball, ahha.
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Not the same thing. If you come to this country and train and then go play for your home country. That is fine.

Martina and Huber both are US citizens and have live here for a long time. If you move to another country, become a citizen there, you have the right to represent it.

If you are born here and raised here, you do not reside in the country you are representing and are not a citizen there then why are you representing them?
If his parents were citizens of another country and he was born in the US, he is a dual citizen. Just like if an American couple moves overseas maintaining American citizenship, then has a child in a foreign country. The kid has dual citizenship at birth. Maybe even triple if each parent was a citizen of separate countries. As I recall from high school social studies.

As long as the paperwork is kept up with and taxes paid dually, it's legal. Not sure what the beef is with having him choose the DC Cup team where he can have an impact. To each their own IMO.

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Robert Farah #246: USC Trojan won his first tour level matches this week beating former Tulsa Hurricane Arnau Brugues and world # 38 Pablo Andujar in Barcelona

Daniel Kosakowski #315: UCLA Bruin has won 1 final and made 3 QF this year in futures. Beat Steve Johnson last June to win Sacramento Future. Last year won a main draw match in Los Angeles Classic.

JP Smith #349: Tennessee Vol has won 1 future made 2 finals and made 2 Challenger QFs.

Rhyne Williams #365: Tennessee Vol plays Ryan Sweeting tomorrow in QF at Savannah Challenger. Qualified for Indian Wells and lost 6-4 in the 3rd to #86 ranked Frederico Gil.

Blake Strode #384: Arkansas Razorback plays Peter Polansky tomorrow in QF at Savannah Challenger. Won 2 Futures in last year.

Tennys Sandgren #404: Tennessee Vol has won 4 futures in the last 9 months including one last week. Will be around 360 next week

Sanam Singh #446: Virginia Cav won back to back to back futures in India recently.

Amazing that Tennessee had 3 players in the current top 400 and couldn't make it past the quarterfinals last year. Feel free to add to the list for other players that you remember that went pro in the last 2 years or so.
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Devin Britton has finally started playing better - he's into the semis of a Mexico futures this week. His record is 15-6 so far this year.
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