Mamba Premium Natural Gut - Review

[tyu1314]

Few days ago i recieved the replacement black premium natuarl gut they sented me, because the previous black premium gut snap when i was tensioning my third main.

I was planing to strung it up in full bed at 60lb, because i hated it at 55.The first half snap when i was pulll my second main.
I successfully strung the other half set @ 60lb, and hybrid it with nxt cross.

So, i bought one set of black premium gut, half set broke, they sented me an full replacement set,and the half set of the replacement set also broke.
I got what i paid for

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

... It's not like they don't warn you to not string above 56lbs...

[alidisperanza]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

... It's not like they don't warn you to above 56lbs...

Indeed but why would anyone listen?

[alidisperanza]

Originally Posted by gameboy

I have tried a ton of gut from VS to Global and I agree with this statement.

I would bet a lot of money, once broken in, 99% of the people out there would not be able to tell one gut string to the next in a scientific double blind test.

Gut is a gut is a gut.

No, gut is not gut, is not gut. And I guarantee I could tell you the difference; maybe I'm just part of the 1%

Originally Posted by CRWV

Got my racquet back strung with MPNG black at 54 in the mains and WC Scorpion in the x's at 52.

I'm assuming the guy who strung it hit with it a bit because he 1)told me he didn't know how I dealt with such an overly powerful stick (see sig) 2) there was already a bit of fraying in the sweetspot. He must have hit with it for about an hour (kind of a dick move).

No hitting partner available so I went to hit serves for an hour or two...

-ridiculous spin, awesome feel, didn't strike me as insanely soft but did feel quite lovely.
-Sweetspot feels higher up the stringbed than before...feels kinda odd...
-...really ridiculous spin...mind flashes back to the gut/msv cofocus playtest thread...he miswove a cross...(bout 5ish up from the throat, right at the bottom of the sweetspot) Not only did he misweave that cross, but he missed the hole of the grommet and wove it in the hole just outside of it (see:exo racquets).

20$, half a pack of Scorpion 16L and a half pack of MPNG wasted...I should see him tomorrow and I'm expecting him to redo the job with his own string. (If he offers something like Tonic/hurricane I'll be pleased and all will be well, If he offers something like full poly or multi I'll be not-angry but will not use him again, anything less and I'll be ::insert words you can't use on this forum:: )

Frustration aside, I think I've doomed my wallet to using gut

All of those complaints are ABSOlUTELY unacceptable as a stringer. You pay good money to have a FRESH racquet strung. He/she has no business playing with what's yours. Secondly. a misweave merits a free job or compensation. It's a botched job. Period.

I understand how sometimes it doesn't pay for the stringer to cut the strings and re-do it but in such a case, he should comp you the job-- strings and all.

[tyu1314]

How much fraying are you talking about?
I just strung one yesterday and not yet hit with,and there are few fraying on the string.
This happended to all three mamba natural gut i strung.

[tyu1314]

He told you how could you dealt with such a powerful racquet, maybe it is just this assumption, maybe he hit with this racquet before.

Are there ball fuzz on the string bed when he gave it to you?

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by tyu1314

How much fraying are you talking about?
I just strung one yesterday and not yet hit with,and there are few fraying on the string.
This happended to all three mamba natural gut i strung.

Yeah they to fray a lot. Luckily, most of mine are on the ends of the string, and when it's on the frame it's away from the sweet spot.

[Ramon]

Originally Posted by alidisperanza

All of those complaints are ABSOlUTELY unacceptable as a stringer. You pay good money to have a FRESH racquet strung. He/she has no business playing with what's yours. Secondly. a misweave merits a free job or compensation. It's a botched job. Period.

I understand how sometimes it doesn't pay for the stringer to cut the strings and re-do it but in such a case, he should comp you the job-- strings and all.

That's why I'm so glad I got my own stringing machine. I just can't trust anyone else to string my racquets.

For anyone out there with similar experiences, who is considering getting a machine just to do their own strings and do them right...get it! Even if it's under $200 for a Gamma X-2 or a Klippermate, you'll be better off with that than handing your racquet to an incompetent stringer.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

After ~ 30hours

Not bad at all.

[Power Player]

if you can't string over 56#s I don't see the point .it loses tension

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by Power Player

if you can't string over 56#s I don't see the point .it loses tension

I dont like gut above 56lbs, so I don't see the point. It's unplayable to me.

[tomseek]

I just tried a set of Mamba Premium NG. I received it a week ago so this is probably the "newer" version. This is also the natural color, not black. I usually play with Pacific Classic/MSV CoFocus at 54/50 on a 98 sq. in. racquet.

I strung the MPNG/CoFo at 55/50 b/c Say Chi says that this string is powerful. Man is this string powerful. I am going to have to restrung that racquet, but I think MPNG has to be strung around 60# to be equivalent to Pac Classic at 54#.

I've read multiple post here saying that people have snapped Mamba guts in their bag, while stringing, receiving it in the mail, stringing over 56#, etc. Personally, I haven't seen it, and I've strung up a lot of Supra gut. I've played with it quite a bit and I think Mamba guts are quite resilient.

I am going to string up MPNG at 60# to see if this thing will snap during stringing but I don't anticipate any problems. I will report back if it does.

By the way, I tried Mamba Supra NG/CoFocus at 54/50# & I can say that Pacific Classic is very slightly more powerful then Supra gut.

Tom

[tomseek]

Ok, so I decided to string MPNG at 59# instead of 60. Feels tight, but no problems stringing at all. I did have to use some baby oil when I was cinching up the knot.

This string is indeed dry.

Tom

[levy1]

Originally Posted by tomseek

I just tried a set of Mamba Premium NG. I received it a week ago so this is probably the "newer" version. This is also the natural color, not black. I usually play with Pacific Classic/MSV CoFocus at 54/50 on a 98 sq. in. racquet.

I strung the MPNG/CoFo at 55/50 b/c Say Chi says that this string is powerful. Man is this string powerful. I am going to have to restrung that racquet, but I think MPNG has to be strung around 60# to be equivalent to Pac Classic at 54#.

I've read multiple post here saying that people have snapped Mamba guts in their bag, while stringing, receiving it in the mail, stringing over 56#, etc. Personally, I haven't seen it, and I've strung up a lot of Supra gut. I've played with it quite a bit and I think Mamba guts are quite resilient.

I am going to string up MPNG at 60# to see if this thing will snap during stringing but I don't anticipate any problems. I will report back if it does.

By the way, I tried Mamba Supra NG/CoFocus at 54/50# & I can say that Pacific Classic is very slightly more powerful then Supra gut.

Tom

Tom, I just received some Mamba natural gut 16G. What is a good tension so it is not to powerful and how did you like it compared to the supra?

[tomseek]

haven't had a chance to hit it at 59# yet. I can only make the comparison of Supra/CoFo 54/50 VS Premium/CoFo @ 55/50. I can't really control the MPNG at all. The ball flies on me when I try to take a big swing. I really have to tone down my 1st serve to keep it in. It feels really soft, like a pillow on my arm. Keep in mind that this is not a fair review b/c MPNG @ 55# is definitely too low for me. I probably will hit with MPNG/CoFo @ 59/50 on Thursday. I'll let you know then.

Tom

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

I dont like gut above 56lbs, so I don't see the point. It's unplayable to me.

This doesn't make sense. Premium gut is at it's best above 60#s. Thats common knowledge. I know you have a 90 so you can get away with lower tension, but didn't you say you have not used premium gut, so therefore you wouldnt know how amazingly awesome it can be at that tension?

[2Hare]

Originally Posted by Power Player

This doesn't make sense. Premium gut is at it's best above 60#s. Thats common knowledge. I know you have a 90 so you can get away with lower tension, but didn't you say you have not used premium gut, so therefore you wouldnt know how amazingly awesome it can be at that tension?

Hahaha that's funny. Thanks for the laugh.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by Power Player

This doesn't make sense. Premium gut is at it's best above 60#s. Thats common knowledge. I know you have a 90 so you can get away with lower tension, but didn't you say you have not used premium gut, so therefore you wouldnt know how amazingly awesome it can be at that tension?

Alright, then tell me what am I missing out on if I'm perfectly happy with MPNG strung at low tension compared to the big daddy brand?

I understand the promise the brand name gut, they can be strung at higher tension. So for someone like me who cranks it at 55lbs, tell me what I'm missing out on as far as brand name's promise of higher tension.

If you say so and so gut plays softer/crisper/stiffer/durable and etc., that's a different story. But if you're coming at me regarding tension, I just don't get it.

[2Hare]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Alright, then tell me what am I missing out on if I'm perfectly happy with MPNG strung at low tension compared to the big daddy brand?

I understand the promise the brand name gut, they can be strung at higher tension. So for someone like me who cranks it at 55lbs, tell me what I'm missing out on as far as brand name's promise of higher tension.

If you say so and so gut plays softer/crisper/stiffer/durable and etc., that's a different story. But if you're coming at me regarding tension, I just don't get it.

hey man, one thing I've learned from internet is: Don't feed the troll!

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by 2Hare

hey man, one thing I've learned from internet is: Don't feed the troll!

I try not to make negative assumptions, there are enough self-righteous idiot players who do that for the rest of us.

But your advice sounds wise.