2012 Olympic trials

r2473 · 06-25-2012, 08:14 AM

Anybody else watching the US Olympic trials? Being laid up for the next few months, I've watched quite a bit of it so far.

If you are not from the US, can you explain how the olympic teams are chosen in your country if your system is different from the US trials method.

Really looking forward to the London games.

sureshs · 06-25-2012, 08:31 AM

I am watching them. I watched the men's synchronized diving (felt a little weird but there is nothing wrong with that I hope) and women's synchronized diving. These diving and swimming women have HUGE arms.

bezs · 06-25-2012, 12:11 PM

Can't watch it since i'm not from the States but it would be insane if Darra Torres does makes the swim team.

Sentinel · 06-27-2012, 04:06 AM

Please tell us how the US selection process is so we can tell you how ours is.

I remember reading about your process way back in comparison to the British process in the early '80s when Seb Coe and Ovett were selected even though they failed (or did not appear) in their countries trial.

They were selected based on experience and Coe went on to win medals. In those days, if you did not make it in the US trials, you were out (from what i vaguely recall) or can you still qualify.

In India, it seems that the number of qualifiers is low. So you can try to qualify at various meets. I don't think there is a specific Olympics Trials. Anyone who achieves by a certain date qualifies.

sureshs · 06-27-2012, 05:36 AM

It is similar. The athletes who do well in earlier international and domestic meets are invited to the trials.

That is how it seems to be in swimming. I don't think that will work the same for team sports like soccer.

hollywood9826 · 06-27-2012, 07:02 AM

For teams the US olympic comitee will select a coach and the coach has the say on who ison the team.

For non team stuff you have to have credentials to get invited to the trials. But if you dont finish hiugh enough in the tirls you have no chance no matter who you are.

Maybe relays are different for but for individual sports you have to finish high enough at trials. At least thats how I understand it.

r2473 · 06-27-2012, 07:45 AM

for track events, there is an "A" standard that is set by the international olympic committee. for example, maybe you have to jump 8-feet in the high jump at a recognized meet in a certain timeframe (probably within a year of the games). ony those meeting that standard can be on the team.

if there are more athletes meeting the "A" standard than can be on the team, then it comes down to how you do in the trials meet. often the top 2 or 3 in the finals race make the team.

one of the us shotputters made the team finishing 6th at the trials, but the guys finishing ahead of him had not achieved the "A" standard. he had done it at a previous meet.

Sentinel · 06-27-2012, 07:57 AM

^ Thanks, r2473,

US OG trials are perhaps the toughest of all (don't know about China now). If on that one day you are not fit, common cold, bad sleep previous night, etc you could lose your chance to be in the OG.

Is there any link ? I want to know which long distance runners have qualified. There are some runners being coached by Alberto Salazar. I want to follow their progress at the OG. I think one of them is called Galen Rupp. He trains with Mo Farah.

hollywood9826 · 06-27-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473

for track events, there is an "A" standard that is set by the international olympic committee. for example, maybe you have to jump 8-feet in the high jump at a recognized meet in a certain timeframe (probably within a year of the games). ony those meeting that standard can be on the team.

if there are more athletes meeting the "A" standard than can be on the team, then it comes down to how you do in the trials meet. often the top 2 or 3 in the finals race make the team.

one of the us shotputters made the team finishing 6th at the trials, but the guys finishing ahead of him had not achieved the "A" standard. he had done it at a previous meet.

I remeber some chic on ESPN got citizen ship to St. Kitts and Nevis and tried to qualify cucycling. She basically raced a bunch of races trying to accumlate enough points for the olympics to allow her in.

I think the same thing happened with the double amputee pistorious guy, they allowed him to compete if he quilfied. In 2008 he did not quilify and it doesnt look like he ran fast enough this year

r2473 · 06-27-2012, 08:11 AM

rupp won the 10K and qualfied for the finals in the 5K

http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calend...F/Results.aspx

best i ever did was about dead on 16:00 in the 5K. 10K i was around 36:00 cant imagine what it takes to run the times these guys do

r2473 · 06-27-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hollywood9826

I remeber some chic on ESPN got citizen ship to St. Kitts and Nevis and tried to qualify cucycling. She basically raced a bunch of races trying to accumlate enough points for the olympics to allow her in.

I think the same thing happened with the double amputee pistorious guy, they allowed him to compete if he quilfied. In 2008 he did not quilify and it doesnt look like he ran fast enough this year

yup. but you still have to achieve the "A" standard.

i think winter olympics went to this some years ago to avoid another "eddie the eagle"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/oth...ver-Games.html

Sentinel · 06-27-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473

rupp won the 10K and qualfied for the finals in the 5K

http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calend...F/Results.aspx

best i ever did was about dead on 16:00 in the 5K. 10K i was around 36:00 cant imagine what it takes to run the times these guys do

Thanks a lot

The 10000 says :

Double waterfall -- 16 inside, 8 outside

any idea whatt his means ???

r2473 · 06-27-2012, 09:35 AM

its how the race was started.

hollywood9826 · 06-27-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473

its how the race was started.

Is that like when the dudes have to stay in the starting lane for a certain distance and when they reach it everybody sorta collapses down to the inside lanes?

Im not smart enough for enough for that. It should just a straight flat 10,000 meters. So its like running 100 meters 100 times

r2473 · 06-27-2012, 10:33 AM

they collapse real fast in the 10k, but they can't all start in lane 1. the "waterfall" stagger is just a few paces

Ash_Smith · 06-27-2012, 11:13 AM

Here it varies so much by sport.

UK Athletics trials were last weekend. To guarantee a spot athletes had to finish in the top 2 of their event and have met the "A Standard" since April '11. Athletes who failed to make top 2 have to rely on a selectors pick, although there are lots of other factors to bring in around who has made the "A" and "B" standards etc. Complicated process!

Fortunately, in my sport it's all rankings based quails, top 48 in the world and you're in, unless there are four other athletes ranked ahead of you as we only get 4 places per division. Luckily we didn't have to make any selections as the 'right' number of athletes made the rankings cut-off.

Cheers

Drbob31 · 06-27-2012, 11:23 AM

Haven't been watching them, but been following the results as much as possible on the news.

hollywood9826 · 06-27-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

Here it varies so much by sport.

UK Athletics trials were last weekend. To guarantee a spot athletes had to finish in the top 2 of their event and have met the "A Standard" since April '11. Athletes who failed to make top 2 have to rely on a selectors pick, although there are lots of other factors to bring in around who has made the "A" and "B" standards etc. Complicated process!

Fortunately, in my sport it's all rankings based quails, top 48 in the world and you're in, unless there are four other athletes ranked ahead of you as we only get 4 places per division. Luckily we didn't have to make any selections as the 'right' number of athletes made the rankings cut-off.

Cheers

What sport? So if say the 15 of the top 48 were from one country that country gets 15 people in?

Ash_Smith · 06-27-2012, 01:25 PM

^^^Wheelchair Tennis.

Nope, depending on the tier of the country they would get a maximum of 4 spots per division, Mens, Womens and Quads (3 spots). We are a top tier nation so we get 4 men, 4 women and 3 quad places at the games.

Cheers

r2473 · 06-27-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

^^^Wheelchair Tennis.

do u think your athletes deserve equal prize money

when i watch some of the local wheelchair players, i always think there is no way in hell id do it. it looks so hard and so frustrating

06-25-2012, 08:14 AM	#1
r2473 Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,349	2012 Olympic trials Anybody else watching the US Olympic trials? Being laid up for the next few months, I've watched quite a bit of it so far. If you are not from the US, can you explain how the olympic teams are chosen in your country if your system is different from the US trials method. Really looking forward to the London games. __________________ “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

06-25-2012, 12:11 PM	#3
bezs Legend Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,945	Can't watch it since i'm not from the States but it would be insane if Darra Torres does makes the swim team. __________________ Statistics are like mini-skirts they give you good ideas but hide the most important things.

06-27-2012, 04:06 AM	#4
Sentinel Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The Past Posts: 23,351	Please tell us how the US selection process is so we can tell you how ours is. I remember reading about your process way back in comparison to the British process in the early '80s when Seb Coe and Ovett were selected even though they failed (or did not appear) in their countries trial. They were selected based on experience and Coe went on to win medals. In those days, if you did not make it in the US trials, you were out (from what i vaguely recall) or can you still qualify. In India, it seems that the number of qualifiers is low. So you can try to qualify at various meets. I don't think there is a specific Olympics Trials. Anyone who achieves by a certain date qualifies. __________________ Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.

06-27-2012, 07:02 AM	#6
hollywood9826 Semi-Pro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Havre de Grace, MD Posts: 492	For teams the US olympic comitee will select a coach and the coach has the say on who ison the team. For non team stuff you have to have credentials to get invited to the trials. But if you dont finish hiugh enough in the tirls you have no chance no matter who you are. Maybe relays are different for but for individual sports you have to finish high enough at trials. At least thats how I understand it. __________________ Touched by his Noodly Appendage

06-27-2012, 07:45 AM	#7
r2473 Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,349	for track events, there is an "A" standard that is set by the international olympic committee. for example, maybe you have to jump 8-feet in the high jump at a recognized meet in a certain timeframe (probably within a year of the games). ony those meeting that standard can be on the team. if there are more athletes meeting the "A" standard than can be on the team, then it comes down to how you do in the trials meet. often the top 2 or 3 in the finals race make the team. one of the us shotputters made the team finishing 6th at the trials, but the guys finishing ahead of him had not achieved the "A" standard. he had done it at a previous meet. __________________ “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”