Federer is a better player this year, should therefore win the US Open

[brickner_damage]

Last 2 years, had a combined 4 match points vs prime Djoko. Now Federer has improved, so should have the US Open this year, no?

[brickner_damage]

Even if Federer doesn't win Wimbledon, it's not a bad sign for the US Open (considering what happened the last 2 years, where he matched Djokovic completely at the US Open, after QF exits at Wimbledon).

[Andres]

Last 2 years he had 4 MPs against Djokovic.

This year, he lost in straights against him at FO.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by Andres

Last 2 years he had 4 MPs against Djokovic.

This year, he lost in straights against him at FO.

And Djokovic took out Federer in straight sets at the 2011 Australian Open. It happens. But never at the US Open..

[TheF1Bob]

[kishnabe]

2010 was a good loss....since Nadal looked unbeatable.

2011 was a bad loss.....cause Federer would have trounced Nadal in the final.

2012....Doesn't matter.....Federer Djokovic final. Revenge time.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

2010 was a good loss....since Nadal looked unbeatable.

2011 was a bad loss.....cause Federer would have trounced Nadal in the final.

2012....Doesn't matter.....Federer Djokovic final. Revenge time.

True, good chance of them being seeded 1 and 2.

[Apun94]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

2010 was a good loss....since Nadal looked unbeatable.

2011 was a bad loss.....cause Federer would have trounced Nadal in the final.

2012....Doesn't matter.....Federer Djokovic final. Revenge time.

Nope. Was never going to beat nadal in 2011. Nadal played great in the final actually.
Plus, if fed and nadal meet in the semi at uso, fed is toast...

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by Apun94

Nope. Was never going to beat nadal in 2011. Nadal played great in the final actually.
Plus, if fed and nadal meet in the semi at uso, fed is toast...

US Open organizers want Federer Nadal final. Thus they have no choice but to put Djokovic and Nadal in the same half.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

US Open organizers want Federer Nadal final. Thus they have no choice but to put Djokovic and Nadal in the same half.

That will be so weird to see (Djoko versus Nadal semi-final). Looking forward to it..

[jackson vile]

It has been a crazy year, you can't deny that. I don't see why Federer or anyone else can't make some more crazy **** happen, why not?

[brickner_damage]

But there haven't been any unexpected winners so far in the slams. Djoko won the slam he's won 3 times, Australian Open. Rafa Nadal won the slam he's won 7 times, Roland Garros. Wimbledon will likely be Djoko winning (defending champion). No surprises yet..

Given his drought, I think Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise, compared to Djoko or Rafa Nadal winning it..

[GodNovak]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

But there haven't been any unexpected winners so far in the slams. Djoko won the slam he's won 3 times, Australian Open. Rafa Nadal won the slam he's won 7 times, Roland Garros. Wimbledon will likely be Djoko winning (defending champion). No surprises yet..

Given his drought, I think Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise, compared to Djoko or Rafa Nadal winning it..

So I'm not sure why you think Fed is a better winner. Personal bias? Wishful thinking? Fed never took a set from Djokovic this year, and trumping Fed in straight sets makes Djokovic the better player. Match points mean nothing if you do not win.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

Last 2 years, had a combined 4 match points vs prime Djoko. Now Federer has improved, so should have the US Open this year, no?

What makes you think Federer has improved, my good Sir ? Which slam result is better than previous year ?

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by GodNovak

So I'm not sure why you think Fed is a better winner. Personal bias? Wishful thinking? Fed never took a set from Djokovic this year, and trumping Fed in straight sets makes Djokovic the better player. Match points mean nothing if you do not win.

What do you mean? You just quoted this:

"Given his drought, I think Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise, compared to Djoko or Rafa Nadal winning it.."

When did I say Federer is a "better winner"? I said Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise. Whereas Nadal/Djoko winning the US Open would not qualify as a surprise. What part of this don't you understand?

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

What makes you think Federer has improved, my good Sir ? Which slam result is better than previous year ?

The consensus in this forum is that Federer has improved. The consensus is more powerful than one man's opinion.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

What do you mean? You just quoted this:

"Given his drought, I think Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise, compared to Djoko or Rafa Nadal winning it.."

When did I say Federer is a "better winner"? I said Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise. Whereas Nadal/Djoko winning the US Open would not qualify as a surprise. What part of this don't you understand?

Hi ***, why is it that a five time champion winnning US Open a surprise while a guy who has one it only once, Rafa winning it does not qualify as a surprise? Could you please enlighten me?

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

Last 2 years, had a combined 4 match points vs prime Djoko. Now Federer has improved, so should have the US Open this year, no?

Djokovic isnt Federer's only potential obstacle at the U.S Open. Most likely he would have to beat both Djokovic and Nadal, and he hasnt beaten Nadal in any slam since 2007. A Rosol like miracle isnt going to happen everyday. Besides those two though there is also Andy Murray, Juan Martin Del Potro, Jo Wilfried Tsonga, and possibly Tomas Berdych as potential major threats, especialy to Federer.

Federer is playing better than last year overall, and Djokovic is probably playing less well, and Djokovic still is dominating his matches with Federer more than last year. So it isnt as simple as you make it out to be, things do always follow the A, B, C logic.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by Feather

Hi ***, why is it that a five time champion winnning US Open a surprise while a guy who has one it only once, Rafa winning it does not qualify as a surprise? Could you please enlighten me?

You talking to me?

If so, 2-year-drought. Any slam Federer wins would be a surprise.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Djokovic isnt Federer's only potential obstacle at the U.S Open. Most likely he would have to beat both Djokovic and Nadal, and he hasnt beaten Nadal in any slam since 2007. A Rosol like miracle isnt going to happen everyday. Besides those two though there is also Andy Murray, Juan Martin Del Potro, Jo Wilfried Tsonga, and possibly Tomas Berdych as potential major threats, especialy to Federer.

Federer is playing better than last year overall, and Djokovic is probably playing less well, and Djokovic still is dominating his matches with Federer more than last year. So it isnt as simple as you make it out to be, things do always follow the A, B, C logic.

Djokovic and Nadal are still the favorite for the US Open, no doubt about that.