Federer is a better player this year, should therefore win the US Open

[WhiskeyEE]

lol @ Nadal being a favourite at USO. He'll be lucky to make the 2nd week.

[GodNovak]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

What do you mean? You just quoted this:

"Given his drought, I think Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise, compared to Djoko or Rafa Nadal winning it.."

When did I say Federer is a "better winner"? I said Federer winning the US Open would qualify as a surprise. Whereas Nadal/Djoko winning the US Open would not qualify as a surprise. What part of this don't you understand?

Look at your title, and my condolence for your loss (of memory). Which part of the title you wrote don't you understand?

[Raging Buddha]

Originally Posted by Sentinel

What makes you think Federer has improved, my good Sir ? Which slam result is better than previous year ?

His four titles this year in comparison to one as the same point last year may be the criteria being utilised.

[Murrayfan31]

Fed has not improved.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by GodNovak

Look at your title, and my condolence for your loss (of memory). Which part of the title you wrote don't you understand?

No, you are just really blind. "Better Player" was in my title. Not better winner. Clearly since last year's US Open Federer has been a better player.

[GodNovak]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

No, you are just really blind. "Better Player" was in my title. Not better winner. Clearly since last year's US Open Federer has been a better player.

Cool, but even if he is better than last year, he still won't win, because he has to be better than Djokovic, which he is not.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by Raging Buddha

His four titles this year in comparison to one as the same point last year may be the criteria being utilised.

But Nadal fans only look at Slam results when judging Rafa and Fed, since Fed has not beaten Rafa at a slam in like a billion years.

If I am to understand these difficult matters:

1. when comparing head to head, only slam results are to be taken. Recent wins at WTF, and other Masters/500's etc are not relevant.

2. When comparing titles, then Olympics, Davis Cup, MC etc are to be taken, not Slam results (unless Rafa overtakes Roger's slam count).

Please use above objective criteria when answering Senti's queries.

[FlashFlare11]

Federer has not improved this year. He is not a better player. His movement is not what it used to be and he's no where near as consistent. What's helping him is a renewed resolve to win a slam and his all-out aggressive tactics are helping him do that. We'll see how the USO pans out when we get there, but for now, aren't we just beginning the second week of another slam which Federer is still competing in?

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by GodNovak

Cool, but even if he is better than last year, he still won't win, because he has to be better than Djokovic, which he is not.

If Federer has improved this year, that could be enough to convert a matchpoint (or to keep a lead). It's no fluke that he held 2 matchpoints last year (because he had 2 matchpoints the year before too). A thrilling 5-setter is the "norm" for the Federer Djokovic US Open matchup. Expect nothing less this year. And if Federer has improved (and if the forum observations are true and Djokovic has declined) then why can't Federer win the US Open this year?

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by FlashFlare11

Federer has not improved this year. He is not a better player. His movement is not what it used to be and he's no where near as consistent. What's helping him is a renewed resolve to win a slam and his all-out aggressive tactics are helping him do that. We'll see how the USO pans out when we get there, but for now, aren't we just beginning the second week of another slam which Federer is still competing in?

Yeah but I don't think Federer can beat Djokovic on grass. The surface is skidding enough to make Djokovic's shots too much to handle for Federer. I think Djokovic will win their Wimbledon semi-final, without a doubt.

[Murrayfan31]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

Yeah but I don't think Federer can beat Djokovic on grass. The surface is skidding enough to make Djokovic's shots too much to handle for Federer. I think Djokovic will win their Wimbledon semi-final, without a doubt.

Actually faster surfaces help Federer. WIth that said, Djokovic is just at another level. It really doesn't matter what surface they are on.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by Murrayfan31

Actually faster surfaces help Federer. WIth that said, Djokovic is just at another level. It really doesn't matter what surface they are on.

Nah, you watch, the Wimbledon semi will be really lopsided, while the US Open meeting will be as tight as hell. Federer can't play on grass anymore vs power shots, see Berdych 2010 and Tsonga 2011 (and Benn 2012, before Benn lost his mojo/physicality). Even if Federer is marginally better this year, he is still not great on grass when confronted with power. Djokovic has enough power to put Federer on the backfoot on grass. Whereas the US Open puts the ball in Federer's hitting zone.

[joeri888]

i agree with the thoughts that USO is Roger's best surface now and that he has a good chance to win it. A lot better than Wimby, even with Rafa out.

[tata]

Roger always seems a lot more aggressive at USO.

[brickner_damage]

I agree Federer at the US Open reminds me of the head honcho in a maximum security prison.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by brickner_damage

You talking to me?

If so, 2-year-drought. Any slam Federer wins would be a surprise.

Same logic,

The two year drought. Any non clay slam Rafa wins should be a surprise.

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by Feather

Same logic,

The two year drought. Any non clay slam Rafa wins should be a surprise.

Within the last 2 years Rafa Nadal won Wimbledon and the US Open (and was in 3 other non-clay slam finals).

But Federer had 2 matchpoints vs Djokovic at last year's US Open final so Federer is closer to beating Djokovic at the US Open (based on last year at least).

[Rippy]

I'm guessing brickner_damage is nadalslamking...

[Feather]

Originally Posted by Rippy

I'm guessing brickner_damage is nadalslamking...

Why would anyone open a topic about Roger Federer and US open when another major is happening?

[brickner_damage]

Originally Posted by Feather

Why would anyone open a topic about Roger Federer and US open when another major is happening?

It's a forgone conclusion that Federer won't beat Djoko here, so just looking at what is most relevant now for Federer (in addition to the Olympics)..