Rule Question on a Let Call

[TomT]

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

cmon, really?

never had a situation when someone's not 100% that the score's right and u go "we won first point with df, you won second point with putaway volley" etc. until u agree on the proper score? thought everyone had them every so often

in that situation callin ad in for 40-30 is deffo confusing. ur tryin to count 7 pts instead of 5, u'd get real lost real quick

All but 16 of my matches were played about 40 years ago. I don't remember ever having a score dispute. We were all in our 20's then, serious tennis nuts, and always called the score before beginning each point. I mean, if one is paying attention and keeping track, and calling out the scores, then how can one not remember something that happened minutes before?

[TeflonTom]

Originally Posted by tennis tom

Well ain't that the pot calling the kettle black!

hey brah, every1 find some stuff annoyin. i dont go round tryin 2 change other ppl tho. ppl wanna call ad in / ad out, i be cool with dat

Originally Posted by IA-SteveB

You find the standard annoying? I'd think your method is weird.

aint standard where i grew up brah. was always ad server / ad receiver. when ur playin u just call it in first person - my ad / ur ad.

never heard o ad in / ad out til i came 2 college. lot less intuitive so find it a bit annoyin. but then most stuff the usta does is pretty annoyin

[jswinf]

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

never heard o ad in / ad out til i came 2 college. lot less intuitive so find it a bit annoyin. but then most stuff the usta does is pretty annoyin

Kind of a jolt to see a word like 'intuitive' among the new-millenia-speak. I might have to take a course.

[IA-SteveB]

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

hey brah, every1 find some stuff annoyin. i dont go round tryin 2 change other ppl tho. ppl wanna call ad in / ad out, i be cool with dat


aint standard where i grew up brah. was always ad server / ad receiver. when ur playin u just call it in first person - my ad / ur ad.

never heard o ad in / ad out til i came 2 college. lot less intuitive so find it a bit annoyin. but then most stuff the usta does is pretty annoyin

Understood. I guess we all have things that annoy us. It just seemed strange that something standard was annoying to you, but I see where you are coming from. I have never heard people say my ad or your ad ... or brah for that matter. (unless you count watching Dog the Bounty Hunter)

[Orange]

What does brah mean?

The only brah I know is short for brassiere.

[BHiC]

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

hey brah, every1 find some stuff annoyin. i dont go round tryin 2 change other ppl tho. ppl wanna call ad in / ad out, i be cool with dat


aint standard where i grew up brah. was always ad server / ad receiver. when ur playin u just call it in first person - my ad / ur ad.

never heard o ad in / ad out til i came 2 college. lot less intuitive so find it a bit annoyin. but then most stuff the usta does is pretty annoyin

For the people who can't understand text-speak, here is my attempt for a translation -

Everyone has certain things that annoy them. I do not take it upon myself to change people, though. I find it perfectly acceptable if my colleagues want to call the score ad in or ad out.

Where I grew up, calling ad in and ad out was not the standard. The score was always called ad server, or ad receiver. And, when you are playing the match, it was very common to use the first person, and just say my ad, or your ad. In fact, I had never even heard of calling the score ad in or ad out until I attended college. I find this method a lot less intuitive, so it does at times annoy me. However, it seems as if most of what the USTA does is rather annoying.

Hopefully that helps the over 40 crowd

[tennis tom]

Nicely translated BHiC,

Maybe besides all the different language translation appps, there could be one for translating "text-speak". TeflonTom seems to know something about the game, he's probably just bored and having some fun.

[Baxter]

Originally Posted by BHiC

For the people who can't understand text-speak, here is my attempt for a translation -

Everyone has certain things that annoy them. I do not take it upon myself to change people, though. I find it perfectly acceptable if my colleagues want to call the score ad in or ad out.

Where I grew up, calling ad in and ad out was not the standard. The score was always called ad server, or ad receiver. And, when you are playing the match, it was very common to use the first person, and just say my ad, or your ad. In fact, I had never even heard of calling the score ad in or ad out until I attended college. I find this method a lot less intuitive, so it does at times annoy me. However, it seems as if most of what the USTA does is rather annoying.

Hopefully that helps the over 40 crowd

That reminds me of the Barbara Billingsley scene in "Airplane".

I had yet another let call controversy last night. Another USTA league doubles match. I was serving and thought the score was deuce, as did everybody else (seniors league, temps in the high nineties). I served and the returner smacked his return into the the top of the net. Right after his ball hit the tape he raised his hand and said "You just served to me, it's add out not deuce" I waited to see if everybody agreed and said OK, but according to the rules it's deuce now, not add out. That last point counted, even though I served it to the the wrong court." Our opponents argued that we should replay the point, which I know is wrong. We went with my ruling but when we ended up winning the game the returner called out,"Are you happy now?" He apologized after the match and he's usually a nice guy, but rule misunderstandings can be tough.

[CaldwellYSR]

Originally Posted by Baxter

I had yet another let call controversy last night. Another USTA league doubles match. I was serving and thought the score was deuce, as did everybody else (seniors league, temps in the high nineties). I served and the returner smacked his return into the the top of the net. Right after his ball hit the tape he raised his hand and said "You just served to me, it's add out not deuce" I waited to see if everybody agreed and said OK, but according to the rules it's deuce now, not add out. That last point counted, even though I served it to the the wrong court." Our opponents argued that we should replay the point, which I know is wrong. We went with my ruling but when we ended up winning the game the returner called out,"Are you happy now?" He apologized after the match and he's usually a nice guy, but rule misunderstandings can be tough.

He was trying to get two bites at the apple there. I had pretty much the same thing happen to me (as the returner) where I was confused but played it anyways. it was interesting though because the serving team attempted to replay the point and I had to be the one to tell them the point counted and to continue playing the next one :P

[Z-Man]

l0v1ng th3 t3fl0nt0m d14l3ct.

[TeflonTom]

Originally Posted by Z-Man

l0v1ng th3 t3fl0nt0m d14l3ct.

brah 1337 is entirely different

[Z-Man]

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

brah 1337 is entirely different

d0n't h4te, 4ppr3c14t3

[Wuppy]

Some moron was calling "ad-in" and "ad-out" for 40-30 in a recent match and I had no idea why. Now I understand.

It's idiotic. Call the correct score. Not the "equivalent" score.

[Z-Man]

Originally Posted by Wuppy

Some moron was calling "ad-in" and "ad-out" for 40-30 in a recent match and I had no idea why. Now I understand.

It's idiotic. Call the correct score. Not the "equivalent" score.

Don't you mean 45-30? I get so uptight when people use "equivalents".

[Baxter]

I played a 16 year old Japanese kid yesterday that spoke no English except for "advantage receiver" and "advantage server". It was his first day in the US. From now on that's how I'm going to call it, complete with the thick accent.

[Baxter]

Originally Posted by Wuppy

Some moron was calling "ad-in" and "ad-out" for 40-30 in a recent match and I had no idea why. Now I understand.

It's idiotic. Call the correct score. Not the "equivalent" score.

So anyone who calls add in at 40-30 is a moron and an idiot. I feel sorry for your playing partners, and you. This board never ceases to amaze me.

[CaldwellYSR]

Originally Posted by Baxter

So anyone who calls add in at 40-30 is a moron and an idiot. I feel sorry for your playing partners, and you. This board never ceases to amaze me.

Doing idiotic things doesn't make someone an idiot. Calling 40-30 ad-in is pretty idiotic though...

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by CaldwellYSR

Doing idiotic things doesn't make someone an idiot. Calling 40-30 ad-in is pretty idiotic though...

Why is it idiotic to call 40-30 "ad in"? It means the exact same thing. Anyone with a 2nd grade education can figure it out.

Calling 40-30 "ad out" would be idiotic. Because it makes no sense and is just wrong.

[sundaypunch]

Originally Posted by floridatennisdude

Why is it idiotic to call 40-30 "ad in"? It means the exact same thing. Anyone with a 2nd grade education can figure it out.

By this logic why not randomly call "ad in" 40-30? I'm with the "just use the correct score" group.

[Govnor]

This happened at my match today. I knew what he meant, no big deal. I'm a correct score caller, but it really shouldn't be something to get upset about.