How much are the Full Time Tennis Academies?

[Wuppy]

Still not sure why parents would send a kid to something like this. Hampers their education and the odds of going pro (and making a career out of it) are one in a zillion.

When I was a kid I played golf with a girl who was good enough to be on the boys' high school team. After college she won the Nancy Lopez award for best amateur woman golfer in the world. Then she injured herself in her second year on tour and retired. Now she sells flooring.

[chalkflewup]

I heard Stan Smith's place does a solid job with education but I suspect it differs from academy to academy.

[BHiC]

Originally Posted by chalkflewup

I heard Stan Smith's place does a solid job with education but I suspect it differs from academy to academy.

Yes, you have a lot of people training at Smith-Stearns there in Hilton Head, SC. They completely blew Van der Meer out of the water, as literally almost every good player down there has switched to Smith-Stearns.

[tennisconsultcom]

Originally Posted by Wuppy

Still not sure why parents would send a kid to something like this. Hampers their education and the odds of going pro (and making a career out of it) are one in a zillion.

When I was a kid I played golf with a girl who was good enough to be on the boys' high school team. After college she won the Nancy Lopez award for best amateur woman golfer in the world. Then she injured herself in her second year on tour and retired. Now she sells flooring.

That is interesting question. I guess these are some possibilities:
1. The player is really gifted by nature. He is born for tennis. His results are some of the best in his age division in the country and he definitely needs to have a highly qualified tennis coach and fitness trainer. He and his family want to see him become top 10 in the world.
2. The player is pretty good. He likes to play tennis and has good results. Both he and you dream about a professional career.
3. The kid likes to play and asks you to send him to a tennis academy (actually he just wants to leave the house and his parents). He is a teenager and you are glad to send him away.
And here is always possibility for college tennis.

[Soianka]

I would suggest taking your time and finding a good, energetic, knowlegeable private coach to work with your kids rather than a super expensive academy.

[tennisconsultcom]

Originally Posted by Soianka

I would suggest taking your time and finding a good, energetic, knowlegeable private coach to work with your kids rather than a super expensive academy.

Yes, it is always better. TA in most cases good only for really good players, and these players have individualized programs and huge discounts (often play for free). And they are used for promotion of course.

Also TA help to find a scholarship for their players. Most of them are really good in that.

[TennisNinja]

Originally Posted by 10ismom

http://www.imgacademies.com/_assets/..._2012_2013.pdf

Here you go. You just have to search through their website a bit.

Oh. My. God.

[tball2day]

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[Misterbill]

We are not an IMG family.

But...........but..........the value of D1 tennis is not only tuition, room and board. (I know the Ivies do not give scholys to cover this) It also includes free equipment, travel, training room/medical and "lessons".

I think I read somewhere that the true value of a D1 scholy to a top school is about $90k per year if you include tuition, room and board, equipment, travel, training room/medical, and "lessons", whether "group" or "private". Can't find it right now. So if anyone wants to call me on this I will not be able to prove it.

But I think lots of posters should be able to appreciate the concept and value of free coaching, travel, training room/medical, and equipment.

[tball2day]

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[barringer97]

Here's another question:

3 weeks at IMG during the summer for $5k

Or

6 weeks at your basic Nike Tennis Camp (let's say Stanford Nike Tennis Camp)

I believe that would be similar cost.

[tennisconsultcom]

Originally Posted by tball2day

90K per year is the right number, assuming of course you get a full scholarship to a school that provides at that level. I wonder how many a year out of Bolitierri get fulls. Ya don't hear much about the players in college from there, just the ones that are trying to go pro. Weil use to publish who went where and how much they got, which I found to be a bit too much information for my taste, not sure if IMG has ever done that. But if you have the $ and want to do it, why not?

To get this a player (especially) a boy should be very competitive like 5 stars, top 200 ITF level, at least. And think if tennis 20+ hours a week in college will help him/her to be a good student.

Too many "coaches" with BA in Economics, Political Science, etc. work as coaches because they were not able to get a good job after college. Actually, this is one of a reason of bad situation in American tennis. Coaches have to coach not "economists".

[Soianka]

Originally Posted by barringer97

Here's another question:

3 weeks at IMG during the summer for $5k

Or

6 weeks at your basic Nike Tennis Camp (let's say Stanford Nike Tennis Camp)

I believe that would be similar cost.

None of the above.

Unless you are just sending the child to camp for fun rather than tennis development.

If it is for tennis development, you're better off spending the money on private lessons with a very good coach.

[tennisconsultcom]

Originally Posted by Soianka

None of the above.

Unless you are just sending the child to camp for fun rather than tennis development.

If it is for tennis development, you're better off spending the money on private lessons with a very good coach.

That's right. Tennis camps have nothing with a tennis player's development. They are for fun and socializing.

[10ismom]

Originally Posted by Soianka

None of the above.

Unless you are just sending the child to camp for fun rather than tennis development.

If it is for tennis development, you're better off spending the money on private lessons with a very good coach.

I cannot comment on the 2 camps OP asked. There are places that offer developmental camp which a kid works 1:1 with a specific coach as well. If you know somebody, you can request for a particular coach (which we did) who has a record of developing very good juniors or pros. For the group drills, your child will have a chance to hit with very good players that can be from anywhere in the US or even other countries.
If you choose a right camp with a right coach, it can help develop your player. It's not for everyone but in barringer97's case, he saves tons of money teaching his child all year so money spent for another coach/camp might be worth it.

[tennis5]

Originally Posted by tennisconsultcom

To get this a player (especially) a boy should be very competitive like 5 stars, top 200 ITF level, at least. And think if tennis 20+ hours a week in college will help him/her to be a good student.

Too many "coaches" with BA in Economics, Political Science, etc. work as coaches because they were not able to get a good job after college. Actually, this is one of a reason of bad situation in American tennis. Coaches have to coach not "economists".

On the money....

But, take it a step forward.
Why can't the young tennis man get a good job out of college even with their BA in Economics.
Besides, the fact that he doesn't have the same GPA as the kids who study all the time,
he is missing the summer work experience from high school and college.

So, while he was playing tournaments during the summer,
the other boy was interning for free during the high school summer, and then either working or interning again during the summer in college.
All those work experiences add up in this economy and lead to a job...

That is the dirty secret of playing tennis during the summer...

[tennis5]

Ask any parent of a college age student about work experience.
I am the parent of a college student and can attest to the fact that summer work experience is instrumental in securing a job.
But, why don't you do your own homework instead calling my comments " garbage".
Of course, you were one of the posters who said the same thing when I tried to tell folks about the 2014 changes before the March vote.
That also was garbage and a dirty secret when I tried to get folks to call their sectional office. Nice.

[tball2day]

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[andfor]

Originally Posted by tennis5

Ask any parent of a college age student about work experience.
I am the parent of a college student and can attest to the fact that summer work experience is instrumental in securing a job.
But, why don't you do your own homework instead calling my comments " garbage".
Of course, you were one of the posters who said the same thing when I tried to tell folks about the 2014 changes before the March vote.
That also was garbage and a dirty secret when I tried to get folks to call their sectional office. Nice.

No one is debating internships. Your generalization and assumption is that tennis coaches with BA's in Economics were goofing off playing tennis in the summer and not interning. Thus, the reason they are tennis coaches.

On your other remark, that's not what happened. But you can try to throw out the distraction in the face of what you've said here.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by tennisconsultcom

To get this a player (especially) a boy should be very competitive like 5 stars, top 200 ITF level, at least. And think if tennis 20+ hours a week in college will help him/her to be a good student.

Too many "coaches" with BA in Economics, Political Science, etc. work as coaches because they were not able to get a good job after college. Actually, this is one of a reason of bad situation in American tennis. Coaches have to coach not "economists".

He started it by blaming "a reason of bad situation in American tennis" on "Too many "coaches" with BA in Economics, Political Science, etc". Said nothing about internships.

Pretty far fetched premise. I'd call it something else but for the sake of civility will not.

Originally Posted by tennis5

On the money....

But, take it a step forward.
Why can't the young tennis man get a good job out of college even with their BA in Economics.
Besides, the fact that he doesn't have the same GPA as the kids who study all the time,
he is missing the summer work experience from high school and college.

So, while he was playing tournaments during the summer,
the other boy was interning for free during the high school summer, and then either working or interning again during the summer in college.
All those work experiences add up in this economy and lead to a job...

That is the dirty secret of playing tennis during the summer...

This entire post is assumptive.