Soft Poly's that are easy on the arm

[chopstic]

Originally Posted by chopstic

Very true. You cant take something that contains polyurethane, and say it is not polyurethane.

*correction, meant to say polyester

[tlm]

Originally Posted by Torres

Actually its a monofilament poly string that is a solid piece of plastic.

'Poly' simply denotes the material used, not the form of construction.

All the popular poly strings that are used are a solid piece of plastic. Please show me other poly strings that have bundles of different materials like the picture of the nxt control string which is a multi, you know multi as in multiple bundles of different materials exactly the opposite of a poly string!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Muppet]

Originally Posted by chopstic

*correction, meant to say polyester

You've uncovered a very true point. NXT is a polyurethane multi and NXT Control is a polyester multi, although not in the same way.

[Torres]

Originally Posted by tlm

All the popular poly strings that are used are a solid piece of plastic. Please show me other poly strings that have bundles of different materials like the picture of the nxt control string which is a multi, you know multi as in multiple bundles of different materials exactly the opposite of a poly string!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not that I care, but since you asked.....

• The filaments are bundles of polyester strands.
• Each bundle of strands is encased in high-density polyurethane (PU HD).
• Multiple bundles are used to construct the string itself, held together with PU HD.
• Finally, it is coated with SPL (Silicium Pyrogene Lubritec)

[TimothyO]

Originally Posted by Torres

Actually its a monofilament poly string that is a solid piece of plastic.

'Poly' simply denotes the material used, not the form of construction.

NXT control is a multi-filament since it's composed of...wait for it...multiple filaments. Multiple, independent filaments are extruded independently and then wrapped around one another and coated with another material. There are seven independent filaments in this case: four poly and three nylon.

Some of the strands are polyester, some are nylon.

Therefore, the construction is multi-filament and some are poly and some are nylon.

The construction matters most since multi-filaments and mono-filaments play. Very differently.

What's throwing people off is that traditionally polyesters have been monofilaments (there are exceptions) while nylons have usually been multi-filaments.

Essentially, using polyester for a few of the strands will strengthen the string while suspending the multiple filaments in polyeurathane softens the entire construct.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Muppet

You've uncovered a very true point. NXT is a polyurethane multi and NXT Control is a polyester multi, although not in the same way.

NXT Control is much softer than NXT which I did not expect.

[Torres]

Anyway, getting back to the original post, Dunlop Black Widow is softer, offers more feel, and is more arm friendly than all of those strings on the OP's list.

[filphil]

TF x-code is a polyester multifilament string where bundles of polyester string are put together. Maybe that'll be soft?

[Sander001]

Originally Posted by Rob1

It took me a long time to go back to poly's and found
these are easy on arm then.
They are:

Pro Line 11
Hurricane
Spiky Shark
Sonic Pro

All are 17 gauge and I use ther Sonic pro full bed in a flexible racquet.

I'm going to order some Pro Line II 17L to see how I like it. FWIW, I'm a long time Competition user and I got tennis elbow from one single session when I over did it. First time it's happened in my 20yrs of tennis. It's taken almost 2yrs to recover but now that I have, I'm still using Competition and have had not even a hint of a relapse.
2¢.

BTW, does anybody use the TW University string database thing? I think it's an absolutely awesome tool and I always find it to be accurate. A long time ago, there was a very similar tool on a different site and that was also extremely helpful. I wonder if TW bought the rights to it and appropriated it for the TW site or something.

[PKfan1]

Black Widow is softest monofilament poly on the market even in 16g. I also find Tourna BHB7 to be very soft and arm friendly as well.

[anubis]

I've found that it has less to do with the string and more to do with the racquet. I've been stringing a bunch of poly in my racquets of late and have had no arm issues. But my racquet is soft, 59-62 stiffness.

When I used PDGTs, it didn't matter if it was poly or multi -- I had arm issues either way.

So I suggest looking up the stiffness of your racquet. If its a stiff racquet, then any poly is probably not right for you regardless if it's the "softest" poly out there.

[kabob]

Originally Posted by Torres

It's both. You're both arguing over nothing.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...scan0003-1.jpg

http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com...t_control.html

I'm not arguing and I agree with your post that it's both. Tell this "tlm" character to maybe expand his narrow definitions and take that stick out of his *** with the tone of his posts

[Devilito]

BHB7 is amazingly soft

[tlm]

Originally Posted by kabob

I'm not arguing and I agree with your post that it's both. Tell this "tlm" character to maybe expand his narrow definitions and take that stick out of his *** with the tone of his posts

You and torres are the ones that have no idea of what you are talking about. You have no clue if you think that nxt control is a poly string. Anyone that knows anything about strings will tell you the same thing, so go ahead and believe whatever you want but you are wrong.

[Bartelby]

You seem to care about whether people think you're right.

Originally Posted by Torres

No one cares.

[JT_2eighty]

Other great soft monofilament co-polys that I've used with success to my arm:

Weisscannon Mosquito Bite
Pro Supex Big Ace Micro
Polystar Energy
Polystar Turbo (textured version of Energy)

[ChicagoJack]

Originally Posted by Torres

Anyway, getting back to the original post, Dunlop Black Widow is softer, offers more feel, and is more arm friendly than all of those strings on the OP's list.

Torres,

I completely agree. Even at 16g it's Dunlop Black Widow by a country mile. No contest at all. Been playing with the 18 gauge at 54 lbs in a Donnay Pro One, and its pretty effing sweet. Soft or no soft, I prefer it performance wise to my last textured poly fave, BHBR. I know you aren't big on lab testing, but in this case, the available test results agree with you. I've provided a cross section of the strings mentioned in this thread, the whole enchilada can be reconstructed here. Thought I'd share with the thread fwiw. BTW... how's your achilles tendon holding up?

-Jack

[maxpotapov]

I liked Black Widow a lot, it is very arm friendly and performs very good, but I would not use it more than 2-3 hitting sessions. Like with any other poly it loses elasticity and then it does not matter any more if it less stiff than competition. On the other hand, I heard that much more expensive Luxilon dies even faster, such was my experience with Luxilon Adrenaline.

[Mrsbrownsboys]

Yonex poly tour pro is a unique feeling string...very very good on the arm if you can stand the yellow colur

[Torres]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

You seem to care about whether people think you're right.

Don't be stupid.