|08-19-2012, 08:12 PM||#141|
Join Date: Jul 2012
Full set or hybrid- Hybrid with Gamma Synthetic Gut
Tension used for playtest- 52
Regular string set up- Luxilon ALU Spin/Gamma Synthetic Gut
Racquet brand and model used for test- Babolat AeroPro Drive GT
Power- what I expected. Low, but what I am used to.
Feel- exceptional! Near perfection.
Spin- Average, basically the same as what I'm using.
Comfort- Much better than ALU. Most comfortable Poly I've ever used
Durability- A little longer than my ALU. 6-8 hours
Tension maintenance- Held tension better than ALU. About 3-4 hours longer for me.
Control- Average, similar to ALU.
Compare- I would prefer these over my ALU for comfort, but they really reminded me of each other.
Tension recommendation- I liked the tension I used, mainly because it's what I have been using.
Summary- 1. I liked how it held tension, made me able to play longer with them.
2. I liked how much they reminded me of my ALU. My favorite strings.
3. I disliked nothing really.
Hope this helps, thank you for selecting me for this opportunity.
APDGT RPM Blast/Gut
|08-20-2012, 08:06 AM||#142|
Join Date: May 2008
4G playtest result
I am a male intermediate level player with top spin baseline both wing and slice backhand. I play both single and double.
Strung hybrid, Luxlion 4G as main at 50lbs and MCS cross at 53lbs. My regular setup is mamba iontec 1.20 @50lbs main and MCS 53lbs cross. The string job was easy on my regular racquet, which is Babolat pure drive GT.
Power of test string: intermediate. Compare to Iontec, it is lower, but does provide enough power and depth when take a full swing at the ball.
Feel: solid hitting in all shots, ground stroke, volley and serve. Slice is difficult to generate depth and pace, might need more time to get use to it.
Spin: inter medium. Lower compare to iontec. Wish it can be more spin when take a good swing on it.
Comfort: comfortable string. Has played 6 hours with this setup and had no issue at all.
Durability: 6 hours in single and double in 2 days and string still perform well. Not much wear on string and should be able to go long way.
Tension maintenance: After 6 hours of hitting, I start to feel the tension lose and string movement in racket but not in a significant way. It still performs well and I will continue to use it. I think it is as good as any string I have used in tension maintenance.
Control: this string excels in this category. I am very satisfied with the control in various shot. Ground stroke is very predictable and I had great success in passing shot during double. When I moved in to hit during volley, I was able to hit the winner or able to put the ball where I wanted without much effort.
Compare to the string I use most often, which is mamba Iontec 1.20, 4G provides more control, feel and comfort is about the same. Iontec generate more spin and power.
Tension recommendations: I am very happy to string up at 50/53 but would try to lower 2 lbs to see if the string can create more spin and power without sacrifice on control.
Summary: I like the control and feel the most with this string. With this setup, I can put the ball easily where I wanted. It is a great string for touch single player and doubles players focus more on placement than spin and power.
I would enjoy more if the string can provide more spin. Even when I had a good full swing on the ball, the spin coming out of it is moderate. I would love to have the ball jump up more fiercely and take the control of the point in that situation.
Additional Note: Played again in 2 singles matches with the string. feel stiffness in arm the next day. string started to move. spin and control start to drop. The string is pretty much dead and will cut out. So total hour of play is about 8-10 hours.
Finally, thanks to TW for the opportunity and free T.
Last edited by ten11 : 08-21-2012 at 07:31 AM. Reason: additional testing feedback.
|08-20-2012, 08:54 AM||#143|
Will play today 08/20 and Thursday 08/23 with this string and will post the review on Friday 08/24.
5x Volkl C10pt & 2x Volkl PB10mid (various strings & tensions, some full some hybrid)
|08-20-2012, 09:45 AM||#144|
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Second outing yesterday, a casual 1 hr hit.
The strings have settled and loosened up some, and feel much better. The jarring brassiness I experienced in my first hit has lessened considerably.
In the second hit, I warmed up with a second backup strung with syn gut, before swtiching to the racket with the Lux. Compared to syn gut, my shots had considerably more spin, and the ball seemed heavier from my hitting partner's feedback. (Cue Captain Obvious to the rescue!)
I have a mixed match tonight and will give the settled 4G a try under competitive situations. (Read: if I lose, I'm totally blaming the string. Just kidding. Kind of.)
2013 APD+, Pink Cyclone 18 @ 42 lbs, 6g @ 10 & 2, leather + OG + 4g of Elmer's Tac. Strung weight 339g
|08-20-2012, 10:36 AM||#145|
Join Date: Dec 2011
First, thanks again TW for the playtest and the t-shirt. Enjoying both.
Full set or hybrid - Full Set
Tension used for playtest - 50lb mains 48lb crosses
Regular string set up - MSV Focus Hex 1.18 50m/48l
Racquet brand and model used for test - Volkl OrganiX 8 315g
Notes - I strung one racquet with the test string and one with my normal setup so that I could compare them back-to-back and monitor how they age. I've been trading off, spending about equal time with each setup. Each string has about 5 hours of hitting on it at this point.
Power - low, as expected. It's obviously quite a bit lower power than the much thinner Focus Hex at the same tension. I found that at 50lbs the power was quite nice once I adjusted my swing to it (i.e., increased racquet speed)
Feel - feels like a Luxilon It's the classic boardy/stiff feeling that you get from a full bed of Luxilon, which for me is actually kind of nice. Not nearly as lively as the MSVFH1.18, but you definitely feel nice pocketing. I recently played with a full bed of ALU Fluoro, and this gives a similar pocketing sensation, but with a bit more stiffness since the Fluoro is 17 gauge.
Spin - nasty, dirty, heavy spin. This is not a "spin string" in the way that, say, Black Widow is a spin string, which grabs at the ball and gives a bit more string for the same swing. This string doesn't do that. To put real junk on the ball with this string, you need a lot of racquet speed, and this string rewards you by not trampolining the ball over the fence as you amp up your swing. Coming from the Focus Hex, with the same swing on the 4G I was generating less penetration and pretty flat balls. As I worked harder, the string rewarded me with heavy topspin and penetration. Taking that same swing back to the Focus produced long balls on looping shots (too much trampolining) and less penetration on driving shots (too much topspin).
Comfort - it's a Luxilon. Check your rotator cuff at the door Seriously: stiffer than Fluoro by a lot, but I used to play with Kevlar so this still feels reasonably comfortable to my joints.
Durability - no issues yet. I'll update if I manage to break it, but I doubt it'll happen before I'm ready to cut it out.
Tension maintenance - I'll return and comment more on this. Already seems to be holding steady much better than the ALU Fluoro did, though.
Control - Control from the baseline is excellent. Placement on serves is also very good. I don't get the same feeling of control at the net that I enjoy with the Focus Hex, however.
Comparison to my regular string - Generally, compared to the MSV Focus Hex 1.18, this string is lower power and stiffer. As I've discussed, this lets me use more racquet speed without worry about going long, which results in heavier, more powerful balls.
Why wouldn't I use this all the time, you might ask? First, at least as a training aid I think I will probably add a stiffer string like this to my arsenal. Against weaker opponents who aren't giving back a lot of pace, this string is also preferable to the Focus. However, playing against hard hitters, particularly players who are stronger than me, I can shorten up my stroke and relax a bit more if the string is doing more work for me, which gives me a greater degree of success; in such a situation, I'd prefer the Focus.
In my service game, I found the 4G to be clearly superior for kick serves, again because of the lower power and thus higher racquet speed: I could get the same amount of spin with the Focus Hex, but have to lower my trajectory or I'll sail the kick serve long. For flat serves, the extra pop from the Focus Hex gave me greater velocity. I found that I was able to get similar directional control from both strings regardless of serve type.
Tension recommendations - For me, 50/48 was absolutely perfect for this string. In fact, given the way it played, I'm probably going to experiment with stringing the Focus Hex just a bit tighter, maybe 52/50, to kick down the power a notch so I can do a little more of the work myself.
This string has been excellent through the first several hours. I absolutely love the way it feels when hitting heavy topspin from the baseline, and I found my kick serves to be out of this world. Backhand slices were also well controlled, though I wasn't able to generate the same amount of spin because of the lower racquet speed and shorter stroke for slice shots.
When playing doubles, I wasn't as happy with the feel at the net as with my Focus Hex. The pocketing is also a bit better in general with the Focus, though that's to be expected since it's thinner and thus a bit springier.
When I tested ALU Fluoro, I found that I really liked it, but given that it was 3x more expensive than Focus Hex and didn't seem to last any longer, I couldn't justify going with it. If this string does actually last substantially longer than the Fluoro, I'll be quite happy with it and will definitely consider switching, or at least keeping one racquet strung with each and playing them situationally.
|08-20-2012, 12:28 PM||#146|
Join Date: Mar 2011
4.5 all court player
Full set or hybrid: Full set, 2-piece
Tension used for playtest: 52 lbs. on a CP drop weight
Regular string set up: Dunlop Black Widow 52 lbs.
Racquet brand and model used for test: Dunlop Biomimetic 200 w/ leather grip
Stringing: Felt like a typical poly when stringing it. It hardly stretched when pulling tension, but still felt soft for a poly. Crosses were easier to weave than some polys but harder to weave than others. Coil memory was kind of bad. However, the string didn't ever kink while stringing. Will be playing with this setup for the next 3 days.
Review to follow.
Played for a little over 6 hours so far in both singles and doubles. Found this string to play great from the get go.
Power of test string: I found there to be good amount of power from this string. If you wanted it, it was there, but if you didn't then it wasn't. It was a very controllable power. Better pop than I have found with other recently played with polys.
Feel: This string offered very good feel for a poly. IMO it has the best feel of any full bed poly I have ever played with. Volleyes and touch shots were a breeze with this string. I felt very dialed in from the very beginning.
Spin: This wasn't this strings best quality. However, I never felt a lack of spin. There was just enough to give me the confidence to swing out. It doesn't have as much spin as some of the textured or shaped polys, but there was enough that I didn't have to change the way I hit to adjust. My kick serves were jumping up about the same as with most other polys, but not quite as much as when I am hitting with black widow. There were only a few balls hit that went long that would normally stay in with my normal setup.
Comfort: This string was and is still very comfortable. This has probably been one of the most comfortable polys I have played with. BW is also very soft and I thought the comfort of the 4G is quite comparable to that. I have yet to feel any pain in my wrist or elbow which happens every now and then when using a full bed of poly.
Durability: Durability is great! There is absolutely not notching at all. I don't experience that often with polys by this point.
Tension maintenance: Tension maintenance is outstanding. I feel no loss of playablility so far with this string. No movement in the string bed at all.
Control: Control is by far the best quality of this string (if I have to choose one). It delivers a very predictable shot on all strokes. Directional control was fantastic as I was able to constantly hit my spots. I have hit more winners recently than I normally do. Every shot felt great to hit. I especially enjoyed coming to the net to finish points off. Angled volleys were wonderful because I felt very connected to the ball when placing it.
Compare to the string you use most often: This string compared well to BW, but has better tension maintenance and is a little more predictable. I felt 4G has slightly more power than BW. BW is a little softer, but both are very comfortable to play with. BW also has a more spin, but that spin can be a little unpredictable at times. I got better feel and overall control from the 4G. 4G is also a lot more durable than the BW. By this point the BW would have a significant amount of notching where as 4G as none at all.
Tension recommendations: For me, 52 was perfect. It gave me a great amount of power and control and seems to be holding tension quite well.
Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.: I liked everything about this string. So far it has been just about the best poly string I have played with. If it holds playability well into the 10-12 hour mark then this string might be a winner. The feel and control I have gotten from 4G has been best of any poly I have played with. It suffers a little in the spin department, but I never felt a lack of spin. There was always just enough to keep the ball in play while still hitting a fairly heavy ball. The only downfall that this string might run into for some people is the price. Other than that it is an awesome string.
Thank you TW and Luxilon for this opportunity! Hope this review helps.
Last edited by ewberner : 08-23-2012 at 10:42 AM.
|08-20-2012, 07:05 PM||#147|
Join Date: Jul 2012
Full set or hybrid: Full set
Tension used for playtest: 62lbs
Regular string set up: Tourna BHB7 16g @62lbs
Racquet brand and model used for test: Pro Kennex Redondo Mid
Power of test string: Initially I found it to be super dead and wished I strung it looser, but after a few hits I found the string to have excellent controlled power. There was plenty of power there when I wanted it and took full swings at the ball, and I was bombing my serve. When I make solid contact with the sweetspot it sounded like a cannon going off.
Feel: I found the feel to be excellent for a poly, it was very crisp, but not at all harsh. It was great up at net as well.
Spin: Spin was very predictable and easy to control, it was available if I wanted it and I could hit great flat shots as well. Decent kick on the serve as well.
Comfort: at first I thought this string was very boardy, but once it settled in it was very comfortable, and surprisingly so considering how crisp it felt.
Durability: durability seem a little above average. There's some decent notching after 6 hours, but no signs of breakage so I can't really comment.
Tension maintenance: I have yet to notice any loss of control yet as of 6 hrs of play. It doesn't seem to have loosened up at all since it initially settled in.
Control : Control was excellent, very predictable trajectory. I was able to place the ball exactly where I wanted at all times, I especially noticed the high level of control when I went for hard flat shots. I was hitting winners left and right.
Compare to the string you use most often: compared to BHB7 it feels much firmer, but not necessarily in a bad way, control was better, and there was a little less spin on routine groundstrokes and kick serves.
Tension recommendations :For me I might try the tension maybe a couple of lbs lower, just to soften the bed up a little, but I think I could be happy with the way it was.
Summary: I loved the control and crispness. And I loved the sound, it sounded like no other string I've played before. This string really gave me confidence to play my game, I don't think there was anything I dislike about it.
Thanks for this oppurtunity TW!!
|08-20-2012, 08:19 PM||#148|
Join Date: Dec 2010
first i would like to thank TW and Lux for sending me free string and a tee shirt. great job
4.0-4.5 male, semi-western/eastern FH, 1HBH top and slice. all court game with strong strokes. never met a ball i did not want to hit a winner on
strung on a CP machine 50/48 pounds. it strung well, but had some issues with coil (took some time to untangle the mess).
stick: head PP prostock. strung specs: 12.4oz, 350 SW, 7 pts HL
preferred string is alu power
quick review: for those of you who have played with Alu power, you will have similar performance with 4G. the main difference is that 4G feels a little softer but not too soft.
feel: a little softer than alu power but still a slightly crisp response. overall very nice.
power: loads of power, but controlled power, no real flyers. just the right amount to allow for hitting out.
control: this is where 4G (and alu power) really shines. the directional control is excellent either top or when flattening out balls. for me this is why i would buy these strings - superior direction control.
spin: good, not crazy like some of the geared strings out there but more than enough to control the ball. good side spin on well struck forehands
serve: i really enjoyed serving with these strings. tons of power and placement was spot on. kick servers were about average in terms of spin.
touch: i would say a little above average (for a full bed of poly). touch is not a strength so i would not be the best person to review this.
durability: after 2 hours notching has started, nothing out of the ordinary (i will break most polys in about 8 hours)
tension: felt good after playing, about the same as when i started. however i am not the best judge on tension, i dont mind playing with dead poly, keeps the ball in the court a little more.
sound: nice pop sound, hitting a hard flat serve has a canon like sound, ups the fun factor.
this is a great string for people who hit big and don't want/need a huge amount of spin (dont get me wrong there is plenty of spin). the harder one swings the better this string performs. pushers need not apply
Last edited by jman32 : 08-20-2012 at 08:21 PM. Reason: forgot to add "sound"
|08-20-2012, 09:22 PM||#149|
Join Date: Oct 2011
I playtested the new 4G string and here is my review:
Hybrid with 4G on the mains and NXT on the crosses at 55 pounds on the Wilson Prostaff 6.0.
Usual setup: M2 plus mains wit NXT crosses at 58 pounds.
Power: The string seemed to be pretty low powered on pretty much every stroke.
Feel: The feel was ok. Did not notice much difference between this and my regular setup.
Spin: Nothing spectacular with spin, but definitely above average to me.
Comfort: This felt a bit stiff at first, but once it settled in, it was a lot more comfortable than my usual setup.
Durability: So far I am about 7 hours into the playtest and the 4G is holding up great, but it will be hard to comment on this since the NXT crosses always break for me.
Tension maintenance: As I said earlier, the 4G felt a tiny bit stiff at first, but once it settled in after about a half hour, I didnít notice any tension loss after 7 hours into the test. It seems to have great tension maintenance.
Control: Control was great with this string. The trajectory was predictable as soon as I made contact with the ball and felt it come off the stringbed. It didnít matter how fast I swung or what type of shot I hit Ė I could tell where the ball was going.
After hitting with it, I would probably try to lower the tension by a few pounds because the string is so low powered. I got great control out of the string and was happy with the amount of power I got out of it, but I would like to see how much this changes at lower tensions.
Summary: The new 4G string is great. I would probably give it a 9/10 for me because I really liked the comfort, control, low power, and tension maintenance. I would definitely consider switching to this and buying a reel depending on the price.
|08-21-2012, 09:42 AM||#150|
Join Date: Jun 2012
Full set or hybrid - Full
Tension used for playtest -2 full Setups (52/50 and 50/4
Regular string set up - Tour bite 17 (50 full) or SPPP (50 full)
Racquet brand and model used for test - Yonex VCORE Tour 89
Power of test string - Low. Maybe a little to low for my game at 52/50, but 50/48 was pretty good. Wish it had just a bit more pop as it would be the perfect string for me.
Feel - Great, especially on volleys and approach shots. This is probably the best poly I have used for anything off the baseline. Would be my favorite for everything with just a bit more power.
Spin - Good spin. For me I would say predictable spin. Not crazy spin like tour bite which sometimes is a little too much and not predictable.
Comfort - Great. The string feels stiff, but somehow I feel no arm pain at all.
Durability - So far so good. Don't notice any notching and only minor wear after 6 hours.
Tension maintenance - Notice no loss of tension in six hours.
Control - Control is amazing. Predictable shots in all swings. No surprises with these strings. Love the control!
Compare to the string you use most often - I would say less spin the tour bite, but more control and comfort. Less power than SPPP, but control and predictability is WAY better.
Tension recommendations - Haven't found a preffered tension yet. 52/50 has slightly more control that 50/48, but not much. Definitely not enough power. If given another set I would try maybe 48/46.
Summary: This is easy. Like everything about the string, actually love, except for power. Wish I had another set to string lower before i have to pay
Yonex VCORE Tour 89 / Head LM Instinct Tour XL
|08-21-2012, 12:21 PM||#151|
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: location, location
Full set or hybrid
Hybrid, with Gosen OG Sheep Micro crosses.
Tension used for playtest
Mains & crosses at 55 pounds.
Regular string set up
Usually Topspin CyberFlash or Tourna Big Hitter Silver (regular and rough), with OGSM crosses at 55 pounds.
Racquet brand and model used for test.
Prince Warrior OS.
Power of test string
Lower powered than I'm used to. Sure, polys are expected to be relatively low powered, but this had less pop than other polys I've been using lately. I definitely was serving slower than usual (although with better control) than normal. Really need to keep the swing speed up with this string to get pace and depth on the ball.
A very muted "dead" feel from this string. Crisp, and not mushy. Not too harsh on the arm (relatively speaking, for a poly). Nice feel and accuracy on volleys.
I had to work a bit harder for really big spin with this string than my usual setup. It wasn't terrible, but this wouldn't be your first choice if you were looking for easy access to spin. Middle of the road for spin, I'd say.
Relative to other polys, this was OK for me. I didn't get a lot of harsh vibrations on mishits, and I didn't experience any painful flare-ups (yeah, I've had some arm problems in the past). No saying how this would behave over the long haul, but for the duration of the test, it was just fine.
Seems pretty good over the six hours (three hitting sessions) I used it. Not much notching noticeable, and I'll probably use it a few more times this coming weekend, but I didn't want to wait until the deadline to post my review.
Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)
It's holding up OK after six hours. Maybe loosened up a little, but still playing well. I noticed on stringing it up that this string had absolutely no stretching at all on the machine.
Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
This was the string's best quality for me. In my first outing with it, I hardly missed a first serve, and was placing baseline shots very accurately. I could have used a bit more power, but it was surprising how accurate my shots were with this string. Very controlled and predictable.
Compare to the string you use most often.
The Luxilon beats Cyber Flash on directional control and comfort. The CyberFlash has a bit more power and spin. It's sort of a draw, although the Luxilon will almost certainly be more expensive than the CF.
Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
I'll probably string the other half set a bit lower, at 50 pounds, to see if I can get a bit more pop out of it.
Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
Loved the control. Not so much on the lack of power and just-average spin (for a poly).
I just got a new racquet for my wife. Pretty good trade, huh?
|08-21-2012, 12:37 PM||#152|
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Thank you TW for letting me take part on this playtest!
This is what I posted directly on the Luxilon FB page:
Had a great playtest with the Luxilon 4G!
Some quick info on me:
I play with a Babolat AeroPro Control. Full western grip, play with moderate spin and flats whenever I can. Two-handed backhand, and an all-court player.
Played on a full bed @ 54 lbs. Strung on a Babolat AeroPro Control MP. Always played on hard court.
At first impression, I thought it would be a stiff string. Just judging by a quick rub when it was in the packaging, I was afraid that my arm is going to flare up again. But it was a co-poly, and knowing that those are softer than a standard poly, I gave it a go.
It surprised me! It was actually quite soft to the touch! The feel reminded me of a string I used long ago: Tourna Big Hitter Blue. It felt soft, almost as soft as a synthetic. But it had that great pop and feel from a poly.
As for power, there was plenty to go around. Spin was fine, especially since it's not a textured co-poly. There was enough for it to get around and get some spin on those kick serves. But if someone was looking for pure spin, they'd obviously go for a textured string.
Control was quite good. I was able to keep the ball precise, both at baseline and net.
And the best part, it held its tension quite well! Played on for quite a bit, and it's still not dead yet, or at least to my standard.
So yes, if someone is looking for a great all-around string with a soft feel, and doesn't want to give up power, and long string life, this a great choice!
Thanks so much Luxilon for letting me partake in this playtest! It was a very rewarding experience!
Babolat AeroPro Control MP. BLACK RACQUET 98T
Genesis Black Magic 17g @ 54/56 lbs
|08-21-2012, 02:31 PM||#153|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Control up the Ying-Yang!
Thanks Luxilon & TW(and especially Jon) for the playtest and t-shirt. How did you know my size?
Playing level: 4.5 16 year old counterpuncher, really consistent, no big power on groundies or serves, fastest serve is 95 MPH. 5' 10", 110 LBS. I get to every ball, and love running back and forth
Full set or hybrid: Full bed.
Tension used for playtest: 52
Regular string set up: Pro Supex Big Ace 16 @ 56 lbs.
Racquet brand and model used for test: Wilson K Six One Team 95 (18x20)
Power of test string: These were the lowest powered poly strings I have played with to date. Granted, Big Ace is pretty powerful for poly, but I found that Topspin Cyber Flash(which I think is low powered) was more powerful for this. I didn't like the low power for serves. Probably should have strung it even lower.
Feel: I wasn't crazy about the feel, as one poster said, it felt brassy. No spring at all, lower tension or hybrid would help. Also didn't have enough put away power for stretch volleys. I will say that my slices were sick. This is the best slicing string I have used.
Spin: Slightly less than average spin for a smooth poly, probably a flat hitters string due to low power. Spin was available, but no crazy BHBR spin. I expected more from a Luxilon string.
Comfort: The feel was not good, but I didn't have any pain or soreness. Luxilon ALU gave me a sore arm, so this is definitely softer than that.
Durability: I'm at the 10 hour mark, and they look like they have a couple more hours left. Note: I'm more of a counter puncher, not a hard hitter
Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): I'm really surprised in this department, because Luxilon strings are supposed to die quickly, but this one is only feeling dead after 10 hours. It lost a bit of tension after the first 20 minutes hitting, but stabilized after that until the eighth hour where it started dropping again. Again, I'm not a hard hitter.
Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): This is where 4G really stood out. I was swinging for the fences and it was going in! I thought Big Ace had really good control, but this surpasses it by a country mile. It probably helps that it's low powered...
Compare to the string you use most often: Compared to Pro Supex Big Ace, this string is really low-powered, has great control, less spin, less comfort and touch, and better slices. Being low-powered does not help my serve.
Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I would string this at 46 LBS. next time because of the really low power and low spin.
Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
Like 1: Really great control.
Like 2: Slices were phenomenal
Dislike 1: Low-powered(especially on serves)
Dislike 2: Feel wasn't good.
3 Wilson K Six.One Teams, 325 grams, 2 pts. HL ,SW 334, Pro Supex Big Ace 16 lime @ 56 lbs. Proud owner of a Klippermate!
|08-21-2012, 08:11 PM||#154|
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Won't be switching to the full bed of 4G after all. It's either the hybrid or back to my normal setup! Felt like I'm not getting the feel and comfort I am used to... then again I've been a Natty Gut hybrid user for so long. Not totally shocked. Will update once more to deliver my final judgement.
|08-22-2012, 07:31 AM||#155|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Full set or hybrid - Full Set
Tension used for playtest - 50 lbs in both mains and crosses
Regular string set up - Donnay X Hybrid Strings - Poly Mains at 50 lbs, Synthetic Crosses at 55 lbs.
Racquet brand and model used for test - Donnay Pro One 97
Power of test string - Extremely powerful!
Feel - String felt very, very stiff and unforgiving. Especially at the net
Spin - Generates tremendous spin
Comfort - Fairly comfortable for a stiff poly
Durability - Very durable, did not shred or peel
Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable) - Very good tension maintenance. No noticeable drop off after about 10 hours of play
Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) - The string provided very good control. I would swing very hard and was able to keep the ball in the court. Was definitely aided by the good spin that was generated. Trajectory was consistent with other strings that I normally play with. On slower swings, the string still felt controlled, however at the net, it did feel unforgiving on mis-hits.
Compare to the string you use most often - The Donnay hybrid string that I currently play with offers me pretty comfortable power and good access to spin. It is much more forgiving for me at the net. That was the biggest difference for me over this Luxilon 4G test string.
Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) I might drop the string down to about 48 lbs to see if it offers me any additional forgiveness at the net
Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes. - Likes: Good power and control, good tension maintenance. Dislikes: String felt stiff and unforgiving at the net.
Thanks again TW and Luxilon for the opportunity to play test this string as well as the free T shirt!!
3 Matched Donnay Pro One 97's
Last edited by njsigman : 08-22-2012 at 07:35 AM. Reason: Spacing
|08-22-2012, 07:54 AM||#156|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Full set or hybrid - Hybrid of Babolat VS Gut in mains and 4G in the Crosses. Strung at 55/48 lbs.
Regular string set up Babolat VS gut strung at 55lbs
Racquet brand and model used for test the HEAD IG Prestige Mid.
Power of test - I thought the power was good. I thought I hit the ball just as hard but with more spin and control than my regular setup. I did notice a bigger drop off in power when hit outside of the sweat spot.
Feel - good feel. I don't like vibration or that metallic ping sound. My racquet made a good thud and no extra vibration compared to my regular setup.
Spin - I got more spin than my regular setup. I have been a natural gut player. I had resisted changing to a poly. It was a refreshing how much more spin I got without changing technique.
Comfort - Good comfort. No extra shock or vibration when compared to my regular setup. The stringbed did feel firmer. But nothing uncomfortable.
Durability - The gut did not last long. The mains broke within 3 days. I cant comment on the 4G because of how short the gut lasted.
Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable) For the 3 days the gut lasted tension maintenance was great. There was no significant drop off of tension.
Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) - It was very predictable. I had much more control than my regular setup.
Compare to the string you use most often - I felt I had much more control on my forehand with the 4G. Especially on highballs above my shoulder and when I'm inside the court being aggressive or hitting approach shots.
Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) I though I had played with a good tension.
Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes. I am a neophyte in the world of poly strings. I would defiantly stay with the hybrid setup. My main complaint was how short the gut lasted in this setup. I liked the control and spin combination I got. I will try the reverse setup and see how the durability is.
HEAD Prestige Classic 600 and Pro Tour 630 are still superior to the new imitations.
|08-22-2012, 10:17 AM||#157|
Join Date: May 2009
Set up: Full set strung at 57 lbs on a volkl pb mid 10 (16x19)
Power: This string is best for those who prefer to supply their own power. Although the 4G lands more on the lower powered poly side, it does offer exceptional control.
Spin: I was able to generate heavy topspin on serves and forehands. Compared to other co-poly strings, this would rank above average
Feel: Great "popping" feedback. You can really feel it grip the ball like solinco tour bite.
Comfort: Relative to other co-poly strings, 4G felt much more comfortable, though it is still a bit stiff.
Tension/Durability: After 15 hrs of playing the strings still feel lively and elastic.
Control: With the spin potential and low powered characteristics of the string, it offers great control. I felt that I was able to swing with heavy head speed while still being able to place it.
Tension recommendation: For me, 57 lbs is perfect for co-poly strings, but I would recommend 53-55 lbs for more comfort, sacrificing spin and control.
Likes: spin, tension maintenance, and comfort.
|08-22-2012, 04:20 PM||#158|
Join Date: Aug 2012
my regular string set up genises black magic 52 pounds tension racquet is POG 90
I strung the string at 52 pounds full set
Power: thought the string had good power on both ground strokes and serve
Feel: the string had a very soft feel for a poly unlike other luxilon strings and is also simular to the feel of luxilon savage.
Spin: string gave plenty of spin on serves and ground strokes both top spin and slices.
Control/durability: had very good control durability seemed good so far for about 14 hours of play.
tension: tension maintance was good felt a differnce in feel at about 12 hours of play
the 4G string is simular to the black magic same feel has a little more spin also has more power
liked this string a lot as far as feel and play ability did had difficulty stringing due to memory of string and kinked a lot, also wished it came in more colors aand probably carries a high price like most luxilon strings
|08-22-2012, 04:46 PM||#159|
Join Date: Aug 2006
I am a former college player, currently rate myself a 5.0 with an all around game.
Racquet - wilson six one 95 16x18
I played with this string side by side with my usual set up.
Usual string - babolat rpm 17 at 54 lbs (my go to string for the past year, to me there is nothing out there like it, i know its not very popular on these boards)
I strung this string at 54 lbs full bed
Power- minimal power, felt like i had to work hard to get any pace. i felt rpm was far more lively.
Feel- decent feel at the net, softer than ALU but still similar. again i preferred rpm's feel.
Spin - no comparison here as this was not this particular string's strength. Rpm by a mile here.
Control - i think that this was this string's strength as it was a predictable and controlled string.
Durability - pretty decent here, about the same as i get with the rpm (3 - 4 hours).
tension - string broke after 4 hours of drilling (hit lots of balls) and the tension maintance was quite good, better than rpm (but i like when rpm drops just before it breaks)
Overall i was not impressed with this new offering from Luxilon. They said that 2 yrs in the making, i expected more. I think it was more similar to BBO in many ways which i don't mind but i found rpm blast in a different league, livelier and more user friendly. I know most think rpm is not worth the price but to each his own, i have tried many polys and continue to come back to rpm. Maybe I will try cyclone next...
Thank you tw for the opportunity to review, hope this was helpful
|08-22-2012, 06:44 PM||#160|
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Regular String Setup: Genesis Black Magic 17 @ 52 in Wilson Pro Open. I've been testing others, though.
Playtest Setup: Full stringbed @ 52 in Wilson Pro Open
Power: I would say this is low powered compared to my normal setup. I would compare the power level to Solinco Tour Bite.
Feel: Nice even feeling from the stringbed. Middle of the road compared to other poly's I've tested.
Spin: Spin was about what I would expect from this string. I would say it was a touch better than Black Magic, but nowhere near what you can get from most shaped string.
Comfort: I found this to be very comfortable for a stiffer poly string. Not as mushy as Black Magic, but I have been enjoying the crisper response.
Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): So far about 5 hours in, and it feels the same. There was an initial break-in, but seems to have evened out. Everything felt a little more crisp for the first hour or so.
Durability: A little notching, which is typical for me.
Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I feel this is where this string really shines. To me, this string is a really good combination of power, spin, and stiffness to give me a very reliable response on all shots. I felt great contol on serves, groundstrokes, and volleys.
Compare to the string you use most often
Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I would probably be interested to go down 3-4 pounds as a comparison.
Summary: The string coiled up on me a bit when stringing, but that's just because of the stiffer feel. Strangely, it doesn't play that stiff, however. I would rate this as an excellent string that provides a great combination of everything. Nothing will knock your socks off, but no real weaknesses either.
Thanks TW and Luxilon for the opportunity!
Level: NTRP 4.5
Racquet: Wilson Pro Open