If Federer does not win London Olympics

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by Sartorius

What "increasing list of blemishes" are you talking about exactly?

Oh right, there's that h2h thing.

Then, of course, there's the h2h thing.

Ooooh right right, let's not forget the h2h thing.



Federer actually mentioned before that it's the media who makes up these things and demand a player must do this or that to be considered great. But it's all up in the air.

The weak backhand is another. Forehand shanks are another.

[SLD76]

Oh FFS.

any all threads of this nature need to be banned, pure trolling.

[billnepill]

If Federer wins Olympics, is Cinci the real Olympics?

[Biscuitmcgriddleson]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Rafa is definitely the better player, we all know that. It is a matter of deciding in a few days if Federer, who has played much longer than Rafa, can be currently called the GOAT.

"Real Slam" logic at its finest.

[rommil]

Originally Posted by sureshs

I will consider Nadal to be the GOAT if Fed does not win this Olympics.

Ask your mother about delivering a joke, she is good at it.

[Federererer]

Originally Posted by sureshs

The weak backhand is another. Forehand shanks are another.

Yeah but Federer makes up for those shanks by pulling on the FH with his biceps.

[sureshs]

Did you follow the doubles result?

[MTF07]

Bad trolling is just... bad.

[Agassifan]

If Fed does not win this olympics, Nicholas Massu becomes the undisputed GOAT

[Agassifan]

Most GS titles
1. Roger Federer 17*
2. Pete Sampras 14
3. Björn Borg 11
= Rafael Nadal 11*
5. Jimmy Connors 8
= Ivan Lendl 8
= Andre Agassi 8
8. John McEnroe 7
= Mats Wilander 7
10. Stefan Edberg 6
= Boris Becker 6

GS finals
1. Roger Federer 24*
2. Ivan Lendl 19
3. Pete Sampras 18
4. Björn Borg 16
= Rafael Nadal 16*
6. Jimmy Connors 15
= Andre Agassi 15
8. John McEnroe 11
= Mats Wilander 11
= Stefan Edberg 11

Consecutive GS finals
1. Roger Federer 10
2. Roger Federer 8
3. Rafael Nadal 5
4. Andre Agassi 4
= Rod Laver 4
= Novak Djokovic 4
7. Jimmy Connors 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Mats Wilander 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Pete Sampras 3
= Rafael Nadal 3


GS semi-finals
1. Roger Federer 32*
2. Jimmy Connors 31
3. Ivan Lendl 28
4. Andre Agassi 26
5. Pete Sampras 23
6. John McEnroe 19
= Stefan Edberg 19
8. Boris Becker 18
9. Björn Borg 17
= Rafael Nadal 16*

Consecutive GS semi-finals
1. Roger Federer 23
2. Ivan Lendl 10
3. Novak Djokovic 9*
4. Ivan Lendl 6
= Nadal 6
6. Novak Djokovic 5
= Boris Becker 5
8. Roger Federer 4*
= Rod Laver 4
= Tony Roche 4
= John McEnroe 4
= Andre Agassi 4
= Jim Courer 4
= Nadal 4
= Andy Murray 4

GS quarter-finals
1. Jimmy Connors 41
2. Roger Federer 37*
3. Agassi 36
4. Ivan Lendl 34
5. Pete Sampras 29
6. John McEnroe 26
= Stefan Edberg 26
8. Boris Becker 23
= Rafael Nadal 23*
10. Björn Borg 21
= Novak Djokovic 21*

Consecutive GS quarter-finals
1. Roger Federer 33*
2. Ivan Lendl 14
3. Novak Djokovic 13*
4. Rafael Nadal 11
5. Pete Sampras 10
6. Ivan Lendl 7
= Mats Wilander 7
= Andy Murray 7
9. Andre Agassi 6
= Rafael Nadal 6

All Four Slams Per Year
Rod Laver 1969

Three Slams Per Year
Jimmy Connors 1974
Mats Wilander 1988
Roger Federer 2004
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Rafael Nadal 2010
Novak Djokovic 2011


All Four Finals Per Year
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Roger Federer 2009
Rod Laver 1969

All Four Semi-finals Per Year
Rod Laver 1969
Ivan Lendl 1987
Roger Federer 2005
Roger Federer 2006
Roger Federer 2007
Roger Federer 2008
Roger Federer 2009
Rafael Nadal 2008
Novak Djokovic 2011
Andy Murray 2011

Most consecutive matches won at one Grand Slam event:
1. Björn Borg (Wimbledon), 41
2. Roger Federer (Wimbledon), 40
= Roger Federer (US Open), 40
4. Pete Sampras (Wimbledon), 31
= Rafael Nadal (French Open), 31

Most consecutive Slams played:
1. Wayne Ferreira 56
2. Stefan Edberg 54
3. Roger Federer 51*
4. Fabrice Santoro 46
5. Dominik Hrbatý 44
6. Feliciano Lopez 42*
7. Tommy Robredo 41
8. David Ferrer 39*
9. Mark Woodforde 37
=. Jonas Björkman 37

Most Grand Slam match wins
2. Roger Federer 244*
2. Jimmy Connors 233
3. Andre Agassi 224
4. Ivan Lendl 222
5. Pete Sampras 204

Other Stuff:

Year-End Championships
1. Roger Federer 6*
2. Ivan Lendl 5
= Pete Sampras 5
4. Ilie Nastase 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Boris Becker 3

Most Weeks at #1
1. Roger Federer 287+*
2. Pete Sampras 286
3. Ivan Lendl 270
4. Jimmy Connors 268
5. John McEnroe 170
6. Björn Borg 109
7. Rafael Nadal 102*
8. Andre Agassi 101
9. Lleyton Hewitt 80
10. Stefan Edberg 72

Consecutive Weeks at #1
1. Roger Federer (1) 237
2. Jimmy Connors (1) 160
3. Ivan Lendl (1) 157
4. Pete Sampras (1) 102
5. Jimmy Connors (2) 84
6. Pete Sampras (2) 82
7. Ivan Lendl (2) 80
8. Lleyton Hewitt (1) 75
9. John McEnroe (1) 58
10. Rafael Nadal (1) 56

Year End #1
1. Sampras 6
2. Federer 5*
3. Borg 4
4. Connors 3
= Lendl 3
= McEnroe 3


Highest Season Winning Percentage
1. John McEnroe (1984) .965 82–3
2. Jimmy Connors (1974) .959 93–4
3. Roger Federer (2005) .953 81–4
4. Roger Federer (2006) .948 92–5
5. Björn Borg (1979) .933 84–6
6. Ivan Lendl (1986) .925 74–6
7. Roger Federer (2004) .925 74–6
8. Ivan Lendl (1985) .923 84–7
9. Ivan Lendl (1982) .922 106–9
10. Björn Borg (1980) .921 70–6
= Novak Djokovic (2011) 0.921 70-6

Most ATP Titles
1. Jimmy Connors 109
2. Ivan Lendl 94
3. John McEnroe 77
4. Roger Federer 75*
5. Björn Borg 64
= Pete Sampras 64
7. Guillermo Vilas 62
8. Andre Agassi 60
9. Sampras 6
= Rafael Nadal 50*
10. Boris Becker 49

Consecutive Match Win Streak
1. Björn Borg 49 1978
2. Björn Borg 48 1979–80
3. Guillermo Vilas 46 1977
4. Ivan Lendl 44 1981–82
5. Novak Djokovic 43 2010–11
6. John McEnroe 42 1984
7. Roger Federer 41 2006–07
8. Thomas Muster 35 1995
= Roger Federer 35 2005
10.Jimmy Connors 33 1974

[TennisBatman]

If Federer doesn't win the singles Gold, two things are guaranteed...

Many people will still consider him as the greatest.

He will greatly regret every one of his 2004, 2008, and 2012 (assuming it happens) Olympics losses to seemingly inferior opponents.

[timnz]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Does it relegate him to permanent non-GOATdom considering that Rio is too far away and Nadal has the Golden Career Slam and winning H2H?

I always want to ask this question of people who say that Federer is not GOAT. Alright then, who is? Surely not Nadal who is only dominated (won at least 4 or 5 times) the French Open and non other of the top 5 events (Slams + Year end finals). (Federer has dominated 4 out of 5 of the top 5 events). So who? And if your criteria is that they won every important event (and the Olympics being an 'important event' is dubious), who is the player that has done that? (Agassi didn't win the Grand Slam Cup if you were going to nominate him - and those who think that was just an exhibition - didn't see how hard those guys played it). So who is the GOAT if Federer is definitively isn't?

[djokovicgonzalez2010]

Well, we know who wins now

[Zarfot Z]

Originally Posted by TMF

750.

It takes Olympics gold + atp250 to equal to one Master Series.

I beg to differ.

Unlike a Masters, the 750 points don't have to be defended. That, and the fact that it only takes place every 4 years makes the Olympic gold just as important, if not even more.

[Sentinel]

If Fred does not win, we won't hear the end of it from sureshs and his camp. They will go berserk creating silly threads, of course, sureshs knows how to keep within the rules.

Originally Posted by rommil

Ask your mother about delivering a joke, she is good at it.

Oh SNAP !!!!

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

I doubt Federer will win an Olympic gold medal in singles. He faces John Isner next, who beat Federer indoors in 2012. He can match Federer.

[jokinla]

Right, a tournament that hadn't been played since the 20's, and was brought back in the late 80's, is somehow the determining factor of ones GOATability, obviously *******s are experiencing a lot of butthurt since Rosol crushed their spirits for Wimbledon and the Olympics. I sure hope Rafa comes back soon, I'd hate to think what could happen to all *******s if he doesn't.

[Sentinel]

Originally Posted by MTF07

Bad trolling is just... bad.

One wonders what kind of threads the venerable OP will create IF Federer does win the Windlebun. I can only predict that logical or sensible or reasonable won't be the first words that will come to mind to describe them.

[PrinceMoron]

Originally Posted by Agassifan

Most GS titles
2. Pete Sampras 14
3. Björn Borg 11
= Rafael Nadal 11*
5. Jimmy Connors 8
= Ivan Lendl 8
= Andre Agassi 8
8. John McEnroe 7
= Mats Wilander 7
10. Stefan Edberg 6
= Boris Becker 6

GS finals
2. Ivan Lendl 19
3. Pete Sampras 18
4. Björn Borg 16
= Rafael Nadal 16*
6. Jimmy Connors 15
= Andre Agassi 15
8. John McEnroe 11
= Mats Wilander 11
= Stefan Edberg 11

Consecutive GS finals
3. Rafael Nadal 5
4. Andre Agassi 4
= Rod Laver 4
= Novak Djokovic 4
7. Jimmy Connors 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Björn Borg 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Ivan Lendl 3
= Mats Wilander 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Jim Courier 3
= Pete Sampras 3
= Rafael Nadal 3


GS semi-finals

2. Jimmy Connors 31
3. Ivan Lendl 28
4. Andre Agassi 26
5. Pete Sampras 23
6. John McEnroe 19
= Stefan Edberg 19
8. Boris Becker 18
9. Björn Borg 17
= Rafael Nadal 16*

Consecutive GS semi-finals

2. Ivan Lendl 10
3. Novak Djokovic 9*
4. Ivan Lendl 6
= Nadal 6
6. Novak Djokovic 5
= Boris Becker 5
8.
= Rod Laver 4
= Tony Roche 4
= John McEnroe 4
= Andre Agassi 4
= Jim Courer 4
= Nadal 4
= Andy Murray 4

GS quarter-finals
1. Jimmy Connors 41
3. Agassi 36
4. Ivan Lendl 34
5. Pete Sampras 29
6. John McEnroe 26
= Stefan Edberg 26
8. Boris Becker 23
= Rafael Nadal 23*
10. Björn Borg 21
= Novak Djokovic 21*

Consecutive GS quarter-finals

2. Ivan Lendl 14
3. Novak Djokovic 13*
4. Rafael Nadal 11
5. Pete Sampras 10
6. Ivan Lendl 7
= Mats Wilander 7
= Andy Murray 7
9. Andre Agassi 6
= Rafael Nadal 6

All Four Slams Per Year
Rod Laver 1969

Three Slams Per Year
Jimmy Connors 1974
Mats Wilander 1988[color="Red"]
Rafael Nadal 2010
Novak Djokovic 2011


All Four Finals Per Year
Rod Laver 1969

All Four Semi-finals Per Year
Rod Laver 1969
Ivan Lendl 1987
Rafael Nadal 2008
Novak Djokovic 2011
Andy Murray 2011

Most consecutive matches won at one Grand Slam event:
1. Björn Borg (Wimbledon), 41
4. Pete Sampras (Wimbledon), 31
= Rafael Nadal (French Open), 31

Most consecutive Slams played:
1. Wayne Ferreira 56
2. Stefan Edberg 54
4. Fabrice Santoro 46
5. Dominik Hrbatý 44
6. Feliciano Lopez 42*
7. Tommy Robredo 41
8. David Ferrer 39*
9. Mark Woodforde 37
=. Jonas Björkman 37

Most Grand Slam match wins
2. Jimmy Connors 233
3. Andre Agassi 224
4. Ivan Lendl 222
5. Pete Sampras 204

Other Stuff:

Year-End Championships
2. Ivan Lendl 5
= Pete Sampras 5
4. Ilie Nastase 3
= John McEnroe 3
= Boris Becker 3

Most Weeks at #1
2. Pete Sampras 286
3. Ivan Lendl 270
4. Jimmy Connors 268
5. John McEnroe 170
6. Björn Borg 109
7. Rafael Nadal 102*
8. Andre Agassi 101
9. Lleyton Hewitt 80
10. Stefan Edberg 72

Consecutive Weeks at #1
2. Jimmy Connors (1) 160
3. Ivan Lendl (1) 157
4. Pete Sampras (1) 102
5. Jimmy Connors (2) 84
6. Pete Sampras (2) 82
7. Ivan Lendl (2) 80
8. Lleyton Hewitt (1) 75
9. John McEnroe (1) 58
10. Rafael Nadal (1) 56

Year End #1
1. Sampras 6
3. Borg 4
4. Connors 3
= Lendl 3
= McEnroe 3


Highest Season Winning Percentage
1. John McEnroe (1984) .965 82–3
2. Jimmy Connors (1974) .959 93–4
5. Björn Borg (1979) .933 84–6
6. Ivan Lendl (1986) .925 74–6
8. Ivan Lendl (1985) .923 84–7
9. Ivan Lendl (1982) .922 106–9
10. Björn Borg (1980) .921 70–6
= Novak Djokovic (2011) 0.921 70-6

Most ATP Titles
1. Jimmy Connors 109
2. Ivan Lendl 94
3. John McEnroe 77
5. Björn Borg 64
= Pete Sampras 64
7. Guillermo Vilas 62
8. Andre Agassi 60
9. Sampras 6
= Rafael Nadal 50*
10. Boris Becker 49

Consecutive Match Win Streak
1. Björn Borg 49 1978
2. Björn Borg 48 1979–80
3. Guillermo Vilas 46 1977
4. Ivan Lendl 44 1981–82
5. Novak Djokovic 43 2010–11
6. John McEnroe 42 1984
8. Thomas Muster 35 1995
10.Jimmy Connors 33 1974

Daltonism is shockingly widespread on this forum. They just can't see things the way everyone else does. We should all feel sorry for them. It is genetic, it is not their fault.

n
(Medicine) colour blindness, esp the confusion of red and green
[from French daltonisme, after John Dalton (1766-1844), English chemist and physicist, who gave the first accurate description of colour blindness, from which he suffered]
daltonic  [dɔːlˈtɒnɪk] adj

[FEDEXP]

Suresh, you are simply delusional. At first I thought Federer's chances of winning Wimbledom were not very good. And then Federer proclaimed that he would also retake number 1 in the world and I thought that was delusional.

Not so, around here it's Suresh.