What does Eat Your Volleys mean?

blastforehand · 08-02-2012, 08:44 AM

Kiteboard recently posted tips, including "Eat your volleys." I am guessing this means be aggressive with movement at the net, and/or be aggressive with mindset at the net. Problem I have is that almost every good player now has a full bag of spectacular passing shots. I find myself too often marveling at their beauty as they zing by.

r2473 · 08-02-2012, 09:06 AM

I think he meant "Wheaties"

LeeD · 08-02-2012, 09:58 AM

Move towards the incoming ball, don't let the ball play you, decreasing the amount of passing shot territory, allowing you to reach more volleys from a closer to net position.
When you hit your approach shot DTL, you camp covering the DTL, but ready to lunge forward diagonally to cut of the sharp CC dipping passing shot.

Limpinhitter · 08-02-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blastforehand

Kiteboard recently posted tips, including "Eat your volleys." I am guessing this means be aggressive with movement at the net, and/or be aggressive with mindset at the net. Problem I have is that almost every good player now has a full bag of spectacular passing shots. I find myself too often marveling at their beauty as they zing by.

Some coaches advocate leading with your head toward the ball when volleying. "Eating your volleys" seems like another way to say the same thing.

treblings · 08-02-2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blastforehand

Kiteboard recently posted tips, including "Eat your volleys." I am guessing this means be aggressive with movement at the net, and/or be aggressive with mindset at the net. Problem I have is that almost every good player now has a full bag of spectacular passing shots. I find myself too often marveling at their beauty as they zing by.

any of his tips made sense to you?

kiteboard · 08-02-2012, 06:34 PM

I stole this tip from an author at tp.net. It means, go after the volley with aggressive fast feet and fast hands, and seek to destroy the shot, and don't let a slow incoming ball determine the internal speed of your own rhythm. Eat the shot as if you are at a table with a lot of hungry siblings who are after your food! How many floaters have you missed due to slowing your feet/arm/hands down due to slow incoming speed? It's an energy focus, on speed of foot/hand/eye.

Play to improve and forget about the score card. (This will remove all tension/fear/rhythm issues.)

Practice like you play and play like you practice. (This will inure you to match play. Serve the same, change deuce/ad, return, rally as competitively.)

Eat your volleys. (Attack them with fast feet/hand/eye and stomp on them with leading hit foot.)

Get into shape. (Not so easy when you are in your fifties and lugging a gut!)

Racquet speed on all shots. (Trust the grass hopper within and speed up other than touch or drops.)

Focus energy on quick core rotation. (The only thing between elite players and non elite is their speed of rotation off core, not form, not emotions, not focus.)

Footwork first. (Unit turn fast, wait fast, rotate fast, only with fast feet hands eyes no matter incoming speed/spin/pace.)

Learn the right form and tape yourself to prove it's right. (NO consensus here. You have to have the guts to decide what is right and film yourself to see how far off you really are.)

Believe you can change. (YOu can always improve something with will, desire, training, intensity, focus on energy.)

Believe you will improve. (And you will.)

Unit turn sideways very fast and wait for the ball. (The only thing all pros have in common from slo mo studies.)

Coil diagonally on groundies. (Even off open stance, this diagonal coil will give your shots more load.)

Defend your contact point. (MOre than meets the eye. Arm bar point, spot on strings, angle of attack, focus of energy, sureness of shot/rhythm/internal energy.)

Learn lull-jam-finish modes. (Lull is don't miss, jam is high spin, high speed, change of depth, change of ht., change of bounce so it jams/slows/ opp. internal body speed/rhythm.)

Practice a lot of serve and returning. (See all of the above, as it's the first shot than counts the most: second serve defense, return attacks will always determine who wins.)

When serving, hit all types to all areas of the box. (And all spins/hts., so you can do it in a match.)

When returning, keep arms further out, shorter shot, with less rpms, and only one lunge step to cover.

Learn the advanced split step. (Perpendicular off landing your split will turn/rotate your upper body on landing.)

Take anti cramp supplement: red clover, sage, nettles, salt. (No cramps, and will increase stamina.)

Don't show emotion. (Only helps your opp. underlying mind believe he will beat you and is winning.)

Believe you will come back and visualize it. (Create your own reality.)

Everyone has weak points. Know your own. (Most of us: high bh, serving bombs, forcing errors off serves or returns, bh period, too many errors when hitting attacking shots.)

I would add: to improve the serve you have to be able to move your hand faster and learn to leg drive into that hand speed so that you create a vicious whip lash upwards, and pronate forwards towards the net, not downwards.. Hand speed is more changeable than most realize.

To improve returns: shorten length of shot, extend arms out more than on groundies, one lunge step only, keep chest angled forward, and shoulder angle down towards the net, use aggressive hand speed, decide where you are going to hit it first before serve is hit, treat second serves like the weak crappy *** shots they are.

Learn which string and frame applies best, and which tension and method. Use silicone in handle: 25g. Use lead on frame for more plow through. Change tension on crosses to increase pocket where you are notching the most on mains, as that is your true contact point.

5263 · 08-02-2012, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limpinhitter

Some coaches advocate leading with your head toward the ball when volleying. "Eating your volleys" seems like another way to say the same thing.

this made more sense to me.

kiteboard · 08-02-2012, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5263

this made more sense to me.

that works too, as you have to move well to place your mouth/head near the volley, but it's more of an energy/speed of hungry attack. It's a hunger to hit the volley I was really talking about. Desire to destroy it. Like seeing a hundred dollar bill on the street and going after it.

Avles · 08-02-2012, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiteboard

It means, go after the volley with aggressive fast feet and fast hands, and seek to destroy the shot, and don't let a slow incoming ball determine the internal speed of your own rhythm. Eat the shot as if you are at a table with a lot of hungry siblings who are after your food!

I think this video will help get at what Kiteboard is talking about here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HPI_HT6yjo

TheCheese · 08-03-2012, 09:04 AM

Probably keep your racket out in front and not too far away from your body.

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08-02-2012, 06:34 PM	#6
kiteboard Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 3,911	I stole this tip from an author at tp.net. It means, go after the volley with aggressive fast feet and fast hands, and seek to destroy the shot, and don't let a slow incoming ball determine the internal speed of your own rhythm. Eat the shot as if you are at a table with a lot of hungry siblings who are after your food! How many floaters have you missed due to slowing your feet/arm/hands down due to slow incoming speed? It's an energy focus, on speed of foot/hand/eye. Play to improve and forget about the score card. (This will remove all tension/fear/rhythm issues.) Practice like you play and play like you practice. (This will inure you to match play. Serve the same, change deuce/ad, return, rally as competitively.) Eat your volleys. (Attack them with fast feet/hand/eye and stomp on them with leading hit foot.) Get into shape. (Not so easy when you are in your fifties and lugging a gut!) Racquet speed on all shots. (Trust the grass hopper within and speed up other than touch or drops.) Focus energy on quick core rotation. (The only thing between elite players and non elite is their speed of rotation off core, not form, not emotions, not focus.) Footwork first. (Unit turn fast, wait fast, rotate fast, only with fast feet hands eyes no matter incoming speed/spin/pace.) Learn the right form and tape yourself to prove it's right. (NO consensus here. You have to have the guts to decide what is right and film yourself to see how far off you really are.) Believe you can change. (YOu can always improve something with will, desire, training, intensity, focus on energy.) Believe you will improve. (And you will.) Unit turn sideways very fast and wait for the ball. (The only thing all pros have in common from slo mo studies.) Coil diagonally on groundies. (Even off open stance, this diagonal coil will give your shots more load.) Defend your contact point. (MOre than meets the eye. Arm bar point, spot on strings, angle of attack, focus of energy, sureness of shot/rhythm/internal energy.) Learn lull-jam-finish modes. (Lull is don't miss, jam is high spin, high speed, change of depth, change of ht., change of bounce so it jams/slows/ opp. internal body speed/rhythm.) Practice a lot of serve and returning. (See all of the above, as it's the first shot than counts the most: second serve defense, return attacks will always determine who wins.) When serving, hit all types to all areas of the box. (And all spins/hts., so you can do it in a match.) When returning, keep arms further out, shorter shot, with less rpms, and only one lunge step to cover. Learn the advanced split step. (Perpendicular off landing your split will turn/rotate your upper body on landing.) Take anti cramp supplement: red clover, sage, nettles, salt. (No cramps, and will increase stamina.) Don't show emotion. (Only helps your opp. underlying mind believe he will beat you and is winning.) Believe you will come back and visualize it. (Create your own reality.) Everyone has weak points. Know your own. (Most of us: high bh, serving bombs, forcing errors off serves or returns, bh period, too many errors when hitting attacking shots.) I would add: to improve the serve you have to be able to move your hand faster and learn to leg drive into that hand speed so that you create a vicious whip lash upwards, and pronate forwards towards the net, not downwards.. Hand speed is more changeable than most realize. To improve returns: shorten length of shot, extend arms out more than on groundies, one lunge step only, keep chest angled forward, and shoulder angle down towards the net, use aggressive hand speed, decide where you are going to hit it first before serve is hit, treat second serves like the weak crappy *** shots they are. Learn which string and frame applies best, and which tension and method. Use silicone in handle: 25g. Use lead on frame for more plow through. Change tension on crosses to increase pocket where you are notching the most on mains, as that is your true contact point. Last edited by kiteboard : 08-02-2012 at 06:53 PM.

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