Why all the accusations of doping?

[baseline_monster]

Just wondering why since the Chinese swimmer was accused of doping, everyone is accusing anyone better of being a drugs cheat!? In any sport there are players who are acceptional and train harder than the others, this means they want it more and achieve their potential, it does not mean they are dopping or a drugs cheat. I have scene guys questioning Nadal, Federer and even Laver on here today for silly reasons, I am a bit lost by it to be honest.Thoughts?

[The Bawss]

Thoughts? I am concerned that you wrote the homonym "scene" in the place of "seen".

[baseline_monster]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

Thoughts? I am concerned that you wrote the homonym "scene" in the place of "seen".

There is a thing called auto type on apple products. But thanks for the English lesson, very constructive yet fails to be appropriate.

[Seany]

It's the new fad.

Personally, the only player I have truly suspected of doping is David Ferrer :

-Literally Unbelievable stamina

-Randomly resurrects a sinking career in 2009/10, flying down the rankings out of the top 20 for a while, then surges into the top 5

-Ridiculously large upper body muscles for a tennis player, have you seen him without a shirt? BEAST

-Huge muscles all over his body, unnecessary for a tennis player, signs of steroids.

-Was never as large or had as good stamina in the first part of his career, only after he returned to the top 5, got fitter as he got older?

I could be doing him a huge diservice, I have no doubt he works hard, but I have always thought he might be using illegal substances to help.

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by baseline_monster

There is a thing called auto type on apple products. But thanks for the English lesson, very constructive yet fails to be appropriate.

Any time, brah.

Oh my 2p?

I believe there is doping around, that is almost unquestionable. In any sport where money or fame is involved people will do anything to get ahead. This probably seems like a very pessimistic view but put yourself in the place of an olympian where winning gold or not winning gold determines the outcome of your life. Glory, distinctions, accolades, endorsement deals, etc. For some olympians you get a chance once or twice in your life, fail and you are a nobody who has wasted their entire life training. Win and you are immortalised. You understand the appeal.

"If there is so much doping around then why are people rarely caught?". As a person who works in a similar line of work to those who develop drugs used for doping (willingly or unwillingly), I appreciate how much easier it is to make an undetectable performance-enhancing substance than it is to detect such a substance in the blood (other methods would be far more powerful but much too invasive to ever have a hope of being employed). Unfortunately, dopers will always be ahead of the curve in my opinion.

[baseline_monster]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

Any time, brah.

With pleasure! How is Nottingham, still attempting to play football in the shaddow of a once decent club?

[baseline_monster]

Originally Posted by Seany

It's the new fad.

Personally, the only player I have truly suspected of doping is David Ferrer :

-Literally Unbelievable stamina

-Randomly resurrects a sinking career in 2009/10, flying down the rankings out of the top 20 for a while, then surges into the top 5

-Ridiculously large upper body muscles for a tennis player, have you seen him without a shirt? BEAST

-Huge muscles all over his body, unnecessary for a tennis player, signs of steroids.

-Was never as large or had as good stamina in the first part of his career, only after he returned to the top 5, got fitter as he got older?

I could be doing him a huge diservice, I have no doubt he works hard, but I have always thought he might be using illegal substances to help.

It's hard to say but I can see wherer you are coming from. I have allways been suspicious about Davydenko, similar reasons to you. He was a no one, had a great French open in 2005 I think, few decent years then now can hardly hit a decent ball!

[RF_fan]

Originally Posted by Seany

It's the new fad.

Personally, the only player I have truly suspected of doping is David Ferrer :

-Literally Unbelievable stamina

-Randomly resurrects a sinking career in 2009/10, flying down the rankings out of the top 20 for a while, then surges into the top 5

-Ridiculously large upper body muscles for a tennis player, have you seen him without a shirt? BEAST

-Huge muscles all over his body, unnecessary for a tennis player, signs of steroids.

-Was never as large or had as good stamina in the first part of his career, only after he returned to the top 5, got fitter as he got older?

I could be doing him a huge diservice, I have no doubt he works hard, but I have always thought he might be using illegal substances to help.

It's a well known fact that all top cyclist dope, and they don't have big muscles. Also most of them never get caught and these guys get tested almost every day during Tour de France. How easy would it be to pass 1 single blood test during 2 weeks of a Grand Slam?

[baseline_monster]

Originally Posted by RF_fan

It's a well known fact that all top cyclist dope, and they don't have big muscles. Also most of them never get caught and these guys get tested almost every day during Tour de France. How easy would it be to pass 1 single blood test during 2 weeks of a Grand Slam?

It is not a well known fact at all... a few maybe, but not all. Wiggins is not a drugs cheat and he just went and won the Tour de France and Olympic time trial in 10 days, it's called dedication IMO until proven otherwise.

[Kunohara]

Originally Posted by baseline_monster

Wiggins is not a drugs cheat and he just went and won the Tour de France and Olympic time trial in 10 days, it's called dedication IMO until proven otherwise.

YEA. You keep believing that.

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by baseline_monster

With pleasure! How is Nottingham, still attempting to play football in the shaddow of a once decent club?

Lol, right in the childhood.

[tistrapukcipeht]

There is one thing ugly about us Americans is we don't know how to lose, I've seen many American athletes just show some real poor composure when losing. If the Chinese girls has the talent and she's winning just accept, if she is doping I don't know how Phelps is still alive.

Nadal may as well be, reasons already explained hundreds of times here.

[RF_fan]

Originally Posted by baseline_monster

It is not a well known fact at all... a few maybe, but not all. Wiggins is not a drugs cheat and he just went and won the Tour de France and Olympic time trial in 10 days, it's called dedication IMO until proven otherwise.

Lets see... Lance was on dope but was smart enough to never get caught. Ulrich, Basso, Vinokurov, Landis, Contador, etc... And if you use common sense then if Contador was on juice and the other top cyclists were really clean - then it wouldn't even be close.

[Kunohara]

It's simple.

Nadal got caught at Wimby and is under a silent ban. He isnt actually injured. He never really had knee issues. They're just an excuse he's using to get a TUE for PRP.

And now the Nadaltards are roid raging.

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by RF_fan

Lets see... Lance was on dope but was smart enough to never get caught. Ulrich, Basso, Vinokurov, Landis, Contador, etc... And if you use common sense then if Contador was on juice and the other top cyclists were really clean - then it wouldn't even be close.

PEDs don't automatically make you 50% better than your competition. It usually only gives you a slight, but significant edge.

[RF_fan]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

PEDs don't automatically make you 50% better than your competition. It usually only gives you a slight, but significant edge.

Not 50% of course, but I've read somewhere it's about 5%. Like you said - significant edge, which is enough to blow the competition if others are clean

[ubermeyer]

Did anyone actually accuse Laver? That's hilarious. Accusing Federer or Nadal is ridiculous too, although Nadal does have humongous muscles so I can see where that comes from.

[Kunohara]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

PEDs don't automatically make you 50% better than your competition. It usually only gives you a slight, but significant edge.

As far as cycling goes, it's more than slight.

[baseline_monster]

Nadal had massive arms from being in the gym everyday, and they wearnt actually that massive. I have friends who train natural 5 times a week with bigger biceps.

[baseline_monster]

Originally Posted by Kunohara

It's simple.

Nadal got caught at Wimby and is under a silent ban. He isnt actually injured. He never really had knee issues. They're just an excuse he's using to get a TUE for PRP.

And now the Nadaltards are roid raging.

This is hilarious