Armstrong drops fight against doping charges

[Mustard]

If Armstrong really was this all powerful, why was the federal investigation dropped? Did Armstrong buy off the US police and judiciary as well?

[Bartelby]

Armstrong is american and the us justice system is highly politicised and lacking in independence.

[Bartelby]

The fact that Armstrong paid money to the UCI is not in dispute.

[golfer]

I went through the same cancer as lance but 4 times worse. I had the same nurses and doctors. I know their feelings about lance. I know very well if he could have ever won 1 or 7 years on that bike after treatments. If you ever seen the new iupui hospital upgrades you understand why I will thank lance. I hate the ill gotten way it happened but I didn't poster myself for cancer research bringing in millions. Do I give him a free pass today, nope! during his streak everyone did because his name =charity. He showed surviving cancer wasn't a foot in the grave. If lance wasn't on that bike kicking *** I would have given up believing I could have a normal life after my treatments. I'm just showing why many people looked pass what he did.

As for myself if you know testicular cancer and the beta hcg test here was my marker 385,000.

[Dedans Penthouse]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

Armstrong is american and the us justice system is highly politicised and lacking in independence.

Posting idiotic generalizations (even from a mean-spirited, agenda-driven misanthrope such as yourself) doesn't excuse you from observing the proper useage of upper case lettering when referring to specific nationalities, languages, ethnic groups and religions.

american..us...Armstrong....yes, I saw what you (purposely) did there...such petulance ...tsk, tsk...

[r2473]

Originally Posted by golfer

I went through the same cancer as lance but 4 times worse. I had the same nurses and doctors. I know their feelings about lance. I know very well if he could have ever won 1 or 7 years on that bike after treatments. If you ever seen the new iupui hospital upgrades you understand why I will thank lance. I hate the ill gotten way it happened but I didn't poster myself for cancer research bringing in millions. Do I give him a free pass today, nope! during his streak everyone did because his name =charity. He showed surviving cancer wasn't a foot in the grave. If lance wasn't on that bike kicking *** I would have given up believing I could have a normal life after my treatments. I'm just showing why many people looked pass what he did.

As for myself if you know testicular cancer and the beta hcg test here was my marker 385,000.

No matter how all this turns out for Lance, nobody can deny that the man has done a lot of good for a lot of people.

Congrats golfer on being a fighter......and a survivor.

[maleyoyo]

Originally Posted by r2473

No matter how all this turns out for Lance, nobody can deny that the man has done a lot of good for a lot of people.

“When Lance Armstrong celebrated his record-breaking seventh Tour de France title in 2005, he made the following prescient speech: "I'll say to the people who don't believe, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles."

“Others may struggle with the contradictions of a man ostensibly promoting health while compelling team-mates to take illegal and untested drugs, of a fund-raiser who ran a team that fraudulently received "tens of millions of American taxpayer dollars in funding", of an inspirational figure who cheated to achieve the very triumphs he is venerated for. “

“For some, none of that matters. Armstrong, through his foundation, has raised an estimated $500m to fight cancer. That is enough, for those unsurprised or unmoved by sporting fraud, to forever hold him in unquestionable esteem. “

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19907683

[Bartelby]

I'm merely following most commentary in suggesting that there is no desire to prosecute armstrong in the us justice system and if you promise to publish my posts in a book I'll observe proper usage.

Originally Posted by Dedans Penthouse

Posting idiotic generalizations (even from a mean-spirited, agenda-driven misanthrope such as yourself) doesn't excuse you from observing the proper useage of upper case lettering when referring to specific nationalities, languages, ethnic groups and religions.

american..us...Armstrong....yes, I saw what you (purposely) did there...such petulance ...tsk, tsk...

[pushing_wins]

in the grand scheme of things, how does this compare with tiger, kobe, mcguire, bonds scandals?

[sapient007]

Originally Posted by r2473

No matter how all this turns out for Lance, nobody can deny that the man has done a lot of good for a lot of people.

Congrats golfer on being a fighter......and a survivor.

oh michael jackson. how you make beautiful music and give to charity while fondling little kids.

[Bartelby]

What does the phrase 'fight cancer' exactly mean, if anything?

I'm not a very cheery fellow, admittedly, but things like bodily disease and decay aren't something that a bright, white smile can gainsay.

I do realise that powerful people like to wave regally at their philanthropy to justify their corruption, but nothing justifies the unjustifiable.

[pushing_wins]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

What does the phrase 'fight cancer' exactly mean, if anything?

I'm not a very cheery fellow, admittedly, but things like bodily disease and decay aren't something that a bright, white smile can gainsay.

I do realise that powerful people like to wave regally at their philanthropy to justify their corruption, but nothing justifies the unjustifiable.

isnt that the reason for living in the first place?

[pushing_wins]

one secret vs inspiration and dreams of millions?

[adventure]

Originally Posted by pushing_wins

one secret vs inspiration and dreams of millions?

There are many secrets, but they are not secret any longer. Instead, there is massive denial. And you can't be inspired by a fraud, only duped.

Lance is a sociopathic con artist on a grand scale. But it just goes to show, the more often you repeat a lie, the more people there are who will believe it.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

What does the phrase 'fight cancer' exactly mean, if anything?

I'm not a very cheery fellow, admittedly, but things like bodily disease and decay aren't something that a bright, white smile can gainsay.

I do realise that powerful people like to wave regally at their philanthropy to justify their corruption, but nothing justifies the unjustifiable.

fight cancer means having brain surgery after months/ years of chemo didn't completely work. Being ill having fevers,rashes taking blood tests weekly. Cleaning ports having blood cloats, getting blood transfusions when you have half the blood of a normal person. Having iv feed you cause of the sores in your throat. Receiving a stem cell transplant is so painful. Then, the extreme pain from bones being forced to produce cells. Having to drink that crap for ct scans every few months.

[Sentinel]

is that you, e e cummings ?

[Bartelby]

I know what it means to fight cancer as an individual.

My point was only made with reference to the idea that something as multifarious as cancer is something that is defeatable.

I don't believe in such pervasive technological optimism.

Originally Posted by golfer

fight cancer means having brain surgery after months/ years of chemo didn't completely work. Being ill having fevers,rashes taking blood tests weekly. Cleaning ports having blood cloats, getting blood transfusions when you have half the blood of a normal person. Having iv feed you cause of the sores in your throat. Receiving a stem cell transplant is so painful. Then, the extreme pain from bones being forced to produce cells. Having to drink that crap for ct scans every few months.

[Bartelby]

Cummings ist der Dichter.

[anhuynh16]

From Twitter(Darren Rovell):

"BREAKING: Nike has terminated the contract of Lance Armstrong. More to come on http://ESPN.com . "

[Bartelby]

... and he's stepping down as chairman of his charity.