Armstrong drops fight against doping charges

[TennisLovaLova]

The uci kept the secret for 10 years
What a shame really

[chrischris]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Yeah, I know French media was hot on his trails all these years. But the US media tried to spin that into the French being po'ed about an American winning their event and fed into Lance's BS. Where there's so much smoke, there's gotta be fire, I always thought. We threw Landis overboard so quickly yet even today there's still folks that'll defend Lance. Part of that is the cancer and stuff he's done there, but that shouldn't excuse the years of cheating and lying and bullying by LA.

Yeah its a balls up anyhow for LA.

[MAXXply]

I was kinda hoping the ravishing and delectable Francesca Rossi would get a few more opportunities to speak during the media conference, but McQuaid spoke the most, understandably.

[TennisLovaLova]

it's a real shame for the other pro cyclists who did nothing wrong and never used ped's
LA cheated and now all the sport is under suspicion, less sponsors, less everything
a shame
imagine if that happened in tennis...

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

for the other pro cyclists who did nothing wrong

if there were any of those any of those years I would be amazed. Doping in cycling was at an all time high, teams were found with human growth syndrome flooding out of their team vans.

[pushing_wins]

i applaud the resolve and good work of all those involved in arriving at this decision

[sureshs]

UCI accepting USADA decision doesn't mean the allegations are true.

If civil cases are filed, let us see if the courts accept this evidence. I don't think the "evidence" can stand judicial scrutiny, both from the forensic science point of view and the lack of due process.

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by sureshs

UCI accepting USADA decision doesn't mean the allegations are true.

If civil cases are filed, let us see if the courts accept this evidence. I don't think the "evidence" can stand judicial scrutiny, both from the forensic science point of view and the lack of due process.

Lance has dropped fighting the case so there wont be any civil cases filed. He has already thrown up the white flag and surrendered. As for allegations being true 95% already viewed them true years ago anyway.

[r2473]

Armstrong drops fight against doping charges

I don't think Neil Armstrong was doping, but I'm pretty sure the moon landings were faked.

[FastFreddy]

So glad the UCI stripped away all 7 TDF wins. Next take away his medal at the games for 3rd place. Oakley dropped him today I think that makes 9 companies. Anyone see the ESPN show on Ben Johnson? Carl Lewis was juiced on HGH ie needing braces at 27 and tested postive for meth and two other drugs. Wonder if Ben's doc gave him the cheap winstrol -v or did Carl's buddy put it in Ben's drink maybe both?

[Tennishacker]

What are the best solutions to doping problem in pro cycling?

Doping is a cat and mouse game, there's gotta be a better solution to doping issues.

I personally feel that doping is similar to pot, just legalize it.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Lance has dropped fighting the case so there wont be any civil cases filed. He has already thrown up the white flag and surrendered. As for allegations being true 95% already viewed them true years ago anyway.

Civil cases are being filed by people who contributed to his charities. If the claim is that he misled them, then to prove that it has to be shown that the evidence can stand up in court, since he has denied the charges.

[adventure]

Originally Posted by sureshs

UCI accepting USADA decision doesn't mean the allegations are true.

If civil cases are filed, let us see if the courts accept this evidence. I don't think the "evidence" can stand judicial scrutiny, both from the forensic science point of view and the lack of due process.

Santa Clause is p----- right now because people don't believe in him. Santa's joining the tooth fairy, the easter bunny, the loch ness monster, and sasquatch in filing defamation and libel suits against people who have LIED and said they don't exist.

The war is on.

[adventure]

Originally Posted by sureshs

UCI accepting USADA decision doesn't mean the allegations are true.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=denial

[pushing_wins]

Originally Posted by sureshs

UCI accepting USADA decision doesn't mean the allegations are true.

If civil cases are filed, let us see if the courts accept this evidence. I don't think the "evidence" can stand judicial scrutiny, both from the forensic science point of view and the lack of due process.

the reverse is also true.

a non-conviction doesnt mean he is not guilty

[chrischris]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

The uci kept the secret for 10 years
What a shame really

Why would they do that? Are they clean?

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by pushing_wins

the reverse is also true.

a non-conviction doesnt mean he is not guilty

It does, actually. Otherwise, you are guilty of murder (because you have not been convicted).

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by sureshs

UCI accepting USADA decision doesn't mean the allegations are true.

It means that the UCI have caved in to outside pressure.

Originally Posted by pushing_wins

the reverse is also true.

a non-conviction doesnt mean he is not guilty

Except that it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way round. Armstrong shouldn't have to prove his innocence. The USADA case is based on plea bargains, people with grudges, and all sorts of purely circumstantial stuff. They say that Armstrong is some sort of drugs mule and everyone is just supposed to believe it.

[db379]

Originally Posted by Mustard

It means that the UCI have caved in to outside pressure.



Except that it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way round. Armstrong shouldn't have to prove his innocence. The USADA case is based on plea bargains, people with grudges, and all sorts of purely circumstantial stuff.

...and 7 Tour de France.

[db379]

Originally Posted by sureshs

It does, actually. Otherwise, you are guilty of murder (because you have not been convicted).

hello??? Ground control to major ....