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Old 08-16-2009, 09:16 AM   #1
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Default Is Murray a zero slam wonder?

I think so. And he'll never win one.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:18 AM   #2
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me too, he will never win one, he will get close everytime though
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:20 AM   #3
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I think he will definitely win the US open at some point.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:21 AM   #4
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I think so. And he'll never win one.
Murray needs antother dimension to his game (he's likely not to add) if he's ever to defeat Federer in a GS final.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:22 AM   #5
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i think he'll win a few. high tennis IQ, strokes are strong and consistent, extremely fit, and a great server (with the exception of his 2nd). i can imagine him improving more, too.
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I think he'll have trouble with more than just federer.
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Murray needs antother dimension to his game (he's likely not to add) if he's ever to defeat Federer in a GS final.
Yep. We can ignore the six times Murray has beaten Roger - it's like they never happened really. Instead we should focus on the one time Roger has played Murray in a slam and extrapolate all sorts of exotic conclusions from that match.

That seems a sensible approach.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:27 AM   #8
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It'll be a sad day for tennis if Murray ever wins a slam playing defensively, waiting for opponents' UEs.
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I think he will definitely win the US open at some point.
Agree, 1-2 Us Opens and 1-2 Wimbledons.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:31 AM   #10
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I just hopped in to my time machine and made a short trip to 2098, and yes Murray is a zero slam wonder.

If you want to know about Federer and Nadal... Well, that's not for free.
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It'll be a sad day for tennis if Murray ever wins a slam playing defensively, waiting for opponents' UEs.
This i can agree with 100%, but if it pays ur bills i wouldnt change it.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:33 AM   #12
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No he is not but his backboarding annoys me especially when he has so many weapons to his credit.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:34 AM   #13
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He's the world's best club player.

That's what he is.
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Yep. We can ignore the six times Murray has beaten Roger - it's like they never happened really. Instead we should focus on the one time Roger has played Murray in a slam and extrapolate all sorts of exotic conclusions from that match.

That seems a sensible approach.
Yes, because in your partisan desperation to pump Murray, you wish to gloss over the OP-relevant issue: the slams--which has to include a consideration of the USO result. It is no secret Federer has a history of turning up his levels of talent at the slams to win (proven at this year's FO & W), so it is more than dishonest to skip over the actual GS event evidence, Federer's gear-changing approach to the slams coupled with the high probability that Murray does not have the goods to defeat Federer in a slam final.

Until Murray beats him in a slam final, you are avoiding the facts in favor of personal desire. Nice display of fandom, but not realistic.

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He's the world's best club player.

That's what he is.
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i think he'll win a few. high tennis IQ, strokes are strong and consistent, extremely fit, and a great server (with the exception of his 2nd). i can imagine him improving more, too.
He doesn't attack enough, his attacking game is strong but he mainly plays defense, if he had a higher tennis IQ this would not be so
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:45 AM   #16
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Until he starts attacking he's not going to win a slam. He gets way too defensive in the big situations. That's not how you win a slam. You take it from your opponent.
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Until he starts attacking he's not going to win a slam. He gets way too defensive in the big situations. That's not how you win a slam. You take it from your opponent.
THANK YOU!!!

That's the other "dimension" I hinted at earlier; with his reach and height, there's in no sense in his not using that as an advantage all over the court; approach and cover the net (not suggesting he converts to pure S&V) and force errors out of other's attempts to pass him. Again, he has the reach and height, so he could "take the fight" to opponents instead of recieving/responding his way through matches. Imagine how that could change his game (and throw in the random element at those who expect the same strategy from him).

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Old 08-16-2009, 11:00 AM   #18
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He can win one for sure, but with other talents like Del Potro ,Djokovic, Nadal and Federer for a few more years it is not going to be easy. He needs to be more consistent at slams if he wants to win. I am pretty sure other talents will emerge as well in a couple of years (3 to 4 years), if he hasn't won one by then it could become difficult for him to win one. It is a possibility that he will end up with none, but very unlikely for now.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:29 AM   #19
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yes, no, mabay... only time will tell
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:34 AM   #20
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The guy is 22! He has plenty of time to win grandslams. You people are acting like hes 30 years old
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