The greatest instuctional video for 1 handers

[LeeD]

That probably is not LeeD. He doesn't need to limp off his gimpy leg.
OTOH, his serve is probably better than my right handed serve...or at least, more consistent.

[Red Sunset]

Sorry LeeD. Couldn't resist

[UCSF2012]

And she's using the n90. See people, girls use the 90's without problem. Granted, she can take Serena Williams in a wrestling match. But still, it's a girl using the n90!

[albesca]

[quote=sureshs;6908768]Not an instructional video per se, but excellent learning material:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_0md...eature=related

What i've noticed is She does what i never do with my forehand: search the ball out in front for the contact !!

I wait the ball drops down to my ideal highness ...

other thing i like how she varies the stance ....

thank you sureshs

[sureshs]

[quote=albesca;6912076]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Not an instructional video per se, but excellent learning material:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_0md...eature=related

What i've noticed is She does what i never do with my forehand: search the ball out in front for the contact !!

I wait the ball drops down to my ideal highness ...

other thing i like how she varies the stance ....

thank you sureshs

I also like how she uses closed stance for forehand when she can, and open stance for farther balls.

[LeeD]

Doesn't everyone do that?
Short balls, you have time after the bounce, so you can move feet.
Deep balls, since you started split step sideways, it's quicker to just hit from there.
Not rocket science, everyone does it, doen't they?

[sureshs]

I am sure they do, LeeD. For us lesser players, emphasis does not hurt.

[LeeD]

Well, for instance, return of serves.
If it's a slow serve, most of us move our feet.
If it's a flat heater, we only have time to turn our shoulders.
Just like in volleys. If it's slow incoming, we move feet. If it's a heater, we turn our shoulders.

[sureshs]

But don't you remember the big debate about open stance being the desired teaching goal on the modern forehand? I think the women are much more sideways than an open stance. Sometimes it is closed stance with the gravity step (right foot taken back behind front), sometimes more semi closed (right foot taken back but not till behind the front), and sometimes true closed stance with actual stepping forward with the left foot.

[albesca]

i'm not able to search the ball ahead because i am obsessioned about the highness of the contact.

Maybe i must free myself from this conditioning and shift the weight independing from the high of the ball.

neutral stance is perfect for weight transfer at low medium speed of the ball .. and at club level, the most of the shots are low speed shots... open stance, imo, isn't the ideal stance for weight transfer against low speed balls.

but club level players love to hit like the pros ...

[LeeD]

Possibly you forgot that "club" players have late recogition of the ball, don't move nearly as well, and aren't used to hard shots, so the movement required is EXACTLY the same as for top level players, only less court is covered.
A "club" player has never seen Monfil's forehand, Milo's serves, or Nada's topspins, so his expectation level is much lower.
The need for desperation shots is just as needed in club level as for the pros.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by albesca

i'm not able to search the ball ahead because i am obsessioned about the highness of the contact.

Maybe i must free myself from this conditioning and shift the weight independing from the high of the ball.

neutral stance is perfect for weight transfer at low medium speed of the ball .. and at club level, the most of the shots are low speed shots... open stance, imo, isn't the ideal stance for weight transfer against low speed balls.

but club level players love to hit like the pros ...

By neutral stance do you mean right leg going behind the left (for a rightie forehand)?

[LeeD]

I take the guys who say "modern" forehands are hit with open stances. That is pure theory, not backed by any of the top players on tour today.
Why?
OK, if a ball is coming to you short, it's probably going to bounce low and short also, right? Well, you gotta get off your chair and get forwards, hence the close stance, which allows you to tranfer weight forewards...just like the split step setup sideways when you are waiting for the opponent to hit the ball somewhere, or the overhead foot movement needed to get back ..NOT backpeddle, to the ball that is over your head.
So you hit open stance sometimes. Why? Because the depth is there, the ball will get to you, no need to move forwards to it, never back up. Open allows you to recover quicker.
Forget the "moderness" of the stroke, think of the practicality.

[sureshs]

What about when there is a choice between open and neutral?

[LeeD]

Where there's a choice, choose the footwork needed to win the point.
If you're stretched a bit off to your forehand side, and you're not going for a winner, go open. If you're stretched a bit, but now going for all or nothing, close your stance.
Balls hit into your sweetspot the same. INTENT has a bearing on your footwork.
Going for a winner, your recovery position or quickness is not important.
Going for another rally ball, you'd better get your butt back to center of intersect.

[Limpinhitter]

Check out the drive slice she hits on a high backhand at about 1:10. The ball is over head height and she cranks it with excellent drive slice technique.

So, for all you 1hb players who complain about how to hit high backhands, this is how you do it.

[albesca]

Originally Posted by sureshs

By neutral stance do you mean right leg going behind the left (for a rightie forehand)?

yes, and stepping on front foot ( left foot )

[goober]

Originally Posted by Red Sunset

I like her backhand, but I found it very hard not to focus on LeeD hitting on the court behind her.

lol- that hack hitting next to her is nice contrast of good form versus terrible form.

[LeeD]

OTOH, 98% of us on the internet can't compare with her tennis skills.

[Limpinhitter]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Possibly you forgot that "club" players have late recogition of the ball, don't move nearly as well, and aren't used to hard shots, so the movement required is EXACTLY the same as for top level players, only less court is covered.
A "club" player has never seen Monfil's forehand, Milo's serves, or Nada's topspins, so his expectation level is much lower.
The need for desperation shots is just as needed in club level as for the pros.

Sureshs has late recognition of his late recognition.