Nadal: Indoor tennis is not real tennis

[merlinpinpin]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

Weren't those comments taken out of context or were the product of poor spanish to english translation?I believe Nadal said that he did not find that Sampras vs Ivanisevic match at Wimbledon to be entertaining. I don't think he said that it was not really tennis.

He said both, actually. There you go:

Current Generation More Enjoyable
Rafael Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport. "Personally, to watch a Pete Sampras versus Goran Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable," the 10-time major champion told The Evening Standard. "It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. It was less eye-catching than what we do now. Everyone enjoys the tennis we play much more. I am not saying we are playing better tennis, just more enjoyable tennis. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Day-Five.aspx

[mistik]

Originally Posted by merlinpinpin

He said both, actually. There you go:

Current Generation More Enjoyable
Rafael Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport. "Personally, to watch a Pete Sampras versus Goran Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable," the 10-time major champion told The Evening Standard. "It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. It was less eye-catching than what we do now. Everyone enjoys the tennis we play much more. I am not saying we are playing better tennis, just more enjoyable tennis. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Day-Five.aspx

He didnt mean they are playing better tennis he means it is more exciting ı agree with him.

[merlinpinpin]

Originally Posted by mistik

He didnt mean they are playing better tennis he means it is more exciting ı agree with him.

I never said anything about "better" or "worse", that was your take on it. I just said that he *had* stated that the 90's weren't real tennis, in answer to a previous post.

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by merlinpinpin

He said both, actually. There you go:

Current Generation More Enjoyable
Rafael Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport. "Personally, to watch a Pete Sampras versus Goran Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable," the 10-time major champion told The Evening Standard. "It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. It was less eye-catching than what we do now. Everyone enjoys the tennis we play much more. I am not saying we are playing better tennis, just more enjoyable tennis. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...-Day-Five.aspx

Thanks, man.

Looks like Nadal is quite short sighted about tennis.

[mistik]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

Thanks, man.

Looks like Nadal is quite short sighted about tennis.

Wasnt 90s mostly about serve and Wimbledon losing ratings every passing year ? Or am ı remember wrong ?

[SQA333]

Can't wait for the day Nadal retires. Then we can finally enjoy the clay tournaments.

[NDFM]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

I concurr!! He's entertained people thoroughly for the last 3 month hasn't he?? His moonballing, excessive grunting and butt picking is way more enjoyable to watch than displaying s&v genius!!

Why so much criticism of his game? The butt-picking has nothing to do with his game so that is kinda irrelevant. He was just stating his opinion, I agree to a certain extent I wouldn't want to watch a match were it was just serve after serve after serve. I think thats why I appreciate federer's game so much its such a mix of the 90s generation (net play, aces at the right time, S&V sometimes) and today's generation with the longer rallies, angles etc.

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

I concurr!! He's entertained people thoroughly for the last 3 month hasn't he?? His moonballing, excessive grunting and butt picking is way more enjoyable to watch than displaying s&v genius!!

That is a very negative way of looking at Nadal. He is a great tennis player and a tennis legend. Nadal does have matches were he plays dull and uninspired tennis, but so did Sampras. You make it seem like Sampras was a breath of fresh air every time he took the court. Serve and volley was not always "genius". It was sometimes pure crap.

I think it is kind of disappointing that Nadal believes, without any doubt, that the tennis he and his peers play is of higher quality (entertainment-wise) than the tennis players in the past played. Of course, Nadal is entitled to his own opinion.

Pete has nothing but high regards for Nadal's tennis. He even calls Nadal the "beast".

[NDFM]

Originally Posted by SQA333

Can't wait for the day Nadal retires. Then we can finally enjoy the clay tournaments.

There are some clay tournaments nadal doesn't play in, you can watch those ones. And if I may ask why will that make clay tournaments better?

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by mistik

Wasnt 90s mostly about serve and Wimbledon losing ratings every passing year ? Or am ı remember wrong ?

I have only seen the numbers from the US (TV ratings). Yes, Wimbledon was losing ratings throughout the 90's, but even the 90's Wimbledon finals got higher ratings than the 2008 Wimbledon epic did.

[mistik]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

I have only seen the numbers from the US (TV ratings). Yes, Wimbledon was losing ratings throughout the 90's, but even the 90's Wimbledon finals got higher ratings than the 2008 Wimbledon epic did.

All ı know that as result of boring tennis 90s tennis lost popularity and never seem to recover from that even today.Plus Sampras is American for sure he has more spectators in USA then Nadal and Fed.

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Originally Posted by NDFM

There are some clay tournaments nadal doesn't play in, you can watch those ones. And if I may ask why will that make clay tournaments better?

Easy, they won't be constantly reminded of Federer's failures against Nadal on clay (0-5 at Roland Garros).

[CMM]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

Weren't those comments taken out of context or were the product of poor spanish to english translation?I believe Nadal said that he did not find that Sampras vs Ivanisevic match at Wimbledon to be entertaining. I don't think he said that it was not really tennis.

Yes, they were. I think the journalists asked him why they slowed down the grass and he tried to give them a good reason. People wanted to see more tennis, not just 1-2 shots.

[NDFM]

Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0

Easy, they won't be constantly reminded of Federer's failures against Nadal on clay (0-5 at Roland Garros).

I understand what you are saying but by bringing up statistics like that all the time only makes them hate nadal and his fans more you need to stop doing this

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by NDFM

I understand what you are saying but by bringing up statistics like that all the time only makes them hate nadal and his fans more you need to stop doing this

Just ignore him he just loves to rifle up people

[namelessone]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

That is a very negative way of looking at Nadal. He is a great tennis player and a tennis legend. Nadal does have matches were he plays dull and uninspired tennis, but so did Sampras. You make it seem like Sampras was a breath of fresh air every time he took the court. Serve and volley was not always "genius". It was sometimes pure crap.

I think it is kind of disappointing that Nadal believes, without any doubt, that the tennis he and his peers play is of higher quality (entertainment-wise) than the tennis players in the past played. Of course, Nadal is entitled to his own opinion.

Pete has nothing but high regards for Nadal's tennis. He even calls Nadal the "beast".

Dude, it's just his opinion, you can't force someone to be entertained by a particular brand of tennis. I'm sure that there are people that don't even watch clay events in spring because the points are too long, even in non-Nadal matches.

Sampras may have called Nadal a beast but did anyone ask him if he enjoys clay tennis or tennis where the rallies are prolonged(a.k.a the exact opposite of the tennis that Sampras played)? If he is being honest, somehow I doubt that he does, especially considering his record at the French.

[kalyan4fedever]

Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0

Easy, they won't be constantly reminded of Federer's failures against Nadal on clay (0-5 at Roland Garros).

0-5 hmm Fed needs to step up and increase his chances to defeat rafa at RG, makes me wonder how fed who has everything in his game has this lopsided stat.

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Originally Posted by NDFM

I understand what you are saying but by bringing up statistics like that all the time only makes them hate nadal and his fans more you need to stop doing this

Just stating facts. Facts are what is important. Can't hate Nadal for what he has achieved.

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0

Just stating facts. Facts are what is important. Can't hate Nadal for what he has achieved.

Staying facts are fine but most of what you state is not required for example nadal is improved his mental against nole when beat him in RG (where he also achieved blah blah blah) the stuff in the parenthesis is what annoys people cause its stating the obvious we all know that so just state your point!

[NDFM]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

Staying facts are fine but most of what you state is not required for example nadal is improved his mental against nole when beat him in RG (where he also achieved blah blah blah) the stuff in the parenthesis is what annoys people cause its stating the obvious we all know that so just state your point!

This. That's what I was trying to say, he/she probably will not listen but I can see how a fan of another player can get so annoyed at this. I'm pretty sure he/she was banned like twice, it was probably because of the constant provisions of nadal's statistics