...vvvVVV ** VCORE Tour 89 Club ** VVVvvv... - Page 2

XFactorer · 10-05-2012, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg G

Had a good hit today, evaluating the 3 string setups.

The Lux Alu Power 16L (52/50) seems to have settled in and has more pop than the first time I hit it. Still nothing like the Tour Bite 17 in both spin and power for me. And my elbow felt the stiffness. I think I may like it at 10 lbs lower, or in a hybrid.

The Yonex Polytour Spin (48/46) made a really good impression! Nice pop, good spin! Easy on the elbow.

The polytour spin/Og sheep micro (50/50) was my first hybrid. It was the easiest on my elbow, had excellent power and good spin. Was very close to the full bed polytour spin. There was some string movement though- is that normal for a hybrid?

It's pretty hard looking for the right string. All the switching around messes up your game. I'm going with that excuse for playing horribly today. Sprayed balls everywhere. Ugh.

I used PolyTour Spin at 50, full bed, one piece stringing. OMG, it was too much pop for me. But in a Yonex EZONE Xi 98, the string (two pieces) at 45 is peeerrrrfect. To each his own!

TonyB · 10-05-2012, 02:37 PM

Maybe I'll try Polytour one of these days. But I have a bunch of PS Energy to make my way through first!
I strung up my racquet yesterday with PS Energy, but found that I didn't have enough for the crosses, so I decided to hybrid it with Prince Syn gut with Duraflex. Even after just bouncing a ball off the stringbed a few times, I could immediately tell that it wasn't even HALF as good as a full bed of PS Energy. It was much more crisp, had about the same power, but the control wasn't anywhere near good enough. Also, the feel and touch was completely gone. So I cut them out today and restrung with a full set (got my reel in the mail today) of PS Energy. What a night and day difference! The feel is back, the control and comfort is much, much better.

So I just wanted to convey my experience with a hybrid in this frame. For those of you who have only tried PS Energy in a hybrid, you're really missing the boat. A full bed is the only way to go.

Greg G · 10-05-2012, 09:24 PM

XFactorer, you jinxed it LOL! Today I was spraying balls with the Polytour spin, both full bed and hybrid, and went with the Alu Power. Wonder if it was the idea planted in my mind?

TonyB · 10-07-2012, 05:46 PM

Played another great match today with the Tour 89. This is probably the best serving frame I've ever used and the stability is off the charts, despite the relatively light weight (I've always played with 350+ gram frames). My opponent was crushing serves and I never felt like the racquet was the weak link.

I'm glad I finally got back to Yonex after several years of using Wilson/Donnay/Vantage frames. I had always used the R-22 and RQ-120 when I was younger and enjoyed the large sweet spot, awesome slices, and stable feel of the Yonex frames. The Tour 89 is no different, but it's definitely a departure from the previous few lines (RDX, RDS, etc.) that weren't quite cut from the same cloth as the frames from the 80s. The Tour 89 has that classic feel with the modern stability, power, and feel.

I'm finally happy again with my racquet. It's been a while.

TonyB · 10-13-2012, 10:15 AM

Not much love for this gem of a frame I guess.

I'm actually a bit surprised. Maybe the "89" on the frame is scaring people away. They should have called it the "98" and people would have swarmed to it. You can't even tell that the head size is smaller, to be honest. It plays beautifully and the sweet spot is much larger than most 95+ sq. in. frames I've used.

marco forehand · 10-13-2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyB

Not much love for this gem of a frame I guess.

I'm actually a bit surprised. Maybe the "89" on the frame is scaring people away.

I have been going back and forth between Volkl's PB 10mp (325) and the VCore 89 for the past month.
I have a history of falling in love with mid sized racquets but eventually playing matches with a mid plus.
The VCore may be different. It adds directional control, spin and feel, giving up some power. Right now I am moving around the court well and so I can get in position to create my own power.I'm also able to create more angles with this stick.
But at my age there are no guarantees how long I'll maintain that fitness level for.
Going to enjoy the ride while it last.

Greg G · 10-13-2012, 09:20 PM

Well after 2 weeks, I'm cutting out the Alu Power. It's just not working for me. Gonna try my luck with Black Widow and Rip Control.

Do you guys find this frame particularly sensitive to strings? I'm surprised how big the change is between tour bite and Alu power. Then again, I'm new to the world of polys.

Roforot · 10-14-2012, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyB

Not much love for this gem of a frame I guess.

I'm actually a bit surprised. Maybe the "89" on the frame is scaring people away. They should have called it the "98" and people would have swarmed to it. You can't even tell that the head size is smaller, to be honest. It plays beautifully and the sweet spot is much larger than most 95+ sq. in. frames I've used.

Well there were two long posts which were exceptionally high in their praise as the new frames came out. Now people are moving to their next new thing. I've seen some vcores 89 on sale (from people who were raving about them). Others seemed to have settled back to the vcore95d or easier frame.

I've been a long time yon ex guy but I'm thinking of trying a new direction... But I will test out this frame and the ezone xi 98.

c_hari_c · 10-14-2012, 06:50 PM

After demoing this racket from TW over the weekend, I am sold on this. I have a prestige mid and plays similar to that. I will wait for a year or two when the price goes down and get a couple.

Greg G · 10-14-2012, 08:07 PM

Ok Dunlop Black Widow 17 has restored the feel I had with Tour Bite. If ever, it's just slightly underpowered compared to TB, but easier on the arm. Spin generation was really nice, and I was serving better than I have in the past few weeks. I need to do a straight up comparison vs TB, but I'm pretty satisfied.

RIP Control 17 wasn't bad, but had even less power than Black Widow, and was even more comfy for the arm. I just found myself exerting more effort on it. It might be better in a hybrid, for me at least.

EC230 · 10-16-2012, 08:29 AM

I've been using the 89 the past 2-3 months now and it's definitely a solid stick. Coming from the POG Mid (which I've used solely for the past 10+ years) the 89 is definitely a change in the positive direction. For me it does everything well, better stability without the raw feel of the POG.

Currently I've been stringing the 89 with Solinco Outlast 16L at 52lbs (same string as in my POG but now strung lower with the Yonex) and it works well for me.

chizzle · 10-16-2012, 09:42 AM

So how does this compare vs the PS90s, in terms of overall demand? I love the 90, but the demand leaves me falling short vs. many players.

Interestingly, in Atlanta, it's hard to get a demo of the 89; but the 97 is available.

Thanks for the replies.

DonBot · 10-16-2012, 09:59 AM

Being a long time wilson 90 user I think the yonex is alot easier to play with than the black red BLX version. I think I hit a better serve with the k90, but the string bed is just so forgiving, you rarely shank and miss hit. I have played about 12 hours or so with mine and really enjoy it. Overall it has a little more power on tap than the wilsons, but has the same degree if not better directional control. Volleying is about the same maybe a slight nod the k90 but note the blx and the ncode, they were sort of meh in my book. I would definitely give it a demo.

TonyB · 10-16-2012, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chizzle

So how does this compare vs the PS90s, in terms of overall demand? I love the 90, but the demand leaves me falling short vs. many players.

Interestingly, in Atlanta, it's hard to get a demo of the 89; but the 97 is available.

Thanks for the replies.

I used to play with the K90 and I loved it. The only issue was that it hurt my wrist after a year or so. I was devastated. I switched to a flexible frame (Donnay) but my game suffered). Finally, Yonex came out with a *REAL* frame that had some potential, even if it was a bit lighter than I would have preferred.

The Yonex Tour 89 is easier to maneuver (lighter weight but same swingweight as the K90), has a larger sweetspot, and swings a little easier overall. Power level for the 89 is lower than the K90, but directional control is better. Serves are MUCH better with the Yonex. Returns are about the same.

I trust my slice backhand more with the Yonex, but both frames are good. For some reason I can hit forehands MUCH better with the K90, but that may be able to be fixed by some practice and playing time with the Yonex, I don't know yet.

Anyway, I'd say overall the Yonex is superior to the K90 in my hands, as the serves, serve returns, slice, control, and especially volleys with the Yonex are better. I'm not saying it's better for everyone, but it's certainly worth a try if you are a fan of the Wilson 90-sized frames.

ASH1485 · 10-19-2012, 05:35 AM

any one handed backhand players using this frame ?

i'm considering the switch but the only thing iam worried about is my 1 HBH , as iam used to lower swing weight

thanks

tapatio · 10-19-2012, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASH1485

any one handed backhand players using this frame ?

i'm considering the switch but the only thing iam worried about is my 1 HBH , as iam used to lower swing weight

thanks

I have a 1hbh, I wouldn't worry about it as the racquet is still very manouverable because of its balance.

TonyB · 10-19-2012, 06:50 PM

I use a 1HBH. I think I could rip the ball a bit harder with the K90, but the Yonex 89 is no slouch. I didn't have to make any real adjustments to my backhand with the Yonex. Very stable and solid. Returns are crisp and accurate.

Matt21 · 10-20-2012, 10:21 AM

Guys, as much as it pains me (both literally and figuratively), I'm "this" close to giving up my IG Prestige Mids. They're the best hitting, most playable Prestige Mids I've ever used, but I've never had TE til switching from my MGP Mids to these. So at any rate, frames I'm eyeing are:
BLX Pro Staff Tour 90
Biomimetic 100
(and keeping fingers crossed for a re-release of the PC600)...

The positive reviews on the VC89 have me warming to the idea of trying Yonex again. If any of you guys have used the Prestiges or the Dunlop 100's, how does the VC89 compare?

Tx

sepidoel · 10-20-2012, 10:34 AM

I'm a Bio100 user only, so no comment. Sorry.

How's the grip VCT89 grip for 1HBH? Is it close enough to leather feel? Judging by its weight and balance I don't think adding more weight to its handle is a good idea.

Matt21 · 10-20-2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepidoel

I'm a Bio100 user only, so no comment. Sorry.

How's the grip VCT89 grip for 1HBH? Is it close enough to leather feel? Judging by its weight and balance I don't think adding more weight to its handle is a good idea.

Have you used any of the other Yonexes (past or present)? Any other mids? How do they compare to your current Bio100 and what is your setup (stock or modded)?

10-05-2012, 02:37 PM	#22
TonyB Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,731	Maybe I'll try Polytour one of these days. But I have a bunch of PS Energy to make my way through first! I strung up my racquet yesterday with PS Energy, but found that I didn't have enough for the crosses, so I decided to hybrid it with Prince Syn gut with Duraflex. Even after just bouncing a ball off the stringbed a few times, I could immediately tell that it wasn't even HALF as good as a full bed of PS Energy. It was much more crisp, had about the same power, but the control wasn't anywhere near good enough. Also, the feel and touch was completely gone. So I cut them out today and restrung with a full set (got my reel in the mail today) of PS Energy. What a night and day difference! The feel is back, the control and comfort is much, much better. So I just wanted to convey my experience with a hybrid in this frame. For those of you who have only tried PS Energy in a hybrid, you're really missing the boat. A full bed is the only way to go. __________________ Lois: "Peter, I'm not wearing any panties." Peter: "That's ok, honey. We can throw that chair out."

10-07-2012, 05:46 PM	#24
TonyB Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,731	Played another great match today with the Tour 89. This is probably the best serving frame I've ever used and the stability is off the charts, despite the relatively light weight (I've always played with 350+ gram frames). My opponent was crushing serves and I never felt like the racquet was the weak link. I'm glad I finally got back to Yonex after several years of using Wilson/Donnay/Vantage frames. I had always used the R-22 and RQ-120 when I was younger and enjoyed the large sweet spot, awesome slices, and stable feel of the Yonex frames. The Tour 89 is no different, but it's definitely a departure from the previous few lines (RDX, RDS, etc.) that weren't quite cut from the same cloth as the frames from the 80s. The Tour 89 has that classic feel with the modern stability, power, and feel. I'm finally happy again with my racquet. It's been a while. __________________ Lois: "Peter, I'm not wearing any panties." Peter: "That's ok, honey. We can throw that chair out."

10-13-2012, 10:15 AM	#25
TonyB Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,731	Not much love for this gem of a frame I guess. I'm actually a bit surprised. Maybe the "89" on the frame is scaring people away. They should have called it the "98" and people would have swarmed to it. You can't even tell that the head size is smaller, to be honest. It plays beautifully and the sweet spot is much larger than most 95+ sq. in. frames I've used. __________________ Lois: "Peter, I'm not wearing any panties." Peter: "That's ok, honey. We can throw that chair out."

10-14-2012, 06:50 PM	#29
c_hari_c Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 269	After demoing this racket from TW over the weekend, I am sold on this. I have a prestige mid and plays similar to that. I will wait for a year or two when the price goes down and get a couple. __________________ Yonex Vcore Tour 89

10-16-2012, 09:42 AM	#32
chizzle Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 180	So how does this compare vs the PS90s, in terms of overall demand? I love the 90, but the demand leaves me falling short vs. many players. Interestingly, in Atlanta, it's hard to get a demo of the 89; but the 97 is available. Thanks for the replies. __________________ "You need to stop buying racquets" - my wife.