Looking for lower trajectory...

[Djoker91]

Originally Posted by 5263

during that time he could hardly hit across the ball more than there
I don't see the push aspect at all although a good coach I know does
refer to it as a push in some respect. I don't see it though.

Yea the biggest thing I'm looking for is a type of mentality. A "think of doing this while you hit" if you will. Because what I'm doing now is shoveling the ball using a djokovic looking motion. The head droops below the handle and everything. I need to have some type of motion that allows me to hit thru the court. I need more out and not up. I still want insurence topspin, but how do I get that middle ground?! It's driving me insane lol

[5263]

Originally Posted by Djoker91

Yea the biggest thing I'm looking for is a type of mentality. A "think of doing this while you hit" if you will. Because what I'm doing now is shoveling the ball using a djokovic looking motion. The head droops below the handle and everything. I need to have some type of motion that allows me to hit thru the court. I need more out and not up. I still want insurence topspin, but how do I get that middle ground?! It's driving me insane lol

I think there are likely 2 main aspects here.

1 is not to get as much below the ball as you normally do (and thet may accout
for what you see as pushing)

2 is to realize that as you go forward thru the ball, it will be on an arc working
across in front of you, not trying to push straight out towards the target as it
sounds your big hitter friend is suggesting. Yes you get more power his way, but
control is not good enough to develop great confidence in the shot that way.

[sundaypunch]

Originally Posted by UCSF2012

Hitting flat is the way to get good fast. Topspin is high error. You're swinging away at all your shots, so you miss your targets more often, and you mishit more often. Take controlled swing at 60-70% and hit flat. Hit it 2 ft over the net, but don't hit it so hard it goes out. It's about restraint. Don't believe me? Sampras hit flat, and so does Del Potro.

Unless you hit incredible angles, good players will crush those 70% flat balls. You might as well be feeding it to them with a ball machine. There is a reason that the game has evolved from flat groundstrokes to heavy topspin. And it isn't because it is high error.

That being said, for many people hitting flatter is probably a good idea. It is more efficient so older players or those with lower RHS may not be able to keep a heavy topspin ball deep over the course of 2-3 sets.

[Djoker91]

Originally Posted by sundaypunch

Unless you hit incredible angles, good players will crush those 70% flat balls. You might as well be feeding it to them with a ball machine. There is a reason that the game has evolved from flat groundstrokes to heavy topspin. And it isn't because it is high error.

That being said, for many people hitting flatter is probably a good idea. It is more efficient so older players or those with lower RHS may not be able to keep a heavy topspin ball deep over the course of 2-3 sets.

Yea I've experienced this. I used to have a good deep topspin forehand. But over the course of a match it will definitely disappear. I miss by a few inches a few times in a row. That why I want an agassi style lower trajectory, flatter ball that lands a lil shallower in the court. Like agassi I want to be able to rally consistently, then when I want the winner push it a little harder. I've heard this "push" method on the forehand, and I think I want to go for that feel. It's either that or changing my grip to more western