Who is more likely to reach 8...Nadal or Federer?

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by OverratedIvanovic

It was never sunny and dry to begin with. It was raining from Set 1. They even halted the play in 2nd set for some mins due to rain. Are you telling me the court became soaked all of a sudden in 3rd set after Nadal led 2-0? The truth however is Djokovic started unloading on his shots in Set 3. I mean comeon, he got 8 straight games off Nadal on his freaking best surface clay. No one has managed to do that. Watch the highlights again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaUJTCtV-SM Even it was as dry and sunny, it wouldn't have been a straight set affair. Both the guys are way too competitive to lose in a straight setter in a final.

And how amusing you defend Rafa in one post and bash him in the very next post saying he won't win another slam



I don't deny your points about Rafa's form in 2011

I know it wasn't sunny or dry to begin with,but as the match went on the court got wetter and wetter until it turned into a mud pit. No rain=straight set win for Nadal. No rain+sun=definite straight set win for Nadal.


And I am not bashing Nadal;I am just saying that he is done,and won't win anymore slams. It's not bashing to say that,especially when all the signs point to his career being over.

[BauerAlmeida]

Originally Posted by OverratedIvanovic

It was never sunny and dry to begin with. It was raining from Set 1. They even halted the play in 2nd set for some mins due to rain. Are you telling me the court became soaked all of a sudden in 3rd set after Nadal led 2-0? The truth however is Djokovic started unloading on his shots in Set 3. I mean comeon, he got 8 straight games off Nadal on his freaking best surface clay. No one has managed to do that. Watch the highlights again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaUJTCtV-SM Even it was as dry and sunny, it wouldn't have been a straight set affair. Both the guys are way too competitive to lose in a straight setter in a final.

Totally. And when they came back from the break Nadal won easily the second set and broke Djokovic again to start the 3rd. THEN Djokovic started to demolish Nadal. If it was because of the rain it would have been just right when they came back to play. The conditions changed there, not 5 games after they continued playing.

[OverratedIvanovic]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I know it wasn't sunny or dry to begin with,but as the match went on the court got wetter and wetter until it turned into a mud pit. No rain=straight set win for Nadal. No rain+sun=definite straight set win for Nadal.


And I am not bashing Nadal;I am just saying that he is done,and won't win anymore slams. It's not bashing to say that,especially when all the signs point to his career being over.

Yea the good ol Clarky's reverse jinx psychology which we have been witnessing since past 1 year Didn't you say that "Cvac/Rolaids/insert another crappy name" would demolish Rafa in straights at RG 2012

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Rolaids. In either straights or 4 sets at the most. No way he loses.

Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida

Totally. And when they came back from the break Nadal won easily the second set and broke Djokovic again to start the 3rd. THEN Djokovic started to demolish Nadal. If it was because of the rain it would have been just right when they came back to play. The conditions changed there, not 5 games after they continued playing.

^^ Couldn't have said it any better

[Talker]

I'll go with Fed.
At this stage in their careers it'll come down to mental focus and determination.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by OverratedIvanovic

Yea the good ol Clarky's reverse jinx psychology which we have been witnessing since past 1 year Didn't you say that "Cvac/Rolaids/insert another crappy name" would demolish Rafa in straights at RG 2012







^^ Couldn't have said it any better

Sure,I had zero reason to believe Cvac would lose that match based on the past year+ between them in finals. No reason to believe Nadal would lose yet another slam final to Cvac. None at all. I must have been out of my mind along with lots of other folks as well to think Nadal would lose.




BS. The court got progessively wetter from the rain,and the balls turned into heavy,soaked sponges. Keep right on denying it,but the courts being wet is the only reason your hero took that third set.


Oh,and back at you since you seem to love that smiley so much.

[RAFA2005RG]

Considering its been revealed that Rafa played the entire clay season in heavy pain (which began at Indian Wells and escalated in Miami), and considering Rafa's team has said they will be skipping some hardcourt events from now on, looks like Rafa will be in better condition at next year's Roland Garros than he was at this year's Roland Garros. Yet he only dropped one set at this year's Roland Garros. I think the question is whether or not Rafa will win 11+ Roland Garros titles. The next couple of years are a formality.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Considering its been revealed that Rafa played the entire clay season in heavy pain (which began at Indian Wells and escalated in Miami), and considering Rafa's team has said they will be skipping some hardcourt events from now on, looks like Rafa will be in better condition at next year's Roland Garros than he was at this year's Roland Garros. Yet he only dropped one set at this year's Roland Garros. I think the question is whether or not Rafa will win 11+ Roland Garros titles. The next couple of years are a formality.

10notachances

[Smasher08]

Nadal is the ultimate surface specialist, but his knees are the biggest unknown in our sport.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by Smasher08

Nadal is the ultimate surface specialist, but his knees are the biggest unknown in our sport.

That's why he's skipping some hardcourt events from now on, enabling him to be in far better condition in future RGs compared to what he was in this year. So instead of dropping a set, he won't drop anything.

[OverratedIvanovic]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Sure,I had zero reason to believe Cvac would lose that match based on the past year+ between them in finals. No reason to believe Nadal would lose yet another slam final to Cvac. None at all. I must have been out of my mind along with lots of other folks as well to think Nadal would lose.

What are you talking about? Other folks? Majority of the people voted Rafa as the heavy favourite going into this match in either 3 or 4 sets (although I thought it would be a 5 setter). He was arguably playing his best clay court tennis (except 2008 ) crushing everyone enroute finals whereas "Rolaids" headed into this match playing very mediocre tennis struggling against guys like Seppi and Tsonga. As you said you really must have been out of your mind thinking Cvac would straight set Rafa.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

BS. The court got progessively wetter from the rain,and the balls turned into heavy,soaked sponges. Keep right on denying it,but the courts being wet is the only reason your hero took that third set.

I am not denying the fact that court was getting wetter, only denying the fact that Djokovic would have been straight setted. I think we can agree to disagree here

Hero? I am a Rafa fan for life. I probably dislike Djokovic as much as you do or even more but unlike you I don't fail to admit that when Djokovic 2.0 turns up, there is not much Rafa can do. Lucky for him, he only turned up in 3rd set.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Oh,and back at you since you seem to love that smiley so much.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by OverratedIvanovic

What are you talking about? Other folks? Majority of the people voted Rafa as the heavy favourite going into this match in either 3 or 4 sets (although I thought it would be a 5 setter). He was arguably playing his best clay court tennis (except 2008 ) crushing everyone enroute finals whereas "Rolaids" headed into this match playing very mediocre tennis struggling against guys like Seppi and Tsonga. As you said you really must have been out of your mind thinking Cvac would straight set Rafa.



I am not denying the fact that court was getting wetter, only denying the fact that Djokovic would have been straight setted. I think we can agree to disagree here

Hero? I am a Rafa fan for life. I probably dislike Djokovic as much as you do or even more but unlike you I don't fail to admit that when Djokovic 2.0 turns up, there is not much Rafa can do. Lucky for him, he only turned up in 3rd set.

No way. I'm not only talking about the people here;I am also talking about multiple tennis sites I read that picked Cvac to win.



So what? Again,Cvac's form going into matches with Nadal means nothing. He also struggled more at the AO this year,Wimby last year,and the USO last year as well,but whan happened in those finals? Nadal lost,even if he played better tennis up until the final.



No you're not. You're a bonifide Cvactard if I ever saw one.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Considering its been revealed that Rafa played the entire clay season in heavy pain (which began at Indian Wells and escalated in Miami), and considering Rafa's team has said they will be skipping some hardcourt events from now on, looks like Rafa will be in better condition at next year's Roland Garros than he was at this year's Roland Garros. Yet he only dropped one set at this year's Roland Garros. I think the question is whether or not Rafa will win 11+ Roland Garros titles. The next couple of years are a formality.

Another words Nadal will be playing part-time tennis. That's ridiculous if they let him get away with it. A lot of hard court MS are mandatory events, he cannot skip it because every top seeded are required to play.

[OverratedIvanovic]

Man you are quick in replying

Originally Posted by Clarky21

No way. I'm not only talking about the people here;I am also talking about multiple tennis sites I read that picked Cvac to win.

How about you show me some of those mutiple tennis sites which you are talking about? General consensus of the tennis community was Nadal emerging victorious.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

So what? Again,Cvac's form going into matches with Nadal means nothing. He also struggled more at the AO this year,Wimby last year,and the USO last year as well,but whan happened in those finals? Nadal lost,even if he played better tennis up until the final.

Nadal was the heavy favourite heading in RG final unlike others whereas Djokovic was more or less favourite if not heavy favourite at USO and AO on the basis of form.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

No you're not. You're a bonifide Cvactard if I ever saw one.

Whatever makes you feel better. You are free to think whatever you want I guess

I would have loved to continue our back and forth but unfortunately unlike you I don't spend my entire day here so cya later dude

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by TMF

Another words Nadal will be playing part-time tennis. That's ridiculous if they let him get away with it. A lot of hard court MS are mandatory events, he cannot skip it because every top seeded are required to play.

Nah, Rafa will be skipping either Indian Wells, Miami or both. In addition, Rafa has said he wants to add more claycourt events to his schedule. Nothing "part-time" about that.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Nah, Rafa will be skipping either Indian Wells, Miami or both. In addition, Rafa has said he wants to add more claycourt events to his schedule. Nothing "part-time" about that.

He's playing too many clay tournaments that's are out there already. What's there to add? ATP250 is not worth it, that's for the low ranked players.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by TMF

He's playing too many clay tournaments that's are out there already. What's there to add? ATP250 is not worth it, that's for the low ranked players.

Nah, he's not playing too many claycourt events. There is on such thing as to too many claycourt events UNLESS you are already injured from playing on hardcourts. If he's not injured at Indian Wells/Miami then he's fine to play as many claycourt events as he wants. And I think he was referring to South American claycourt events (Ferrer plays a couple of them).

[abmk]

nadal winning RG is definitely more likely, but federer winning 8 wimbledons would definitely be more impressive ...

[smoledman]

Most likely Nadal's title-winning days are done.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by abmk

nadal winning RG is definitely more likely, but federer winning 8 wimbledons would definitely be more impressive ...

Nadal has won 7 Roland Garros titles from 8 attempts. If Nadal was to win his 8th Roland Garros from 9 attempts, it will be more impressive than anything in the history of tennis. How many Wimbledon's has Federer needed to get 7? Kind of a joke when you look at how many Wimbledon attempts he's had.

[Smasher08]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

That's why he's skipping some hardcourt events from now on, enabling him to be in far better condition in future RGs compared to what he was in this year. So instead of dropping a set, he won't drop anything.

Oh really? Reducing one's match fitness will somehow lead your beloved on to a superlative winning streak?

It's truly amazing how many accounts you have here.