What Are Your Thoughts on Prokennex?

[smirker]

Originally Posted by danix

It's kind of ironic that I am back to PK actually. My first "real" racquet was a Copper Ace, and I used the Ceramic Destiny throughout most of college.

Similar to me then Danix, used the old PK Copper Ace back in the day. Have hit with it recently and it's incredibly low powered. Don't know how I got the ball over the net as a 14 year old!

Ki5 coming on Monday, what's your experience of it?

[kenyee]

Originally Posted by dzg

Why is it that all ProKennex racquets are for advanced players (NTRP 4+) only??

Ignore it. Try it and if you like it, use it.
I'm a 3-3.5 depending on the day. The PK5G and Redondo MP work fine for me.

I think the lower level players don't take smooth swings is the issue...that technique works fine for overpowered tweener/beginner racquets, but doesn't work against players at the 4+ level...

[danix]

Originally Posted by smirker

Similar to me then Danix, used the old PK Copper Ace back in the day. Have hit with it recently and it's incredibly low powered. Don't know how I got the ball over the net as a 14 year old!

Ki5 coming on Monday, what's your experience of it?

I dislike the Ki5, but I've acclimated to it. It's the only thing I can play without pain right now. The Q Tour feels a lot better to me, but the weight bothers my arm. The Q5 is a slightly stiffer Ki5 and I will likely move to that.

[aimr75]

Tried the older us version of the BA98. Really great frame.

[Mister drool]

does anyonw knows if the grommets for the black ace 93 will fit the redondo mid and vice versa?

my older redondo mid realy needs a new set and im not sure if the racquet mold is the same, so ... if anyone has tried it please let me know

[anirut]

Originally Posted by Mister drool

does anyonw knows if the grommets for the black ace 93 will fit the redondo mid and vice versa?

my older redondo mid realy needs a new set and im not sure if the racquet mold is the same, so ... if anyone has tried it please let me know

Yes, they will fit. The BA93 and Redondo Mid are from the same mold.

[Steve Huff]

Great rackets, Poor Marketing strategy.

[smirker]

Originally Posted by Steve Huff

Great rackets, Poor Marketing strategy.

Too true Steve. For a country of 65 million people it appears we have one online retailer of PK racquets. Thanks god for TW Europe, hopefully they have saved my PD induced throbbing elbow by sending me a lovely Ki5.

[kenyee]

Originally Posted by smirker

saved my PD induced throbbing elbow by sending me a lovely Ki5.

If the Ki5 still bothers you, put on gut for string at lower than mid tension. And try a PK5G if the Ki5 is too stiff (I found the Ki5 to bother my wrist tendonitis more than the PK5G)...

[GrandSlam45]

I've been playing for a few weeks with the Ki5 and KLIP hybrid 16 strings - half gut, half multi - strung at 53lbs.

Is there such a thing as "too" comfortable!? With this set up, it almost feels like playing badmitton

REALLY good on the arm though and great control.

[Dgdavid]

Originally Posted by GrandSlam45

I've been playing for a few weeks with the Ki5 and KLIP hybrid 16 strings - half gut, half multi - strung at 53lbs.

Is there such a thing as "too" comfortable!? With this set up, it almost feels like playing badmitton

REALLY good on the arm though and great control.

Very interesting Grandslam. Is the gut in the mains or crosses? Both at 53lbs?

[Steve Huff]

I've put gut mains, Wilson Shock Shield at 60# in this last time I strung my ki5. More power than I expected. Next time I'll go up to 62. Plays very good though, and very easy on the arm. I've tried gut/poly at 58/53 and the gut/SS at 60 is a lot easier on the arm.

[whylow]

i have recently started playing with the PK redondo type C mid which i think is really great. i thought i would buy a BA93 as well, but very confusing understanding all these different models and after hours on the net - ive come to the following:
BA93 - US MODEL - not perfect / bit too high SW for me so i thought not to go for it......
BA 93 2012 -US MODEL - better specs for my liking - but at present, no reviews or customer comments - so maybe not such a good idea, because people talk about the BA98 2012 being not as good as the earlier version...? (if contruction / material / technology gives any indication about the feel and playability of the racket)
BA 93- 315g -EURO (a 2012 model according to TWE) - very similar to the BA93 2012 US MOD in specs (no flex value) but not the same racket - but maybe good because 100% graphite and nicer paintjob?

so the question is should i go for the EURO 315g version or the US 2012 version. has anyone tested these rackets and able to compare them with REDONDO or BA93 (not 2012). all info is welcomed cause i gotta make my order soon....

[anirut]

IMO, there are too many versions of the BA right now that everything gets so confusing. I think TW SHOULD help clarify all these minor quirks.

My 2 cents ...

[JGads]

Originally Posted by whylow

i have recently started playing with the PK redondo type C mid which i think is really great. i thought i would buy a BA93 as well, but very confusing understanding all these different models and after hours on the net - ive come to the following:
BA93 - US MODEL - not perfect / bit too high SW for me so i thought not to go for it......
BA 93 2012 -US MODEL - better specs for my liking - but at present, no reviews or customer comments - so maybe not such a good idea, because people talk about the BA98 2012 being not as good as the earlier version...? (if contruction / material / technology gives any indication about the feel and playability of the racket)
BA 93- 315g -EURO (a 2012 model according to TWE) - very similar to the BA93 2012 US MOD in specs (no flex value) but not the same racket - but maybe good because 100% graphite and nicer paintjob?

so the question is should i go for the EURO 315g version or the US 2012 version. has anyone tested these rackets and able to compare them with REDONDO or BA93 (not 2012). all info is welcomed cause i gotta make my order soon....

I have both the old Black Ace Mid and the '2012 US' mid model. Pretty much the exact same racquet, just slightly less swingweight than the old one. Feel is identical. So is the paintjob. I honestly feel like PK must have just had an extra set of Black Ace Mids that came in under spec and they gave them to TW to sell as the '2012' model, because there were only a small handful available, can't find them anywhere else and the paintjob and feel is completely the same... Both amazing sticks. If you're leery of the higher swingweight, jump on the 2012 if you still even can.

[whylow]

Originally Posted by JGads

I have both the old Black Ace Mid and the '2012 US' mid model. Pretty much the exact same racquet, just slightly less swingweight than the old one. Feel is identical. So is the paintjob. I honestly feel like PK must have just had an extra set of Black Ace Mids that came in under spec and they gave them to TW to sell as the '2012' model, because there were only a small handful available, can't find them anywhere else and the paintjob and feel is completely the same... Both amazing sticks. If you're leery of the higher swingweight, jump on the 2012 if you still even can.

excellent info JGads - thank you. just what i was wondering about. it is going to make things much easier for decision making and securing a racket in time. your theory about these mystical BA93 2012 models is also pretty good....

[klementine79]

Anirut, or anyone who's played/plays with the redondo.

How does the grip measure up, wilson-like? Do they run small/big?

Thanks a bunch.

EDIT: I've also heard (believe it was in the comments section) that the specs TW has up for the redondos are UN-strung. Are they really 12.7oz sticks? Hard to believe.

[anirut]

Klementine,

PK grip is sorta like Dunlop, just a tad more rectangular. As for size, umm ... may be (a big may be) a tad smaller than the number says compared to Wilson. This could be due to the shape that may give the "illusion" that it's smaller. Not a deal breaker.

TW's spec is strung, for certain.

[klementine79]

^Good Lookin' out Anirut.

Thanks a mil.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Steve Huff

I've put gut mains, Wilson Shock Shield at 60# in this last time I strung my ki5. More power than I expected. Next time I'll go up to 62. Plays very good though, and very easy on the arm. I've tried gut/poly at 58/53 and the gut/SS at 60 is a lot easier on the arm.

Interesting. I thought Shock Shield was a dead and fairly stiff multi.