Appreciation of Novak Djokivic's Strong Mentality - Page 2

djokovic2008 · 10-14-2012, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tennis_pro

you missed the most obvious one, vs Nadal 2012 AO final

Your right but no match points saved but it's deserves to on the list as the Murray semi listed had no match points saved either.

Mainad · 10-14-2012, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisaddict

No doubts about that. Remember Delpo is not far behind. It is unfortunate that he is injury prone, else he probably would have had a better career by this time.

Delpo is not in the same league. His only big title is the 2009 USO. Murray has also been in 4 other Slam finals and won 8 Masters titles and been in another 3 finals not to mention winning the Olympic gold medal.

Even in 2009, at the height of Del Potro's career, Murray still had the better of him in 3 out of their 4 encounters that year.

djokovic2008 · 10-14-2012, 05:40 AM

Have to agree Murray is the real deal and is giving me nightmares these days he has so many options in his game delpo not on the same planet at the moment.

Towser83 · 10-14-2012, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mainad

Delpo is not in the same league. His only big title is the 2009 USO. Murray has also been in 4 other Slam finals and won 8 Masters titles and been in another 3 finals not to mention winning the Olympic gold medal.

Even in 2009, at the height of Del Potro's career, Murray still had the better of him in 3 out of their 4 encounters that year.

Delpo was just discovering his potential that year and we will never know if without injury he would have gotten better. Murray is about a year and a year and a half older and the matches Murray won in 2009 were all close. plus i get the feeling Murray is a fairly bad matchup. but of course Murray is leagues ahead now.

Clarky21 · 10-14-2012, 05:46 AM

Yeah,especially when your opponent chokes away match points to hand you the match. Luckiest player ever this Cvacula.

power level 800 · 10-14-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisaddict

The thread is deserved for Nole. But please do not compare Murray with the other three yet.

He is a tennis god ? Compared to DY, Bogmolov ?

When he reaches 5+ majors , let us talk compare him with the other 3. For now, he is no better than Kafelnikov.

Kafelnikov has 2 Grand Slam Titles!

RF20Lennon · 10-14-2012, 06:25 AM

Agreed he is more tougher than any of them!! Really a solid rock! those two USO's still hurt.....

RF20Lennon · 10-14-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by power level 800

Kafelnikov has 2 Grand Slam Titles!

All Murray needs is one more and then he can be compared to Kafelnikov

Steve0904 · 10-14-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

Agreed he is more tougher than any of them!! Really a solid rock! those two USO's still hurt.....

I agree that those two USO's hurt, but lets be honest, would you rather he lost to Djokovic or Nadal? He wasn't beating Nadal at either USO IMO, and if Nadal had won those matches he'd have 3 USO titles by now, and we would've never heard the end of it.

kaku · 10-14-2012, 06:54 AM

Novak came back when he was two points away from losing. Anyone else would have probably given up if they couldn't come up with a comeback by that time. Insane mental strength, it all stemmed from early 2011, where he started believing that he could beat the top players. Then he started believing that he could comeback against the top players. Simply amazing

Mainad · 10-14-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kaku

Novak came back when he was two points away from losing. Anyone else would have probably given up if they couldn't come up with a comeback by that time. Insane mental strength, it all stemmed from early 2011, where he started believing that he could beat the top players. Then he started believing that he could comeback against the top players. Simply amazing

Actually, he was just one point away from losing on 5 different occasions!

kaku · 10-14-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mainad

Actually, he was just one point away from losing on 5 different occasions!

Haha true but the match turned at 30-0, which is rarely seen. 20 seconds ago it was looking like a routine service hold for Murray

Numenor · 10-14-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovic2008

I've said it many times the biggest in the clutch ever so far his amazing comebacks are:

Vs fed 2010 us open semi
Vs fed 2011 us open semi
Vs murray 2012 Australian open semi
Vs tsonga 2012 French open quarter final
Vs Murray 2012 shanghai final

Don't forget when he was a break down in the 5th set of the AO final against Nadal. I still can't believe how Novak managed to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

forzamilan90 · 10-14-2012, 08:08 AM

Crazy good mental will power.

In terms of all time greatness, he's surpassing some great players already. Djokovic>Hoad, Courier, and the likes. He's gonna keep moving on up and will be an upper tier legend one of these days.

sepidoel · 10-14-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovic2008

I've said it many times the biggest in the clutch ever so far his amazing comebacks are:

Vs fed 2010 us open semi
Vs fed 2011 us open semi
Vs murray 2012 Australian open semi
Vs tsonga 2012 French open quarter final
Vs Murray 2012 shanghai final

I never thought it would be that many. Damn...

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Originally Posted by tennisaddict

The thread is deserved for Nole. But please do not compare Murray with the other three yet.

He is a tennis god ? Compared to DY, Bogmolov ?

When he reaches 5+ majors , let us talk compare him with the other 3. For now, he is no better than Kafelnikov.

I never said "of all time", just currently. Murray has been on year end top 4 since 2008 (occasionally visiting no. 5) and no lower rank than him has been a threat to his position ever since. I think he deserves high praise for his achievement.

El Nino · 10-14-2012, 08:21 AM

Hate to say it but Murrays Mental game still needs work. First against Raonic and now Djokovic. That's 8 match points if you combine the 2 matches. But kudos to Nole, he showed glimpses of Djokovic 2.0 in the 2011 season

sepidoel · 10-14-2012, 08:30 AM

I see Murray has slightly improved in that section, perhaps by Lendl's help (he's didn't cry, did he?). Long way to catch Djokovic though.

merwy · 10-14-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

He is impressive but he is still no Serena.

True, he is indeed a better tennis player and not a woman.

Mainad · 10-14-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kaku

Haha true but the match turned at 30-0, which is rarely seen. 20 seconds ago it was looking like a routine service hold for Murray

Agreed. Alas, Murray was not clutch enough on serve after getting to 30-0. He just needed to pull out a couple of big ones like he did when serving out for the USO. He just couldn't pull one off when he most needed it. Same with all the match points he held in the tie-break. He had to rely on weakish 2nd serves which Djokovic immediately pounced on. And that's how the fate of a tennis match can turn!

Djokovic stared down the barrel of a gun 5 times and each time dodged the bullet. That's a tribute to his staying power and never-say-die attitude. He won the battle of wills and, unlike at the USO, the stamina battle.

President · 10-14-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

He is impressive but he is still no Serena.

Djokovic's comebacks are far more impressive than any Serena has done and against much more mentally stable competition as well. I think he's definitely mentally tougher than her.

10-14-2012, 05:46 AM	#25
Clarky21 G.O.A.T. Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 10,552	Yeah,especially when your opponent chokes away match points to hand you the match. Luckiest player ever this Cvacula. __________________ "Hopefully the Church of Fed will have mercy on my soul". - Namelessone "We are in the Fed warehouse(known as Nadal haters united)". - Namelessone

10-14-2012, 06:25 AM	#27
RF20Lennon Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,610	Agreed he is more tougher than any of them!! Really a solid rock! those two USO's still hurt..... __________________ Intellectuals solve problems, Geniuses prevent them RAFA2005RG- "If he (Rafa) lost Roland Garros it would be like death."

10-14-2012, 08:08 AM	#34
forzamilan90 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The Black Lodge Posts: 3,992	Crazy good mental will power. In terms of all time greatness, he's surpassing some great players already. Djokovic>Hoad, Courier, and the likes. He's gonna keep moving on up and will be an upper tier legend one of these days. Last edited by forzamilan90 : 10-14-2012 at 08:18 AM.

10-14-2012, 08:21 AM	#36
El Nino Rookie Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Cairo Posts: 103	Hate to say it but Murrays Mental game still needs work. First against Raonic and now Djokovic. That's 8 match points if you combine the 2 matches. But kudos to Nole, he showed glimpses of Djokovic 2.0 in the 2011 season __________________ Biography: 2 x Head Speed 300 With Babolat Pro Hurricane @ 57 pounds

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