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Old 10-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #41
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The kid's tough. Can definitely see him winning at least 1 Slam title in his career.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:41 AM   #42
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:45 AM   #43
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Djokovic's comebacks are far more impressive than any Serena has done and against much more mentally stable competition as well. I think he's definitely mentally tougher than her.
QFT. To overcome 13 match points and end up winning the match is crazy for just a player just at 25. Serena had great comeback but rather than facing match points, she faces Azarenka serving out for the match. That's much less pressure than facing multiple match points.
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:01 AM   #44
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Is there a record for total match points saved in a match?
I believe it's rare, but how rare is it? Can anyone share some insight?
Seppi saved 7 in a row in rome against wawrinka i think...He was 6-0 down in tiebreak final set or something like that
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Credit to Murray's WEAK mentality as well
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:19 AM   #46
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Djokovic's comebacks are far more impressive than any Serena has done and against much more mentally stable competition as well. I think he's definitely mentally tougher than her.
Yes. mens game 4 top players. women's game 1 top player. serena has no rival. he come backs are the equivalent of djokovic coming back against someone like alnagro.
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:27 AM   #47
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in terms of being mentally strong, i think muster 1995 deserves a mention: in 6 of the 12 tournaments he won that year, he saved one or more match points !
i guess it's a record...
  • 1 MP in QF (against J.Sanchez) in Estoril
  • 1 MP in 1R (against Burillo) in Barcelona
  • 2 MP's in F (against Becker) in Monte Carlo
  • 3 MP's in 1R (against Dewulf) in St. Polten
  • 4 MP's in SF (against Bruguera) in Stuttgart
  • 3 MP's in F (against C.Costa) in Umag
from: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...87#post1838587
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:38 AM   #48
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in terms of being mentally strong, i think muster 1995 deserves a mention: in 6 of the 12 tournaments he won that year, he saved one or more match points !
i guess it's a record...
  • 1 MP in QF (against J.Sanchez) in Estoril
  • 1 MP in 1R (against Burillo) in Barcelona
  • 2 MP's in F (against Becker) in Monte Carlo
  • 3 MP's in 1R (against Dewulf) in St. Polten
  • 4 MP's in SF (against Bruguera) in Stuttgart
  • 3 MP's in F (against C.Costa) in Umag
from: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...87#post1838587
Wow. That is extremely impressive, especially considering the likelihood that those MPs weren't quick points given the surface.
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:17 PM   #49
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Nicolas Lapentti was also pretty mentally strong and such a huge fighter.

He won the following 16 matches that he faced match points in:

Coral Springs 1996 R32 vs Wade McGuire - saved 5 match points
Australian Open 1999 R128 vs Thomas Johansson - saved 2 match points
Rome 1999 R16 vs Nicolas Kiefer - saved 2 match points
Lyon 1999 R32 vs Jan Siemerink - saved 1 match point
Lyon 1999 SF vs Magnus Gustafsson - saved 1 match point (he went on to win that Lyon 1999 tournament, having saved match points in 2 different matches)
Stuttgart Indoor 2001 R32 vs Arnaud Clement - saved 5 match points
Paris-Bercy 2001 R64 vs Anthony Dupuis - saved 1 match point
Vina Del Mar 2002 QF vs Flavio Saretta - saved 2 match points
St Polten 2002 R16 vs Irakli Labadze - saved 4 match points (he went on to win that tournament)
Wimbeldon 2002 R128 vs Jamie Delgado - saved 4 match points
Bastad 2003 QF vs Rafael Nadal - saved 5 match points
Davis Cup 2003 vs Victor Hanescu - saved 3 match points
Costa Do Sauipe 2008 QF vs Eduardo Schwank - saved 3 match points
Davis Cup 2008 vs Ramon Delgado - saved 1 match point
Davis Cup 2009 vs Frank Dancevic - saved 2 match points
Monte-Carlo 2009 R32 vs Marat Safin - saved 3 match points
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:42 PM   #50
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Felix Mantilla's list is also hugely impressive:

Monte-Carlo 1996 R16 vs Javier Sanchez - saved 1 match point
San Marino 1997 R32 vs Richard Fromberg - saved 3 match points
Dubai 1998 SF vs Wayne Ferreira - saved 2 match points
Hamburg 1998 R16 vs Alberto Berasategui - saved 9 match points
Santiago 1998 QF vs Jim Courier - saved 1 match point
Monte-Carlo 1999 QF vs Albert Costa - saved 4 match points
Palermo 2001 SF vs Albert Portas - saved 9 match points (he went on to win that tournament)
Rome 2004 R64 vs Robby Ginepri - saved 4 match points

Winning 2 different matches that he faced 9 match points in was incredible.

Adriano Panatta saved 11 match points in his 1st round match against Kim Wawrick at the Italian Open in 1976. He went on to that tournament and capture his big home city title, beating Vilas in the final.

Alberto Martin saved 10 match points before beating Adrian Voinea in their 1st round match at Bucharest in 1999. Rainer Schuttler also did that in his 1st round match against Andreas Seppi at Kitzbuhel in 2004.
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:08 PM   #51
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Felix Mantilla's list is also hugely impressive:

Monte-Carlo 1996 R16 vs Javier Sanchez - saved 1 match point
San Marino 1997 R32 vs Richard Fromberg - saved 3 match points
Dubai 1998 SF vs Wayne Ferreira - saved 2 match points
Hamburg 1998 R16 vs Alberto Berasategui - saved 9 match points
Santiago 1998 QF vs Jim Courier - saved 1 match point
Monte-Carlo 1999 QF vs Albert Costa - saved 4 match points
Palermo 2001 SF vs Albert Portas - saved 9 match points (he went on to win that tournament)
Rome 2004 R64 vs Robby Ginepri - saved 4 match points

Winning 2 different matches that he faced 9 match points in was incredible.

Adriano Panatta saved 11 match points in his 1st round match against Kim Wawrick at the Italian Open in 1976. He went on to that tournament and capture his big home city title, beating Vilas in the final.

Alberto Martin saved 10 match points before beating Adrian Voinea in their 1st round match at Bucharest in 1999. Rainer Schuttler also did that in his 1st round match against Andreas Seppi at Kitzbuhel in 2004.
Panatta saved also 1 match point at FO 1976, against Hutka (first round), and won the tournament.
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:18 PM   #52
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@Gizo : wow, how do you find those stats?
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:23 PM   #53
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Felix Mantilla's list is also hugely impressive:

Monte-Carlo 1996 R16 vs Javier Sanchez - saved 1 match point
San Marino 1997 R32 vs Richard Fromberg - saved 3 match points
Dubai 1998 SF vs Wayne Ferreira - saved 2 match points
Hamburg 1998 R16 vs Alberto Berasategui - saved 9 match points
Santiago 1998 QF vs Jim Courier - saved 1 match point
Monte-Carlo 1999 QF vs Albert Costa - saved 4 match points
Palermo 2001 SF vs Albert Portas - saved 9 match points (he went on to win that tournament)
Rome 2004 R64 vs Robby Ginepri - saved 4 match points

Winning 2 different matches that he faced 9 match points in was incredible.

Adriano Panatta saved 11 match points in his 1st round match against Kim Wawrick at the Italian Open in 1976. He went on to that tournament and capture his big home city title, beating Vilas in the final.

Alberto Martin saved 10 match points before beating Adrian Voinea in their 1st round match at Bucharest in 1999. Rainer Schuttler also did that in his 1st round match against Andreas Seppi at Kitzbuhel in 2004.
This is impressive. But the difference is Novak saved match points in three grand slam semi finals, one grand slam quarter final, also masters final.

And he played against the toughest players, like Federer, Murray, Tsonga...


Novak really is king of clutch
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:27 PM   #54
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The kid's tough. Can definitely see him winning at least 1 Slam title in his career.

Oh really? You think he'll win at least one? That is so gracious of you. You are only talking about this year No1 player of the world, and 99% year end No1 tennis player, 5 time grand slam winner... and he is only 25. Has at least 3 years at top level, and 6 or 7 good years.

And you think he'll win at least one more grand slam?


Jesus Christ... it's like you're talking about Del Potro or a 100 year old Federer
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Oh really? You think he'll win at least one? That is so gracious of you. You are only talking about this year No1 player of the world, and 99% year end No1 tennis player, 5 time grand slam winner... and he is only 25. Has at least 3 years at top level, and 6 or 7 good years.

And you think he'll win at least one more grand slam?


Jesus Christ... it's like you're talking about Del Potro or a 100 year old Federer
A one slam wonder is not a negative moniker to have. I, for example, have no Grand Slam titles to my name.
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I was pretty much convinced of this at the aussie open. And all those masters wins last year against nadal where he came back from a set down. He does it where he takes a lot of risks even on championship or breakpoint.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:07 PM   #57
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Djokovic's comebacks are far more impressive than any Serena has done and against much more mentally stable competition as well. I think he's definitely mentally tougher than her.
Serena's huge comebacks in slams that she WON alone:

1999 U.S Open 3rd round- down 5-3 in 3rd set, opponent served for match
2002 French Open semis- down 6-3, 6-5
2003 Australian Open 1st round- down match points to Loit in 2nd set
2003 Australian Open semis- down 5-1 and match points in 3rd set
2005 Australian Open semis- down 6-2, 5-3, opponent serving for match, then down match points in 3rd set against opponents serve.
2005 Australian Open final- down 6-1, 2-0, won almost all remaining games
2007 Australian Open 3rd round- down 6-1, 5-4 opponent serving for match
2007 Australian Open quarters- opponent served for match
2008 U.S Open quarters- Venus had many set points in both sets, lost both
2009 Australian Open quarters- opponent killing her, served for straight sets win, lost in 3
2009 Wimbledon semis- down match points in 3rd set
2010 Australian Open quarters- down a set and 4-0
2012 U.S Open final- opponent served for match

That is not even getting into all the ones in slams she didnt win in the end, other tournaments, etc..
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:43 PM   #58
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What exactly did Novak win today?
won 7 of 9 masters
reached final of all masters
won the China double
went ahead of Sampras with 13 ( not sure about this)
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This one was great too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Y9oaHlNC8
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:02 PM   #60
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What exactly did Novak win today?
won 7 of 9 masters
reached final of all masters
won the China double
went ahead of Sampras with 13 ( not sure about this)
Sampras had 11 so Djoko was already ahead of Sampras after Canada.
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