Bookmakers say Djokovic is the favorite to win WTF

5555 · 10-19-2012, 02:58 AM

http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/me...-finals/winner

Alchemy-Z · 10-19-2012, 03:08 AM

He has been a threat in every tournament he's played this year.

RAFA2005RG · 10-19-2012, 03:10 AM

So has Federer and Murray.

djokovic2008 · 10-19-2012, 03:27 AM

He's always favourite, in shanghai at the quarters stage he was 2.45 to win while fed and murray were 5.00 but don't too much notice as at US open he was the favourite big time and we know what happpened.

NatF · 10-19-2012, 04:03 AM

He should be, unless Federer comes into it with his 2010-2011 form.

Steve0904 · 10-19-2012, 04:13 AM

Yeah, this is not a big deal. Doesn't mean he's going to win. Doesn't mean he's not going to win either though. I also don't get the deal with this form thing. Everybody overreacts to losses, especially ones by Federer. He always does great in Basel for obvious reasons, and he's still the best indoor HC player until proven otherwise.

Sentinel · 10-19-2012, 04:47 AM

What are RAfa's odds (as per the bookies) ?

batz · 10-19-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

What are RAfa's odds (as per the bookies) ?

Last time I looked he was about 5/1 for the WTF. I you were to bet on him and he didn't play then you'd get your money back.

pc1 · 10-19-2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by batz

Last time I looked he was about 5/1 for the WTF. I you were to bet on him and he didn't play then you'd get your money back.

What is Nadal's health status as of now? Does it look like he will play?

batz · 10-19-2012, 05:21 AM

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What is Nadal's health status as of now? Does it look like he will play?

Last I heard he said it would be difficult but not impossible for him to play. But the event starts in just over 2 weeks time and to my knowledge, he's still not hitting tennis balls - so I don't think he's very likely to play.

robbo1970 · 10-19-2012, 05:21 AM

He's about the most consistent at getting to semi's and finals along with Murray, so I would say its between those two.

But Djokovic is ranked higher than Murray so he should be favourite.

RAFA2005RG · 10-19-2012, 05:24 AM

I wasn't impressed with Djokovic in Shanghai. I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts. I know Murray lost that final, but 5 matchpoints, so not like there is any real difference between Murray and Djokovic. And I just get the impression Murray has more talent while Djokovic relies more on stamina which is probably not a reliable thing this late in the year.

Duncan Bell · 10-19-2012, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

I wasn't impressed with Djokovic in Shanghai. I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts. I know Murray lost that final, but 5 matchpoints, so not like there is any real difference between Murray and Djokovic. And I just get the impression Murray has more talent while Djokovic relies more on stamina which is probably not a reliable thing this late in the year.

I think I'd agree - I think 2013 could be a real shift in Murray's hard court dominance; starting in Australia.

5555 · 10-19-2012, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts.

If Murray is now better than him on hardcourts why is Djokovic the bookies' favorite to win AO?

TheF1Bob · 10-19-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

I wasn't impressed with Djokovic in Shanghai. I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts. I know Murray lost that final, but 5 matchpoints, so not like there is any real difference between Murray and Djokovic. And I just get the impression Murray has more talent while Djokovic relies more on stamina which is probably not a reliable thing this late in the year.

Seems someone still but hurt from them Novak beatings in 2011.

Did you die a little after AO this year?

RAFA2005RG · 10-19-2012, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 5555

If Murray is now better than him on hardcourts why is Djokovic the bookies' favorite to win AO?

Because Djokovic is the defending champion (although he wasn't exactly convincing in 2012, winning 7-5 in the 5th set vs Murray and Nadal). A win is a win. You are the favorite until you lose. That is how simple bookies are. They don't have time to watch tennis.

RAFA2005RG · 10-19-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheF1Bob

Seems someone still but hurt from them Novak beatings in 2011.

Did you die a little after AO this year?

Actually, I wanted Djokovic to beat Nadal at the 2012 Australian Open final so it would put Djokovic in a position to win The Djokovic Slam, and it would allow Nadal to break Djokovic's heart at Roland Garros. That's the worst feeling. I know, because I had to watch Nadal tear that muscle at the 2011 Australian Open going for The Rafa Slam.

5555 · 10-19-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Because Djokovic is the defending champion (although he wasn't exactly convincing last year). A win is a win. You are the favorite until you lose. That is how simple bookies are. They don't have time to watch tennis.

Nadal was the defending champion at US Open 2011, but Djokovic was the bookies' favorite. Therefore, your argument fails.

RAFA2005RG · 10-19-2012, 05:52 AM

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Nadal was the defending champion at US Open 2011, but Djokovic was the bookies's favorite. Therefore, your argument fails.

It wasn't an argument, it was a factual observation. The bookies usually go with the defending champion. Not always, but nearly always.

5555 · 10-19-2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

It wasn't an argument, it was a factual observation.

It was an argument http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument

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The bookies usually go with the defending champion. Not always, but nearly always.

Your argument is that Djokovic is the bookies' favorite to win AO because he is the defending champion. My counterargument is that Nadal was the defending champion of US Open 2011, but Djokovic was the bookies' favorite. Therefore, your argument fails.

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