2012 WTA Most Improved Player? - Page 2

soyizgood · 10-26-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Good effort by Errani but she falls short today against Radwanska as expected. So Kerber ends the year ranked 1 spot higher, isnt that correct? However she improved her ranking by only 27 spots vs 39 spots for Errani. Errani with better slam performances and more titles, Kerber with more consistently good performances in Premier events. This will be interesting.

I think Kerber finishes #5 and Errani #7. If Errani had won today she would have bumped Kvitova for #6. Kvitova still gets 210 pts from the YEC.

volleyandfun · 10-26-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by soyizgood

I think Kerber finishes #5 and Errani #7. If Errani had won today she would have bumped Kvitova for #6. Kvitova still gets 210 pts from the YEC.

according to WTA Kvitova gets only 70 points and loses a ton, Kerber gets 210

http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-A...12/808/MDS.pdf

boredone3456 · 10-26-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by soyizgood

I think Kerber finishes #5 and Errani #7. If Errani had won today she would have bumped Kvitova for #6. Kvitova still gets 210 pts from the YEC.

Kvitova isn't getting any new points, she is losing a bucketload because she was defending champion. I doubt she loses enough for Errani to bump her though.

augustobt · 10-26-2012, 03:39 PM

What? Are you guys nuts? Errani was a noone and turned out into a GS Finalist.

merwy · 10-26-2012, 03:46 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nogqdsRR5dA

Juan Ma Del Pony · 10-26-2012, 04:14 PM

What about Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player (LIMPS)?

My vote goes to Wozniacki.

volleyandfun · 10-26-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan Ma Del Pony

What about Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player (LIMPS)?

My vote goes to Wozniacki.

Jelena Jankovic or Kuznetzova or Zvonareva

soyizgood · 10-26-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by volleyandfun

Jelena Jankovic or Kuznetzova or Zvonareva

Vera's been injured for almost a year. As for Jelena and Sveta, they just lost interest playing.

soyizgood · 10-26-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by volleyandfun

according to WTA Kvitova gets only 70 points and loses a ton, Kerber gets 210

http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-A...12/808/MDS.pdf

In the past the WTA awarded players that withdrew during the event 210 pts. I think they still do that.

Last year's YEC points have already been taken off.

volleyandfun · 10-26-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soyizgood

In the past the WTA awarded players that withdrew during the event 210 pts. I think they still do that.

Last year's YEC points have already been taken off.

well, that quoted 70 pints comes from WTA site, maybe they changed rules?
did you check the link?

jamesblakefan#1 · 10-26-2012, 06:32 PM

Kerber bc she's not an obvious doper.

jamesblakefan#1 · 10-26-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan Ma Del Pony

What about Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player (LIMPS)?

My vote goes to Wozniacki.

Kvitova deserves a mention after she failed to live up to the GOAT/multi slam hype some put on her the start of the season.

NadalAgassi · 10-26-2012, 07:00 PM

I think Kvitova wins the award for Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player. Kvitova went from the clear #1 player of 2011 to the #6 or #7 this year. Wozniacki only went from the distant #2 to #11, the former is an even bigger fall IMO.

cc0509 · 10-26-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

I think Kvitova wins the award for Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player. Kvitova went from the clear #1 player of 2011 to the #6 or #7 this year. Wozniacki only went from the distant #2 to #11, the former is an even bigger fall IMO.

She was never ranked number one was she? Her highest ranking was number 2 I thought? It is true that Kvitova stagnated this year compared to 2011 but Wozniacki's fall was greater from number one to number 11!

jamesblakefan#1 · 10-26-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cc0509

She was never ranked number one was she? Her highest ranking was number 2 I thought? It is true that Kvitova stagnated this year compared to 2011 but Wozniacki's fall was greater from number one to number 11!

Yeah but Woz's fall was expected. I think everyone could've seen it coming given her weak slam results even last year. Kvitova had higher expectations for 2012 and fell well short of them.

I think Vika deserves some mention for her improvement though. Even though it wasn't as drastic as those listed in the poll, she still took that big step from being a perennial slam QF/SF loser to being a slam winner and coming close to knocking down Serena at the USO, as well as finishing YE #1.

cc0509 · 10-26-2012, 08:45 PM

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jamesblakefan#1;6977342]Yeah but Woz's fall was expected. I think everyone could've seen it coming given her weak slam results even last year. Kvitova had higher expectations for 2012 and fell well short of them.

Yes, Kvitova did not do as well as predicted in 2012 but she was injured or ill a lot this year and also she probably had trouble trying to get used to all of the attention put on her after winning Wimbledon. I think she will get back on track or at least I sure hope so as I am a fan of her game.

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I think Vika deserves some mention for her improvement though. Even though it wasn't as drastic as those listed in the poll, she still took that big step from being a perennial slam QF/SF loser to being a slam winner and coming close to knocking down Serena at the USO, as well as finishing YE #1.

Yes, true. I am not a big Azarenka fan but she deserves respect for her consistent year and her ability to fight Serena probably better than any other player in the past few matches they have played. Her fight against Serena at the USO impressed me.

NadalAgassi · 10-26-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cc0509

She was never ranked number one was she? Her highest ranking was number 2 I thought? It is true that Kvitova stagnated this year compared to 2011 but Wozniacki's fall was greater from number one to number 11!

Wozniacki's year end #1 in 2011 was the most farcial in history so it is easy to disregard. Kvitova was the real and far away #1 last year and everyone knows it (and I am no Petra fan btw). I would say her fall was greater as she went from the closest thing the game had to a dominant player (her 2011 was light years greater in achievement than anyone else) to the World #6 this year. Wozniacki went from someone most basically regarded as the World #4 or #5 to the World #11, not as big a deal IMHO.

soyizgood · 11-28-2012, 11:45 AM

Congrats to Errani. Nice year for Kerber as well.

NadalAgassi · 11-28-2012, 03:03 PM

meh crappy choice I think but congrats to Errani nonetheless. I feel badly for Keber. I can see why Errani won as she had better slam results and more titles, but Kerber fared much better in the Premier events, and came up with more big wins, Errani outside the slams mostly scalped off weak fields in remote places, and even in the slams got some cakewalk draws (yes Keber is part of that, considering Kerber was basically her toughest opponent to a slam semi and 2nd toughest to a slam final, isnt that tough). Errani did beat Kerber twice in slams this year, that was probably also in her favor.

Ripster · 11-29-2012, 03:22 PM

So Errani got it over Kerber?! Strange choice...

View Poll Results: 2012 WTA Most Improved Player?
Kerber	24	64.86%
Errani	9	24.32%
Other	4	10.81%
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10-26-2012, 04:14 PM	#26
Juan Ma Del Pony Professional Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,219	What about Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player (LIMPS)? My vote goes to Wozniacki. __________________ Tammo: "Fed should pack his bags permenantly" Buddy, this is the exact moment that I am waiting for...

10-26-2012, 07:00 PM	#33
NadalAgassi Legend Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,664	I think Kvitova wins the award for Least Improved/Most Stagnating Player. Kvitova went from the clear #1 player of 2011 to the #6 or #7 this year. Wozniacki only went from the distant #2 to #11, the former is an even bigger fall IMO. __________________ TMF on Jan. 2011- Serena is washed up for good, TMF in Oct. 2009- Nadal has won his final slam, TMF in 2011- Woz will beat Serena at U.S Open

11-28-2012, 11:45 AM	#38
soyizgood Legend Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,645	Congrats to Errani. Nice year for Kerber as well. __________________ "The two-hander is just a more secure ball." - Navratilova Dunlop 4D 300/M-Fil 400/Aerogel 300. Babolat PS. 2HBH/Cheap Players club's CEO

11-28-2012, 03:03 PM	#39
NadalAgassi Legend Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,664	meh crappy choice I think but congrats to Errani nonetheless. I feel badly for Keber. I can see why Errani won as she had better slam results and more titles, but Kerber fared much better in the Premier events, and came up with more big wins, Errani outside the slams mostly scalped off weak fields in remote places, and even in the slams got some cakewalk draws (yes Keber is part of that, considering Kerber was basically her toughest opponent to a slam semi and 2nd toughest to a slam final, isnt that tough). Errani did beat Kerber twice in slams this year, that was probably also in her favor. __________________ TMF on Jan. 2011- Serena is washed up for good, TMF in Oct. 2009- Nadal has won his final slam, TMF in 2011- Woz will beat Serena at U.S Open