Paris Draw

[MarianArg]

I'm starting to wonder if djoko will ever get murray on his side of the draw

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by ruerooo

Isn't it kind of early for this?
Valencia and Basel are barely at the semis.

The tournament starts in 2 days, you can blame the scheduling.

[rainingaces]

Even the french give murray cake draws.

[Cesc Fabregas]

I can see Federer and Murray pulling out Djokovic cleaning up a clown draw and then the tennis public declaring him the greatest at this at that. No thanks.

[romeo8880]

It used to not matter who was in Federer's draw because nobody could beat him lol. Now that he's older and clearly not as good as he once was, it matters. A down match can happen anytime with him and if he has one of those against the people in his draw, he will most likely lose. Sometimes reality is sad.

[DragonBlaze]

Fed should just withdraw, focus on WTF. Paris would just take wayyy too much out of him, especially with that draw.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Agreed. Cvacula is the king of Twinkie draws. Nobody gets such pure cake draws as often as he does. May as well hand him the trophy now and save us all the trouble.

Yeah like getting Fed in his half for every HC slam and Nadal in nearly every RG for years.. let's see what was it last year? 6-0 vs Nadal, 4-1 vs Federer?

Originally Posted by The Bawss

Joke draw for Noel. That's ok he deserves one once in a while with all the top 4 guys he has to go through on a regular basis. No, wait...

Yeah but there's NO ONE who can trouble him in the slightest, so his draw shouldn't matter right?

Originally Posted by Clarky21

No. saving us from watching Gumby stretch and ugly up the court. His tennis is too robotic and reeks of academy-bot tennis. I don't like watching him.

Lol, in other words he out nadals Nadal. At least Djokovic has some attacking aspect to his game (though I must admit, ever since he started trying to emulate Nadal, he has been more boring) Nadal has no serve, no backhand, hardly ever comes to the net or steps inside the bassline. This is according to you by the way

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by DragonBlaze

Fed should just withdraw, focus on WTF. Paris would just take wayyy too much out of him, especially with that draw.

if he wasn't defending champ, i'd agree. not even about points, but trying to defend your title is good to see

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Towser83

Yeah like getting Fed in his half for every HC slam and Nadal in nearly every RG for years.. let's see what was it last year? 6-0 vs Nadal, 4-1 vs Federer?



Yeah but there's NO ONE who can trouble him in the slightest, so his draw shouldn't matter right?



Lol, in other words he out nadals Nadal. At least Djokovic has some attacking aspect to his game (though I must admit, ever since he started trying to emulate Nadal, he has been more boring) Nadal has no serve, no backhand, hardly ever comes to the net or steps inside the bassline. This is according to you by the way

Since when did Nadal resemble Stretch Armstrong? How about never in his entire career(and that's a good thing).


And Cvacula can try to emulate Nadal all day long but he will never achieve it. He could only dream of being as big a superstar as Nadal,and that's what he would love to have most,being the attention seeker he is.


A lot of that is true. Nadal does have a weak serve,backhand,and is far too defensive by hanging out in the stands. What's the problem with saying it?

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Cesc Fabregas

I can see Federer and Murray pulling out Djokovic cleaning up a clown draw and then the tennis public declaring him the greatest at this at that. No thanks.

Yeah,and they will. If we end up with another Toronto on our hands I will gladly skip this tournament. Watching Cvacula is torturous.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Since when did Nadal resemble Stretch Armstrong? How about never in his entire career(and that's a good thing).


And Cvacula can try to emulate Nadal all day long but he will never achieve it. He could only dream of being as big a superstar as Nadal,and that's what he would love to have most,being the attention seeker he is.


A lot of that is true. Nadal does have a weak serve,backhand,and is far too defensive by hanging out in the stands. What's the problem with saying it?

Nadal is responisble for Djokovic and Murray playing grinder tennis. They modelled their epic and often borring rally style after him. True story.

He will never achieve what? According to you he's more talented and will win more than Nadal. But Nadal is the bigger "superstar"? right well glad I figured out what's most important to you.

Nothing wrong with saying it. But what you're saying is he's game is boring, defensive and lacking in any attacking intent. But I guess some people find that entertaining... point is his game is like a less attacking, more grind based version of Djokovic. Like if Djokovic became more boring than he's already become. But you don't like Djokovic's game because he does the slits? Lol, you just don't like him, it's not even to do with game. All the things you criticise Nadal for NOT doing are things that Djokovic DOES do.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Yeah,and they will. If we end up with another Toronto on our hands I will gladly skip this tournament. Watching Cvacula is torturous.

Please be nice and create a difficult draw for Djokovic...

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Yeah,and they will. If we end up with another Toronto on our hands I will gladly skip this tournament. Watching Cvacula is torturous.

Or another clay/grass season 2010. When Nadal was unbelieeeeeeeeeveable at beating chumps

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Towser83

Nadal is responisble for Djokovic and Murray playing grinder tennis. They modelled their epic and often borring rally style after him. True story.He will never achieve what? According to you he's more talented and will win more than Nadal. But Nadal is the bigger "superstar"? right well glad I figured out what's most important to you.

Nothing wrong with saying it. But what you're saying is he's game is boring, defensive and lacking in any attacking intent. But I guess some people find that entertaining... point is his game is like a less attacking, more grind based version of Djokovic. Like if Djokovic became more boring than he's already become. But you don't like Djokovic's game because he does the slits? Lol, you just don't like him, it's not even to do with game. All the things you criticise Nadal for NOT doing are things that Djokovic DOES do.

I guess there were no "grinders" before Nadal came on the scene. And if Cvacula is becoming more like Nadal,a player you hate,I guess you should be just as disgusted with Cvacula as you are with Nadal.


He is more talented than Nadal,but so are a lot of player's. Believe me,my having to compliment Cvacula on anything tests my gag reflex. Lol.


It's not important to me,it's important to Cvacula. And I have been a fan of Nadal since 2005. Long before he became the superstar he is today. And who are you to talk about liking star players when you are a *******? Is he slumming it out in the pits trying to gain in popularity? Fed is the biggest tennis star going these days. Pot meet kettle,dude.



This is the ******* in you talking. You sound just like Magnus,Drakulie,TMF... And that's not a compliment.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Towser83

Or another clay/grass season 2010. When Nadal was unbelieeeeeeeeeveable at beating chumps

Fed is a chump then,huh? How about Soderling in the RG final? How about Berdych at Wimby? Cvacula at the USO? Yep,those are some mighty big chumps there,Towser.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Towser83

Or another clay/grass season 2010. When Nadal was unbelieeeeeeeeeveable at beating chumps

You're a little exaggerating here, Nadal beats Berdych, Murray, Soderling two times, Federer, Ferrer and Verdasco ( btw Verdasco beats Djokovic two times on clay in 2010)! Better that you mentioned USO 2010

[SoBad]

Federer doesn't even have a draw - it's a torture chamber. Facing prime Baghdatis early in the tournament? I wouldn't be surprised if the fragile swede dope withdrew from the tournament altogether.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

You're a little exaggerating here, Nadal beats Berdych, Murray, Soderling two times, Federer, Ferrer and Verdasco ( btw Verdasco beats Djokovic two times on clay in 2010)! Better that you mentioned USO 2010

Then I guess Cvacula is a chump then. And don't give me this 2.0 crap because that's bs. Nadal is a mug on hardcourts,and was playing a guy who had not only been in a USO final once before,but is also the best hardcourt player in the world. He had also handed Nadal some beatdowns on HC many times before that match.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I guess there were no "grinders" before Nadal came on the scene. And if Cvacula is becoming more like Nadal,a player you hate,I guess you should be just as disgusted with Cvacula as you are with Nadal.


He is more talented than Nadal,but so are a lot of player's. Believe me,my having to compliment Cvacula on anything tests my gag reflex. Lol.


It's not important to me,it's important to Cvacula. And I have been a fan of Nadal since 2005. Long before he became the superstar he is today. And who are you to talk about liking star players when you are a *******? Is he slumming it out in the pits trying to gain in popularity? Fed is the biggest tennis star going these days. Pot meet kettle,dude.



This is the ******* in you talking. You sound just like Magnus,Drakulie,TMF... And that's not a compliment.

No but Nadal took it to a new level of grinding. Now with Djokovic and Murray trying to do it too, tennis is getting ridiculous. And I'm not disgusted with Nadal, but I am dissapointed in Djokovic, his HC game was much better to watch in 2008. Now I'm losing patience in his grindfests with Nadal and Murray.

You don't even get my point. I'm not calling you out for liking a "superstar" player, I'm saying you said Djokovic will never be what nadal is, which is what? A superstar? Who cares? I'd rather achieve more than be more popular. You started liking Nadal the year he won his first slam. Big deal, I liked Federer in 2001 and Djokovic in 2006, before they won anything of note.

Not that it really matter, I don't care when you started liking Nadal, I never accused you of liking him for being a superstar, I just thought it was a crap point to brag about. Btw I like the way you now change your story and call me a *******. I thought I was a *********? You can't keep your story straight, you had to change it there to accuse me of liking a superstar player (cos you just said Djokovic wasn't one) The fact that you can't decide between ******* and ********* kind of proves I'm neither. There's things i like and dislike about both of them.

But in your world everything is black and white, cos any shades of grey and you get confused...

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Then I guess Cvacula is a chump then. And don't give me this 2.0 crap because that's bs. Nadal is a mug on hardcourts,and was playing a guy who had not only been in a USO final once before,but is also the best hardcourt player in the world. He had also handed Nadal some beatdowns on HC many times before that match.

Yes, but only Djokovic! He played against Youzhny in SF (and don't give me this 2006 USO crap because that's bs ) and Verdasco in QF! But I admit that Nadal was in good shape, so that the draw may not be so important!