Syn Gut Mains - Awesome!

[Ronaldo]

Originally Posted by JT_2eighty

I may have to try this out. Anyone use this setup with either N.Vy mains or WC SupercablePro mains? I have those syn guts on hand, may compare it to my usual gut/poly.

Is Babolat 'super fine play' a syn gut?

Believe that is the old name for Bab SG. Used both, both soft.

[tball]

I like Prince TopSpin 15L in the mains. Does not matter what's in the crosses (although, Forten Sweet 16 is the best). I started using this to tamper racquets with excessive power. I worked really well for that purpose. Better than poly. Good durability, decent spin, soft feel - what's not to like?

[DAS2011]

Update of my K93 strung with OGSM 16/Beast 16 at 52/50:

After about 6 hours of moderately hard hitting, I really like this set-up. Great pocketing, comfort, and control. I also got impressive access to spin (even with the tight 18X20), but can still control a heavy drive.

Whats most impressive is the durability. There is relatively little wear on the mains and very little notching. Considering the playability, durability, and the price of about $9.13 a string job, I have become a believer. In fact, this set-up has me considering a switch back to the K93 after 2 years with the Prince Tour 16X18. Well, I'll see what happens after the honeymoon...

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by DAS2011

Update of my K93 strung with OGSM 16/Beast 16 at 52/50:

After about 6 hours of moderately hard hitting, I really like this set-up. Great pocketing, comfort, and control. I also got impressive access to spin (even with the tight 18X20), but can still control a heavy drive.

Whats most impressive is the durability. There is relatively little wear on the mains and very little notching. Considering the playability, durability, and the price of about $9.13 a string job, I have become a believer. In fact, this set-up has me considering a switch back to the K93 after 2 years with the Prince Tour 16X18. Well, I'll see what happens after the honeymoon...

Wow 6 hours with OGSM mains -- it's an incredibly long honeymoon for this particular string. I wonder what your experience with Forten Sweet would be, it's like twice more resilient than OGSM.

[ricki]

Once you talk about synguts, which synguts are "smooth-oily-surfaced"? I dont know how to name it correctly, well exact opposite of prince syn gut duraflex - they become rough and wont slide easily and they stay jammed on place. Any smooth syngut other than (now unavailable) Recoil?

[DAS2011]

Originally Posted by maxpotapov

Wow 6 hours with OGSM mains -- it's an incredibly long honeymoon for this particular string. I wonder what your experience with Forten Sweet would be, it's like twice more resilient than OGSM.

I actually meant the honeymoon with the K93, but you're right -- the strings are maintaing playability for a very long time. I hit with them again today for about 2.5 hours, and I'll admit that balls started to sail a little bit, but its managable and the strings are still very playable overall.

Originally Posted by ricki

Once you talk about synguts, which synguts are "smooth-oily-surfaced"? I dont know how to name it correctly, well exact opposite of prince syn gut duraflex - they become rough and wont slide easily and they stay jammed on place. Any smooth syngut other than (now unavailable) Recoil?

OGSM is plently slick. I'm sure I have played with some other smooth ones, but I can't remember taking note of that.

[Ronaldo]

You guys must string your racquet weekly, eh?

[DAS2011]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

You guys must string your racquet weekly, eh?

Actually I don't. Usually I use Beast in a full poly set and those last me a good while and I usually cut it out when the playability

[DAS2011]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

You guys must string your racquet weekly, eh?

Actually I don't. Usually I use Beast in a full poly set and those last me a good while but I usually cut it out when the playability is gone.

[maxpotapov]

Next two hours with Forten Sweet mains / Polystar Turbo crosses at 48 lbs in Dunlop MW 200G. Comfort and power and spin are still there, but now I can see limitations of such setup. If crosses are extremely textured (nothing beats Polystar Turbo in this regard), things get out of control sometimes. If I brush the ball with sharp/textured mains I know exactly what to expect in any situation, not so with smooth mains and textured crosses. For instance, it was hard to control forehand slice, as Polystar Turbo crosses bite and launch the ball in some other direction. It works good for sidespin though.

I think for any smooth poly, it is best to use it as a cross with synthetic or natural gut mains. With sharp (shaped/textured) poly strings things are more complicated.

[Ronaldo]

Originally Posted by DAS2011

Actually I don't. Usually I use Beast in a full poly set and those last me a good while but I usually cut it out when the playability is gone.

From stringing posts lately, 12 hrs seems to be the max anyone gets from their set-up. By breakage or just unplayable from loss of tension.

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

From stringing posts lately, 12 hrs seems to be the max anyone gets from their set-up. By breakage or just unplayable from loss of tension.

That's why I'm trying to move on to natural gut hybrids for my regular practice. But for competition purposes I think I will have to switch to some "cheater's" setup with sharp/textured poly mains and supersleek/firm crosses which I will use 5 hours max and restring constantly during competition week.

[swfh]

strung up my 4d 300 tour with gosen syn gut 16 mains, IBS crosses, 54/50. I have not had a chance to hit with it yet, but from bouncing around a ball, it is awesome. Ill post feedback when I play.

[boramiNYC]

I am settling towards an unusual setup after much experimenting thru tournaments. E fh, 1hbh, aggressive all court game, and using dunlop AG 4D 100 with 90 sq in and 16x19.

17g syn gut main at 50 (this I'm trying to go lower) and stiff 16g poly at 30 (tried 25 as well but not much difference). gives plush feel but not as bouncy as you think. the poly holds the bounciness at the limit but give some room for syn gut to improve the feel.

[Borrelli]

I have Forten sweet 16 mains and co-focus crosses in my back-up K90 and I can't notice too much difference from my usual Klip legend mains. Maybe a little less power but still pretty good. I rarely break strings though. Guess I need to start hitting the gym harder lol. I often wonder how guys are breaking strings so quickly? I mean you don't see pro's going through strings like that.

[COPEY]

Originally Posted by Borrelli

I have Forten sweet 16 mains and co-focus crosses in my back-up K90 and I can't notice too much difference from my usual Klip legend mains. Maybe a little less power but still pretty good. I rarely break strings though. Guess I need to start hitting the gym harder lol. I often wonder how guys are breaking strings so quickly? I mean you don't see pro's going through strings like that.

(1) Quite a few pros switch racquets at the ball change - 7 & 9, and some at the start of a new set.
(2) I would guess that some of the string breaks you read about here are from shanks.
(3) I'm sure some are legit, but I also think some people have really good imaginations.

[swfh]

had a hit with ogsm 16 mains isospeed baseline spin crosses, and I was pleasantly surprised. I wasnt really impressed with the spin, but i was impressed with the ability to flatten out forehands. My serves also didnt have enough pop on them, and not enough spin. I suppose I could address this by going to a 17g string.
I didnt think I could play with syn gut mains, but I am now thinking about making ogsm 17 mains ibs crosses my main setup. Any thoughts?

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by Borrelli

I have Forten sweet 16 mains and co-focus crosses in my back-up K90 and I can't notice too much difference from my usual Klip legend mains. Maybe a little less power but still pretty good. I rarely break strings though. Guess I need to start hitting the gym harder lol. I often wonder how guys are breaking strings so quickly? I mean you don't see pro's going through strings like that.

I believe it depends on what sort of ball you are dealing with too. Obviously if you are just rallying with a patty-cake ball it's going to put a lot less stress on your strings than if you are dealing with high pace on every incoming shot. I like to think of it as comparing getting with in the face with a pillow compared to a brick. Both might break your nose, but ones going to be doing a lot more damage in a shorter amount of time!

-Fuji

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by swfh

had a hit with ogsm 16 mains isospeed baseline spin crosses, and I was pleasantly surprised. I wasnt really impressed with the spin, but i was impressed with the ability to flatten out forehands. My serves also didnt have enough pop on them, and not enough spin. I suppose I could address this by going to a 17g string.
I didnt think I could play with syn gut mains, but I am now thinking about making ogsm 17 mains ibs crosses my main setup. Any thoughts?

Gosen has very little power, especially next time you play with it. It is only good as a cross for some powerful and/or shaped poly. Going to 17 g will only help so much. Try Forten Sweet or some other syn gut instead if you want more power and resilience in the mains.

[Irakli]

max,

are you still using this setup?

Really would like to hear some updates, so I'm bumping this thread.

Irakli