Del Potro: Predict his result at WTFs 2012

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

I would say Semifinal. It depends a lot on which side of the RR he is....the opponents he has to face in RR, Semifinals,or Finals.

It would better to be on a side of Federer and Murray,Than with the likes of Djokovic and Ferrer.

He could win this whole thing or could not even get out of the RR with tough matches against 2 of the top 4, and Berdych.

The event is unpredictable for everyone barring Federer who can just steam through.

LOL do you actually think Ferrer is a tougher opponent for Del Potro than Murray. Yeah I know Ferrer has done well vs him sometimes in the past, and beat him easily at Wimbledon, but Del Potro playing great can easily beat Ferrer. Murray who he has only beaten once on clay is by far a tougher opponent.

[vive le beau jeu !]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

That's true, i was thinking Delpo was the favourite in Wimbledon, and David beat him easily...

Originally Posted by vive le beau jeu !

i was really surprised by the severe score of this wimbledon match... what happened ?

Originally Posted by kaku

His movement on grass got exposed

but still... he really got spanked whereas he looked good at the olympics some weeks later !

[Hawkeye7]

I think Ferrer's gamestyle bothers him and he might get frustrated at times because against great defenders you have to hit 'winners' more than once at times. That one extra ball could end up being an unforced error more often than not. He also lost to Ferrer on hard court this year in straight sets.

Plus he's just not a great grass-player. He has never reached a Wimbledon QF.

[batz]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

LOL do you actually think Ferrer is a tougher opponent for Del Potro than Murray. Yeah I know Ferrer has done well vs him sometimes in the past, and beat him easily at Wimbledon, but Del Potro playing great can easily beat Ferrer. Murray who he has only beaten once on clay is by far a tougher opponent.

Delpo is 2-2 v Ferrer on hards, 0-4 versus Murray. Only on TT could those stats lead to a conclusion that Delpo would be better off playing Murray.

[kaku]

Originally Posted by vive le beau jeu !

but still... he really got spanked whereas he looked good at the olympics some weeks later !

Feds style doesn't make delpo move like ferrers does

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye7

He also lost to Ferrer on hard court this year in straight sets.



Plus he's just not a great grass-player. He has never reached a Wimbledon QF.

Yes, but he beat Djokovic and won bronze medal...movement is the biggest problem for him, but there is room for improvement...

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by batz

Delpo is 2-2 v Ferrer on hards, 0-4 versus Murray. Only on TT could those stats lead to a conclusion that Delpo would be better off playing Murray.

NadAgassi....it would be better if DelPotro would be playing against 1 Aggressor and 1 Counterpuncher than 2 Counterpuchers.

Historically 1 and 3 seeded on the one side, 2 and 4 on another.
Del Potro would rather be with Fedray and DjokFer.

No question Murray would be tougher than Ferrer. Del Potro at least can play Federer more confortably than Ferrer. Murray and Djokovic are the same....so you can't pick chose.

If Ferrer and Federer on one side....than Del Potro would benefit on that side then.

[underground]

SF loss to Murray, who goes on to lose in the Final against Djokovic/Federer.

[rainingaces]

I think he will get out of his group other then that anything is possible.
I hope he comes forward and does not over rely on his forehand.

[batz]

I'd love to see him do well but if he doesn't pull out of Paris then he's going to be knackered in London - it's tough for anyone to go deep for 4 weeks in a row.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by batz

I'd love to see him do well but if he doesn't pull out of Paris then he's going to be knackered in London - it's tough for anyone to go deep for 4 weeks in a row.

Yes, Delpo might tanked against Falla...

[Talker]

A lot of it depends on DelPo's form.
It's been good at times this year but his endurance has been substandard.

I've seen him let balls go by and then later run them down with energy.
To me this is conserving energy and waiting for the right moment to go all out.
His endurance is lacking or it has been.
If he can get that part of his game at top level he'll be much tougher to beat.

DelPo's had more than enough time to work on this area but hasn't done enough.

Other parts of his game is steadily improving.

[beast of mallorca]

Originally Posted by Towser83

that was the exact group I posted as being his best shot on another thread.

Also he has had a lot of close losses to Murray, so I don't rule him out against him but Murray is a better player these days. However if he played him first match and say Murray had just played the Paris final, then who knows? Tiredness might play a part.

Actually thinking about this, imagine the groups are

Federer
Murray
Berdych
Tsonga

Djokovic
Ferrer
Delpo
Tipsarevic

Delpo is runner up and Djokovic winner, of the other group Murray wins and Fed is runner up. Now Delpo can lose to Djokovic in the group matches, play one great match vs Fed and he's in the final. If Murray is there and tired from an epic match,maybe Delpo wins. It's a big stretch but it is maybe the best chance to win the whole thing.

Hope it's not Tipsy. Hopefully an outsider, preferably Raonic can do great at the Masters in Paris to possibly clinch the spot from Tipsy, with Tipsy losing early.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by beast of mallorca

Hope it's not Tipsy. Hopefully an outsider, preferably Raonic can do great at the Masters in Paris to possibly clinch the spot from Tipsy, with Tipsy losing early.

Well, Raonic has to reach at least finals in Paris, and he didn't have much luck in the draw, Djokovic is waiting him in the fourth round! Gasquet have a better chance for WTFs...

[beast of mallorca]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

Well, Raonic has to reach at least finals in Paris, and he didn't have much luck in the draw, Djokovic is waiting him in the fourth round! Gasquet have a better chance for WTFs...

Well, as what was being contemplated in the other thread, Djokvic might be sick/not 100% and might pull out, so everything is possible. I certainly want Raonic better than Tipsy.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by beast of mallorca

Well, as what was being contemplated in the other thread, Djokvic might be sick/not 100% and might pull out, so everything is possible. I certainly want Raonic better than Tipsy.

Looks like you're not his biggest fan?

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Well if Fed is runner up in a group with Murray and Del Potro runner up in the other behind Djokovic, Del Potro wouldnt play Federer in the semis. He would play Murray. The 1 plays the 2 from the other group in the crossover semis. Federer would have to win his group over Murray for the above scenario to play out.

Yeah sorry, I know how the semis work, just mistyped what I wanted to say

[Hawkeye7]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

Yes, but he beat Djokovic and won bronze medal...movement is the biggest problem for him, but there is room for improvement...

I know. But a couple of great matches don't make him a great grass-courter. We'll see next year at Wimbledon I suppose.

[sbengte]

Runner up.

[beast of mallorca]

Originally Posted by sbengte

Runner up.

If Djoko or Murray loses early or just "tanks" to prepare for the WTF, I do hope
it would be Delpo or Ferrer.