How do you contain the power so easily? - Page 8

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-30-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuji

That's really lucky! I wish my Uni offered a development course like that!

-Fuji

Well it's like a rec class but its half training half matches

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-30-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD

Why are we trying to "contain" the power? Why not harness it and use it to our advantage?

Lol wtf are you talking about LeeD?

LeeD · 10-30-2012, 05:33 PM

What does "contain" cannote.
To keep it under control, right?
Why not utilize the power?

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-30-2012, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD

What does "contain" cannote.
To keep it under control, right?
Why not utilize the power?

Isn't that what we were talking about before? And we concluded that spin was the way to harness the power? Lol

LeeD · 10-30-2012, 06:12 PM

You said you don't hit with good spin, as one shot goes low, the other high.
So where does that leave you?
I say, swing as fast as you can under control, adding spin if needed, flatten it as needed.

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-30-2012, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD

You said you don't hit with good spin, as one shot goes low, the other high.
So where does that leave you?
I say, swing as fast as you can under control, adding spin if needed, flatten it as needed.

Depending on the circumstances and direction it's coming from. I can't wait for my class so that I can play against hard hitters

TennisCJC · 10-30-2012, 06:46 PM

MHH93, seems like you are looking for a new racket quite a bit. Get any decent racket and that's it. The MG Rad or the older Dunlop AG 4d 300 that was on sale would both be great.

Then, stick with it for a minimum of 1 year - preferably 2 years.

I think you might want to learn more about technique and how to play tennis as equipment is only going to do so much.

Ideas other than buying a new racket:

1. Join a local USTA team that takes team lessons - cost is usually under $100 for the USTA fees and 7-10 weekly team lessons.
2. Get a 1-3 friends and buy a package of 4-6 lessons from a local pro. Again, cost should be low.
3. Buy a good tennis book and use it to work on your technique. I did this when I was young and my game was much improved after reading the book and sticking to the changes for 3 months.
4. Buy a 1 week package at a junior camp or adult camp. There has to be something near Michigan that is good. Nike has camps pretty much everywhere. If you are still in High School, tell your parents that's what you want for XMAS.

A racket will make a small change in the amount of power, spin or control your game has but in general, your technique is overwhelmingly more important to these attributes of your game.

In a nut shell, get a pretty decent racket for your game. It does not have to be perfect. Then concentrate on fine tuning your game. As you improve, you will begin to know more about which rackets are good for your game. I like thin beam, flexible, and moderately heavy rackets. I don't like thick beam, stiffer, and lighter rackets - I have strayed and tried thicker/stiffer frames but always go back to thin beams.

But, when I was young and a due to a shortage of funds, I would sometimes buy a couple of frames and play with them for many years. I played my Prince Precision Graphites for at least 5-6 years - maybe longer. I played the Volkl Quantum Tour 10 rackets for 4+ years. Older Tecnifibre 320 for 3 years. My current Volkl O10 295's are almost 2 years old now. Changing frames every year is not necessary especially if you are going to a different class of racket each time.

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-30-2012, 07:21 PM

You caught me :P the funny thing is, I haven't kept any of the rackets that I have purchased. The only one I still have is my pro open, and I am going to stay with it.

The thing is, I shouldn't even really be worrying about even getting better. I am a college student and I work all of the time that I'm not at school. I still live with my parents, and taking once a week lessons would be the most I can do. I am probably going to not work as hard this summer, however, and do something as you are describing. I have never even heard of any of these things before.

I currently only have one love in my life, and her name is tennis.

I have one friend that I am sure would join me in hiring a pro to teach us. I actually know a pro, but he works somewhere that is incredibly expensive ($120/month). He is also getting too busy to even strong my rackets anymore and he lives too far away to offer private lessons.

I am going to check my college course that LCC offers and see what it's all about. Hopefully I get some good instruction out of it as well as some good fun tennis

So, for now, I believe I am done looking for a new racket. Instead, I will buy one or two used backups of my same racket and I will try out different strings, as I have made it clear that I want a stringer for Xmas. I love the way this racket plays, so I believe I need look no further. Ill instead spend my money on string, shoes, overgrip, and a new bag since I own a prince bag right now.

LeeD · 10-30-2012, 07:57 PM

I sincerely HOPE your tennis class is the level you think it is.
Not trying to jinx you. "Intermediate" is often for people who played 5 times.
Hope it's not, in your case.

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-30-2012, 08:06 PM

I hope so too but I talked to the Instructor and he said they were mostly 4.0

RollTrackTake · 10-30-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Lol how long did it last?

Lasted me 20+ hours! I don't crush the ball mind you except for 1st serves. I go with a medium paced loopy topspin forehand and a flatter top 2hbh. no elbow issues as well. The Pro Open (mine are the NCode versions) are really good racquets imo. I think you really have to figure out what type of game you want to play and where you want to go with it. The Pro Open is versatile but if you want to swing out on every shot and let it rip you may want to switch to a low powered 'players' frame. You'll perfect generating your own power (if not already) and have better control. keep in mind there are tons of college level players using APDGT's and Pure Drives and the Pro Open is very similar. if you put the work in with any racquet you'll figure out how to use it the way you want.

gregor.b · 10-30-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

I'm glad you're one to learn, and good for you! Certainly a rare breed when everyone looks for quick fixes by means of equipment "upgrade".

Firstly, what grip are you using? Certain grips make it harder to impart spin, but not impossible. Western-ish grips have an easier time to impart spin because of the contact point and swing path. Eastern-ish grips have a harder time to impart spin, but not impossible.

Secondly, spin can come down to faith you have in yourself. You really have swing faster, if you're hesitant on the stroke, chances are it'll fly out. So don't be afraid, and swing out. You have to believe the brush and the subsequent spin will keep the ball in the court.

This one. I generate a bucket load of spin using an 18 x 19 pattern but I actually swing a little more aggressively when trying to hit angles or really rip the ball. It usually comes down to grip and/or lack of racquet head speed. Practice and you will find out fairly quickly.

Timbo's hopeless slice · 10-30-2012, 08:56 PM

Greg!

so, how is the 2HBH coming?

be up your way after christmas, hit?

TennisCJC · 10-31-2012, 08:15 AM

Does your college offer intramural or a club team options for tennis. I know some intermediate level players that were not strong enough to play collegiate tennis but they played club or intramural. Might be a good way to meet tennis players. Also, mixed doubles could really open up some options - co-eds in nice tennis clothes sounds great to an old man like me.

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-31-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TennisCJC

Does your college offer intramural or a club team options for tennis. I know some intermediate level players that were not strong enough to play collegiate tennis but they played club or intramural. Might be a good way to meet tennis players. Also, mixed doubles could really open up some options - co-eds in nice tennis clothes sounds great to an old man like me.

Lol! No I am at a community college and there's no team. I'm going to play at the club level hopefully when I transfer to a university. That sounds excellent to me as well...most tennis chicks are nice and lean

LeeD · 10-31-2012, 01:43 PM

Community college, 4.0 intermediate class, I don't think so.
4.5 would be varsity tennis team.
But I hope the coach is right.

MikeHitsHard93 · 10-31-2012, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD

Community college, 4.0 intermediate class, I don't think so.
4.5 would be varsity tennis team.
But I hope the coach is right.

Like I said, I will try it out. I can get my money back

10-30-2012, 06:46 PM	#147
TennisCJC Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,401	MHH93, seems like you are looking for a new racket quite a bit. Get any decent racket and that's it. The MG Rad or the older Dunlop AG 4d 300 that was on sale would both be great. Then, stick with it for a minimum of 1 year - preferably 2 years. I think you might want to learn more about technique and how to play tennis as equipment is only going to do so much. Ideas other than buying a new racket: 1. Join a local USTA team that takes team lessons - cost is usually under $100 for the USTA fees and 7-10 weekly team lessons. 2. Get a 1-3 friends and buy a package of 4-6 lessons from a local pro. Again, cost should be low. 3. Buy a good tennis book and use it to work on your technique. I did this when I was young and my game was much improved after reading the book and sticking to the changes for 3 months. 4. Buy a 1 week package at a junior camp or adult camp. There has to be something near Michigan that is good. Nike has camps pretty much everywhere. If you are still in High School, tell your parents that's what you want for XMAS. A racket will make a small change in the amount of power, spin or control your game has but in general, your technique is overwhelmingly more important to these attributes of your game. In a nut shell, get a pretty decent racket for your game. It does not have to be perfect. Then concentrate on fine tuning your game. As you improve, you will begin to know more about which rackets are good for your game. I like thin beam, flexible, and moderately heavy rackets. I don't like thick beam, stiffer, and lighter rackets - I have strayed and tried thicker/stiffer frames but always go back to thin beams. But, when I was young and a due to a shortage of funds, I would sometimes buy a couple of frames and play with them for many years. I played my Prince Precision Graphites for at least 5-6 years - maybe longer. I played the Volkl Quantum Tour 10 rackets for 4+ years. Older Tecnifibre 320 for 3 years. My current Volkl O10 295's are almost 2 years old now. Changing frames every year is not necessary especially if you are going to a different class of racket each time. Last edited by TennisCJC : 10-30-2012 at 06:48 PM.

10-30-2012, 07:21 PM	#148
MikeHitsHard93 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,814	You caught me :P the funny thing is, I haven't kept any of the rackets that I have purchased. The only one I still have is my pro open, and I am going to stay with it. The thing is, I shouldn't even really be worrying about even getting better. I am a college student and I work all of the time that I'm not at school. I still live with my parents, and taking once a week lessons would be the most I can do. I am probably going to not work as hard this summer, however, and do something as you are describing. I have never even heard of any of these things before. I currently only have one love in my life, and her name is tennis. I have one friend that I am sure would join me in hiring a pro to teach us. I actually know a pro, but he works somewhere that is incredibly expensive ($120/month). He is also getting too busy to even strong my rackets anymore and he lives too far away to offer private lessons. I am going to check my college course that LCC offers and see what it's all about. Hopefully I get some good instruction out of it as well as some good fun tennis So, for now, I believe I am done looking for a new racket. Instead, I will buy one or two used backups of my same racket and I will try out different strings, as I have made it clear that I want a stringer for Xmas. I love the way this racket plays, so I believe I need look no further. Ill instead spend my money on string, shoes, overgrip, and a new bag since I own a prince bag right now. __________________ ~Wilson BLX Pro Open~

10-30-2012, 08:06 PM	#150
MikeHitsHard93 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,814	I hope so too but I talked to the Instructor and he said they were mostly 4.0 __________________ ~Wilson BLX Pro Open~

10-30-2012, 08:56 PM	#153
Timbo's hopeless slice Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,107	Greg! so, how is the 2HBH coming? be up your way after christmas, hit? __________________ 5.0 all courter. Betting the house on black 7 spades.. (Volkl X-7 310 WITH CYCLONE @ 55) "Tennis isn't easy" - Corners

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