2hbh. 2nd hand, what is the prevailing thought on the grip?

[2ndServe]

what do most of the great 2h use? Is it the eastern forehand grip for the off hand or slightly weaker?

[Kilco]

Eastern forehand grip with the top hand.
Continental with the bottom.
Some use both continental but can be harder to hit topspin that way.

[WildVolley]

I think the top hand should be eastern to semi-western and the bottom hand continental, as that allows easier access to slice and drop shots.

[tennis_hack]

When I had a 2hbh I'd use semi-western 1hbh grip with the bottom hand, and full western forehand grip with the top hand.

[LeeD]

Would it depend on the player's height and the height of the expected incoming balls?
Rochus would use a stronger grip, but I don't think Ferrer does.
Isner would use a weaker grip, as would Querry, because they seldom encounter shoulder high balls.

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Would it depend on the player's height and the height of the expected incoming balls?
Rochus would use a stronger grip, but I don't think Ferrer does.
Isner would use a weaker grip, as would Querry, because they seldom encounter shoulder high balls.

Tall players encounter plenty of backhands at the shoulders...Have a look through google images. What height you take the ball at is more a function of footwork and body position, not just how tall you are. You can take it at any point during the rise, depending on position.

[LeeD]

What you say sounds great in theory, but the difference between the shortest ATP pro and the tallest is over a foot and 5", or SEVENTEEN inches.
And that is exaggerated by the fact the tall players don't tend to bend their knees, while the shorter players have no problems bending low for their shots.
Also, taller players have bigger feet, longer arms, so they can raise up higher with little effort, while the guy with a size 7 shoe size has to jump up for higher balls.
You should read what you wrote again.
I can hit twist serves OVER THE HEAD of a 5' tall player, but a 6'5" player takes it around shoulder high. That is a HUGE difference in strikepoint for the returner.
And that is also why short guys like Chang, Rochus, Barrasetchi need strong grips while tall players like Isner and Dr.Ivo use much weaker grips to counter their often encountered LOW balls to them.

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by LeeD

What you say sounds great in theory, but the difference between the shortest ATP pro and the tallest is over a foot and 5", or SEVENTEEN inches.
And that is exaggerated by the fact the tall players don't tend to bend their knees, while the shorter players have no problems bending low for their shots.
Also, taller players have bigger feet, longer arms, so they can raise up higher with little effort, while the guy with a size 7 shoe size has to jump up for higher balls.
You should read what you wrote again.
I can hit twist serves OVER THE HEAD of a 5' tall player, but a 6'5" player takes it around shoulder high. That is a HUGE difference in strikepoint for the returner.
And that is also why short guys like Chang, Rochus, Barrasetchi need strong grips while tall players like Isner and Dr.Ivo use much weaker grips to counter their often encountered LOW balls to them.

I get all that. But you said taller players seldom encounter shoulder high balls. Just not true. That said, do you have evidence that the height of the player determines the grip, or is this just a theory of yours. I think it's the latter.

[LeeD]

It's purely a theory of mine.
Of course, based on much more experience than YOU have, and backed by countless ATP players on tour on previously was on tour.
Of course, you don't know at all, which is why you have to stance....except that I am wrong.
Just happens, my theory is correct.

[rkelley]

I believe the most common combination is continental on the dominant hand and E to SW on the non-dominant hand.

[LeeD]

Say a top player's groundies bounce about 5' high at the baseline.
A 6'10" person takes it around shoulder to upper chest high.
DominkaCibulkova takes it at the top of her head.
Can we agree they might have different grips?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Would it depend on the player's height and the height of the expected incoming balls?
Rochus would use a stronger grip, but I don't think Ferrer does.
Isner would use a weaker grip, as would Querry, because they seldom encounter shoulder high balls.

This is a thread about the 2hbh. Rochus uses a 1 hander.

[ricki]

For righty: Left hand SW grip, right hand continental to be prepared for slice, volley etc...

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Say a top player's groundies bounce about 5' high at the baseline.
A 6'10" person takes it around shoulder to upper chest high.
DominkaCibulkova takes it at the top of her head.
Can we agree they might have different grips?

OK, now you're there. Now you're saying a 6'10" player takes it high chest to shoulder - not seldom sees a ball there. And yes, they might have different grips, but it's not purely due to height. In the scenario above, the shorter, many times faster player, may step in a bit more and take it at the same height as the taller player who is back a step or two, that's all I'm saying.

[Lukhas]

Originally Posted by rkelley

I believe the most common combination is continental on the dominant hand and E to SW on the non-dominant hand.

My thoughts exactly.